It also started with this administration, literally these were the same people who engineered that coup and have had their hand in that cookie jar for years.
I mean the president of the United States had his son on an energy board there, Ol Obama was over there when he was still just a senator doing arms inspections and god knows what else, the bio labs were literally admitted that they existed by Nuland, and Trump's impeachment was literally because of the ukies.
Here's Secretary of State Victoria Nuland admitting live that Ukraine has "biological research facilities" and that they were concerned Russia would capture the research materials.
Here's when the World Health Organization advised officials in Ukraine to destroy any high-risk pathogens housed in "public health laboratories" in order to prevent their release or spill.
So why did Ukraine have high-risk pathogens to begin with? Why deny they have biolabs and then admit wait they do and we cannot let them fall into Russian hands? Russia had the largest biological weapons program in history, so why would they need "innocuous" research materials and if they're so innocuous why would their be a threat of a spill to population in the first place? Really activates the almonds there.
Every civilized country has biological labs, containing all sorts of pathogens. America has a plenty - hundreds, in every state, and with a while lot of incidents even during perfect peacetime: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/05/28/biolabs-pathogens-location-incidents/26587505/ - and it's not any better in other countries, actually it's usually much worse than that, with the Wuhan leak of course highly related (if it was even entirely just an accident). We in Poland have them too.
The latter (nuclear sites) including nuclear plants, which too became objects of attack and even battlefields - the already post-disaster infamous Chernobyl power plant included in that (Chernobyl was captured from an Ukrainian battalion protecting it on the first day of the failed Russian invasion from Belarus, it's been retaken and was damaged, looted and mined: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61685643 but without a new nuclear catastrophe), as well as the largest nuclear plant in Europe at Zaporizhzhia, the storming of which was the first official Wagner action in Ukraine (which came after years of Russia denying Wagner's very existence, complete with Prigozhin having used to sue people for reporting he's connected with Wagner) and which still remains on the frontline while housing a Russian garrison including an artillery firebase while online.
You can see how powerful Western propaganda is by how many people didn't know the truth about 2014, and how many still don't. I supported what I thought was the revolution, and thought Ukraine was the victim of Russia, until I learned the truth of the matter.
That's why an informed citizenry is so dangerous to the regime.
You can see how powerful Russian propaganda is by making you retarded to not challenge him on these lies while answering. But say this bullshit instead.
Pleae come back and tell me what you saw in the cities west of Donetsk city, after just 1 year of actual shelling of ethnic Russians (by Russia), as compared to these now 9 years of "the non stop shelling of ethnic Russians" by Ukraine. No, really please do, and be sincere about it.
Then you can compare these pictures to the effect of the repeated shelling campaigns against mostly ethnic Russian residents (and all Russian citizens) by Russia in Grozny. Because the cities west of Donetsk now actually look worse than Grozny ever did, including when it was the most destroyed city on Earth at one point - and they're not even done there yet.
You can see how powerful Russian propaganda is by making you retarded to not challenge him on these lies while answering. But say this bullshit instead.
Eh, it's close enough. At least he knows about the shelling, which most of the propgandized people in the West don't know.
Pleae come back and tell me what you saw in the cities west of Donetsk city, after just 1 year of actual shelling of ethnic Russians (by Russia), as compared to these now 9 years of "the non stop shelling of ethnic Russians" by Ukraine. No, really please do, and be sincere about it.
I think I had already answered this one. Obviously, open war is going to do more damage than intermittent shelling. If your petty puppet statelet had actually launched an all-out assault on the Donbas, which I was surprised to recently read Zelensky decided on in 2021, things would look very similar.
Probably worse, because the international media would be on the side of the people wrecking the place.
But there was no shelling. There was not even artillery, on both sides of the contact line, because the arty was withdrawn. For years the ceasefire-violations explosions were from occasional grenades or anti-tank guided missiles (aimed at supply trucks or bunkers rather than tanks, because tanks were also withdrawn) or mortars at most, directed at trenchlines and ouposts, and again I guess I need to repeat they were coming from BOTH sides of the conflict.
The extremely few civilians who died in recent years were mostly victims of old mines or enexploded munitions from 2014-2015, across both sides of the contact line, and originally belonging to both sides. Usually there were 0 (zero) civilians deaths from active hostilities during any given month from 2018 to 2022.
The "petty puppet statelet had actually launched an all-out assault on the Donbas" indeed, the DNR-LNR did just this on February 24 of last year. It was just went nowhere except only on Mariupol direction, and this only due to the attack by Russian regulars from the west (from Crimea) where there have been no fortifications whatsoever. Ukraine abandoned northern Luhansk because it was undefensible for the same reason (now suddenly surrounded from south, east and north, with any fortifications only on the contact line to the south). But just west of Donetsk - it's 1 year of continuous attacks where they only really captured the village of Pisky, which was just west across the Airport airstirp (and which they've been also shelling and attacking 2014-2017 despite the ceasefire). Even what remains of Mariinka is still contested (since 2015).
And the losses of DNR-LNR forces (who are now officially are regular Russian soldiers and police since the annexation) in 2022 have been just horrible for very little gain and never achieving any breakthrough west from the lines of 2015-2022 except in Mariupol where it was due to Russian Marines going from west and even north everntually. Most of them were untrained conscripts (from the total conscription of all males ages 18-60 announded a week before Feb 24) and given often WWII gear and weapons. LNR-DNR territories self-genocided their male population by turning them into cannon fodder. Only in the first few months more of them died than in all of 2014-2022, and that's to just their official statistics. And the territory was hugely underpopulated to begin with, most people had long left either to Ukrainian or Russian territories (or to Poland). At this rate it's soon going to end like Paraguay after its insane conflict, almost every able (and its very losely defined, like they've been since taking men over 60 too) man who didn't escape from Donetsk City will be first press ganged and then end up dead or maimed. Unless is captured, or deserts.
A friend of my friend once helped a Bosnian Serb deserter from the VRS to escape to Germany with his wife and kids. One day he was press ganged along with all men from his village until he deserted. They've first escaped to hide in Belgrade and then were taken by smugglers who were supposed to take them to Germany where his brother lived but left them in Poland.
Is it about the Soviet conquest of Ukraine and the resulting murder of millions by man-made famine and direct means, and the replacement of the killed off natives by Russian setters?
Back in the days of the Communist Soviet Union
He was so close and yet so far.
Long writing, and yet zero instances of "Holodomor" or even "starvation" generally beyond some sperging about a nuclear war.
(And Ukraine in 1991 was the third top nuclear power in the world, much greater than China, before the Americans paid them to either destroy or transfer to Russia all of their warheads and delivery systems.)
Show me (and show yourself) the effects of these "non stop shelling of ethnic Russians" since "2014".
Go and compare Russian occupied (since 2014, Donetsk city, which is just completely undamaged beyond the airport area, the area which was defended by Ukraine and destroyed by Russia 2014-2015), with the Ukrinian held suburbs and sattelite cities like Avdiivka just to the west, of Donetsk city center, and which are literally leveled by Russia's actual "non-stop shelling of ethnic Russians" (now look like WWI frontline cities in France, something like Verdun or Ypres, and it's not a hyperbole: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zf-wFksRJ_M).
And here's Bakhmut city, also in Donbas but up north of Donetsk city, after a "non-stop shelling" by Russia for only 8 months: https://youtube.com/watch?v=o5y-xOARsP0
This is how Donetsk aArport (western Donetsk city) looked like that when Russian artillery was done with it in January 2015 after 8 months: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HBz81b-vvIE
Now, Donetsk city center, under Ukrainian "non-stop shelling" (8 years of it): https://youtube.com/watch?v=CM6Bc3dJGLk (and yes, it's a Lenin statue, their object of worship, and the entire conflict began as the hundreds of Lenins were being toppled across Ukraine in February-April 2014 but in the east there were rallies organised against just that).
Btw, Poland isn't "CIA". The Americans were still in Hillary Clinton's Russia Reset policy at the time. (About which Poland was both pissed off and dismayed.)
So, eagirely awaiting what you think when you compare the "non-stop shelling of ethnic Russians" by Ukraine and by Russia. You can research yourself, including Russian own propaganda from Donetsk city, that is their own videos from all their Lenin rallies through the years and the huge military parades in the city center on occasions like May 9 every year, which were never ever shelled or otherwise attacked at all despite being just few kilometers from Ukrainian positions in places like the city airport and later the village of Pisky literally across the airstrip. Hopefully you will arrive at the realization "holy fuck, I was lied to so shamelessly and yet somehow I just believed it".
Now, Donetsk city center, under Ukrainian "non-stop shelling" (8 years of it): https://youtube.com/watch?v=CM6Bc3dJGLk (and yes, it's a Lenin statue, their object of worship, and the entire conflict began as the hundreds of Lenins were being toppled across Ukraine in February-April 2014 but in the east there were rallies organised against just that).
So they're destroying statues and erasing history like ISIS and the woke crowd in the West. How interesting.
So, eagirely awaiting what you think when you compare the "non-stop shelling of ethnic Russians" by Ukraine and by Russia. You can research yourself, including Russian own propaganda from Donetsk city, that is their own videos from all their Lenin rallies through the years and the huge military parades in the city center on occasions like May 9 every year, which were never ever shelled or otherwise attacked at all despite being just few kilometers from Ukrainian positions in places like the city airport and later the village of Pisky literally across the airstrip. Hopefully you will arrive at the realization "holy fuck, I was lied to so shamelessly and yet somehow I just believed it".
I regularly see videos of yet more shells landing in Donetsk. Recently, they hit a hospital, and you blamed "old, inaccurate Soviet artillery".
What if they had attacked a Victory Day parade? It would probably have made it unsustainable for Russia to continue to do nothing. But now the gloves are off and they're shelling civilians every week, apparently in an attempt to force Russia to attack the heavily fortified areas from which they are launching them, or look weak.
Ww also destroyed all Lenins in Poland and "erased history like ISIS". How interesting!
(We also destroyed all Hitler statues once, but one bust was recently placed in Warsaw as an experimental modern art piece. It can be viewed only through a peep hole in a wall and it's in the former Warsaw Ghetto.)
How many of these shells? Tens? Hundreds? Millions, like Russias's shelling of Donetsk suburbs and satttelite towns?
Recently they've been increasingly sending drones to target indicvidal Russian troops in the streets of central Donetsk with airdropped grenades. You can see how these streets are completely undamaged until a tiny blast mark appears next to some falling little green men.
It's ceasefire violations, and violations by both sides.
More importantly, the total of only 27 civilians died in all 2021, and most of them died from mines and unexploded munitions (ans now in 2023 there are almost infinitely more of mines and unexploded munitions in Donbas). Less than 1 civilian died on average in direct hostilities in any month since 2018, and usually none died in a given month. These violations were soldiers firing at each other from their opposite trenches.
If you have a sniper shot fired and missed at an enemy observation post (by either side), it's 1 violation. If you have a single magazine from an automatic grenade launcher emptied in under 1 minute, it's dozens of "explosions" that are reported.
It was a "frozen conflict", but with tens of thousands of troops sitting in their trenches and garrison towns on both sides of the contact line all the time.
These firefights were going both ways and just as well most could have been started or even exclusively conducted (no return fire) by the Russian side you absolute retard.
Any form of Finnish nationalistic attempt at a movement is instantly labeled as evil fascism, and most of us with these sentiments are in rural areas at the moment. Russia russifying Karelia for decades and post ww2 Germany being well, a fucking disgrace, sure makes things much harder because in the glory days of Finnish nationalism we had them to help. The only thing we can do as of right now is exactly nothing, just sit and wait for the welfare system to collapse even further while more and more people of the working class in bigger cities become unhappier as time goes by due to absurdly increasing costs of living, you'll often hear people in Helsinki nowadays complain about it, things are so fucked in Helsinki that it's cheaper to take a ferry and buy your groceries and alcohol in Estonia than to shop in Helsinki.
Chukna on the other hand is too busy shilling for Russia and complaining when some of us call them ''ryssä'' (through history the word became a derogatory word for Russians) because it hurts their feelings, a lot of the stuff he posts about to shit on Finland is actually factual, the problem is that does it for the wrong reasons and to just mindlessly shill for Russia
Shit I didn't know this Ukraine situation was ever put on the ballot. I must have missed it in the mail.
And I must have hallucinated the fact that our last election was so suspicious and contentious we are still talking about the massive event that happened when people protested it at the capitol because they believed it was stolen entirely.
The war started back in 2014, with the CIA backed coup d'etat and the non stop shelling of ethnic Russians.
It also started with this administration, literally these were the same people who engineered that coup and have had their hand in that cookie jar for years. I mean the president of the United States had his son on an energy board there, Ol Obama was over there when he was still just a senator doing arms inspections and god knows what else, the bio labs were literally admitted that they existed by Nuland, and Trump's impeachment was literally because of the ukies.
Oh boy. Tell me more about THE BIO LABS.
So you're a fan of bio labs in corrupt, unaccountable countries?
Worked great in Wuhan!
I mean, just tell me more about them bio labs. What, where, when? Elaborate, inform me, all the details, don't be shy.
Here you go friend, no need to be shy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRxi4QLQITY
Here's Secretary of State Victoria Nuland admitting live that Ukraine has "biological research facilities" and that they were concerned Russia would capture the research materials.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/exclusive-who-says-it-advised-ukraine-destroy-pathogens-health-labs-prevent-2022-03-11/
Here's when the World Health Organization advised officials in Ukraine to destroy any high-risk pathogens housed in "public health laboratories" in order to prevent their release or spill.
So why did Ukraine have high-risk pathogens to begin with? Why deny they have biolabs and then admit wait they do and we cannot let them fall into Russian hands? Russia had the largest biological weapons program in history, so why would they need "innocuous" research materials and if they're so innocuous why would their be a threat of a spill to population in the first place? Really activates the almonds there.
Every civilized country has biological labs, containing all sorts of pathogens. America has a plenty - hundreds, in every state, and with a while lot of incidents even during perfect peacetime: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/05/28/biolabs-pathogens-location-incidents/26587505/ - and it's not any better in other countries, actually it's usually much worse than that, with the Wuhan leak of course highly related (if it was even entirely just an accident). We in Poland have them too.
The reason for the spill concern is the same as with chemical facilities and storages of all kinds (https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/fears-that-the-war-in-east-of-ukraine-could-lead-to-deadly-chemical-disaster/4015860.article), and with nuclear sites of all kinds too.
The latter (nuclear sites) including nuclear plants, which too became objects of attack and even battlefields - the already post-disaster infamous Chernobyl power plant included in that (Chernobyl was captured from an Ukrainian battalion protecting it on the first day of the failed Russian invasion from Belarus, it's been retaken and was damaged, looted and mined: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61685643 but without a new nuclear catastrophe), as well as the largest nuclear plant in Europe at Zaporizhzhia, the storming of which was the first official Wagner action in Ukraine (which came after years of Russia denying Wagner's very existence, complete with Prigozhin having used to sue people for reporting he's connected with Wagner) and which still remains on the frontline while housing a Russian garrison including an artillery firebase while online.
You can see how powerful Western propaganda is by how many people didn't know the truth about 2014, and how many still don't. I supported what I thought was the revolution, and thought Ukraine was the victim of Russia, until I learned the truth of the matter.
That's why an informed citizenry is so dangerous to the regime.
You can see how powerful Russian propaganda is by making you retarded to not challenge him on these lies while answering. But say this bullshit instead.
I'll have this challenge for you: https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/16aTHG0Eeh/x/c/4TrI3waM3wC
Pleae come back and tell me what you saw in the cities west of Donetsk city, after just 1 year of actual shelling of ethnic Russians (by Russia), as compared to these now 9 years of "the non stop shelling of ethnic Russians" by Ukraine. No, really please do, and be sincere about it.
Then you can compare these pictures to the effect of the repeated shelling campaigns against mostly ethnic Russian residents (and all Russian citizens) by Russia in Grozny. Because the cities west of Donetsk now actually look worse than Grozny ever did, including when it was the most destroyed city on Earth at one point - and they're not even done there yet.
Eh, it's close enough. At least he knows about the shelling, which most of the propgandized people in the West don't know.
I think I had already answered this one. Obviously, open war is going to do more damage than intermittent shelling. If your petty puppet statelet had actually launched an all-out assault on the Donbas, which I was surprised to recently read Zelensky decided on in 2021, things would look very similar.
Probably worse, because the international media would be on the side of the people wrecking the place.
But there was no shelling. There was not even artillery, on both sides of the contact line, because the arty was withdrawn. For years the ceasefire-violations explosions were from occasional grenades or anti-tank guided missiles (aimed at supply trucks or bunkers rather than tanks, because tanks were also withdrawn) or mortars at most, directed at trenchlines and ouposts, and again I guess I need to repeat they were coming from BOTH sides of the conflict.
The extremely few civilians who died in recent years were mostly victims of old mines or enexploded munitions from 2014-2015, across both sides of the contact line, and originally belonging to both sides. Usually there were 0 (zero) civilians deaths from active hostilities during any given month from 2018 to 2022.
The "petty puppet statelet had actually launched an all-out assault on the Donbas" indeed, the DNR-LNR did just this on February 24 of last year. It was just went nowhere except only on Mariupol direction, and this only due to the attack by Russian regulars from the west (from Crimea) where there have been no fortifications whatsoever. Ukraine abandoned northern Luhansk because it was undefensible for the same reason (now suddenly surrounded from south, east and north, with any fortifications only on the contact line to the south). But just west of Donetsk - it's 1 year of continuous attacks where they only really captured the village of Pisky, which was just west across the Airport airstirp (and which they've been also shelling and attacking 2014-2017 despite the ceasefire). Even what remains of Mariinka is still contested (since 2015).
And the losses of DNR-LNR forces (who are now officially are regular Russian soldiers and police since the annexation) in 2022 have been just horrible for very little gain and never achieving any breakthrough west from the lines of 2015-2022 except in Mariupol where it was due to Russian Marines going from west and even north everntually. Most of them were untrained conscripts (from the total conscription of all males ages 18-60 announded a week before Feb 24) and given often WWII gear and weapons. LNR-DNR territories self-genocided their male population by turning them into cannon fodder. Only in the first few months more of them died than in all of 2014-2022, and that's to just their official statistics. And the territory was hugely underpopulated to begin with, most people had long left either to Ukrainian or Russian territories (or to Poland). At this rate it's soon going to end like Paraguay after its insane conflict, almost every able (and its very losely defined, like they've been since taking men over 60 too) man who didn't escape from Donetsk City will be first press ganged and then end up dead or maimed. Unless is captured, or deserts.
A friend of my friend once helped a Bosnian Serb deserter from the VRS to escape to Germany with his wife and kids. One day he was press ganged along with all men from his village until he deserted. They've first escaped to hide in Belgrade and then were taken by smugglers who were supposed to take them to Germany where his brother lived but left them in Poland.
Yep. Although relevant happenings go back even further.
https://original.antiwar.com/scott/2022/03/02/the-history-behind-the-russia-ukraine-war/
Is it about the Soviet conquest of Ukraine and the resulting murder of millions by man-made famine and direct means, and the replacement of the killed off natives by Russian setters?
He was so close and yet so far.
Long writing, and yet zero instances of "Holodomor" or even "starvation" generally beyond some sperging about a nuclear war.
(And Ukraine in 1991 was the third top nuclear power in the world, much greater than China, before the Americans paid them to either destroy or transfer to Russia all of their warheads and delivery systems.)
Show me (and show yourself) the effects of these "non stop shelling of ethnic Russians" since "2014".
Go and compare Russian occupied (since 2014, Donetsk city, which is just completely undamaged beyond the airport area, the area which was defended by Ukraine and destroyed by Russia 2014-2015), with the Ukrinian held suburbs and sattelite cities like Avdiivka just to the west, of Donetsk city center, and which are literally leveled by Russia's actual "non-stop shelling of ethnic Russians" (now look like WWI frontline cities in France, something like Verdun or Ypres, and it's not a hyperbole: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zf-wFksRJ_M).
I'll wait for you.
And if you can't find on your own then here's for example Marinka city, also just west of Donetsk city, as of few days ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/11cvn9e/drone_footage_of_fighting_in_destroyed_marinka/ It looks literally like Hiroshima after the nuclear attack, but that's only a conventional "non-stop shelling" for 12 months (by Russia).
And here's Bakhmut city, also in Donbas but up north of Donetsk city, after a "non-stop shelling" by Russia for only 8 months: https://youtube.com/watch?v=o5y-xOARsP0
This is how Donetsk aArport (western Donetsk city) looked like that when Russian artillery was done with it in January 2015 after 8 months: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HBz81b-vvIE
Now, Donetsk city center, under Ukrainian "non-stop shelling" (8 years of it): https://youtube.com/watch?v=CM6Bc3dJGLk (and yes, it's a Lenin statue, their object of worship, and the entire conflict began as the hundreds of Lenins were being toppled across Ukraine in February-April 2014 but in the east there were rallies organised against just that).
Btw, Poland isn't "CIA". The Americans were still in Hillary Clinton's Russia Reset policy at the time. (About which Poland was both pissed off and dismayed.)
So, eagirely awaiting what you think when you compare the "non-stop shelling of ethnic Russians" by Ukraine and by Russia. You can research yourself, including Russian own propaganda from Donetsk city, that is their own videos from all their Lenin rallies through the years and the huge military parades in the city center on occasions like May 9 every year, which were never ever shelled or otherwise attacked at all despite being just few kilometers from Ukrainian positions in places like the city airport and later the village of Pisky literally across the airstrip. Hopefully you will arrive at the realization "holy fuck, I was lied to so shamelessly and yet somehow I just believed it".
So they're destroying statues and erasing history like ISIS and the woke crowd in the West. How interesting.
I regularly see videos of yet more shells landing in Donetsk. Recently, they hit a hospital, and you blamed "old, inaccurate Soviet artillery".
What if they had attacked a Victory Day parade? It would probably have made it unsustainable for Russia to continue to do nothing. But now the gloves are off and they're shelling civilians every week, apparently in an attempt to force Russia to attack the heavily fortified areas from which they are launching them, or look weak.
Ww also destroyed all Lenins in Poland and "erased history like ISIS". How interesting!
(We also destroyed all Hitler statues once, but one bust was recently placed in Warsaw as an experimental modern art piece. It can be viewed only through a peep hole in a wall and it's in the former Warsaw Ghetto.)
How many of these shells? Tens? Hundreds? Millions, like Russias's shelling of Donetsk suburbs and satttelite towns?
Recently they've been increasingly sending drones to target indicvidal Russian troops in the streets of central Donetsk with airdropped grenades. You can see how these streets are completely undamaged until a tiny blast mark appears next to some falling little green men.
You know, call me crazy, but if this meant fucking anything, I think Russia would have mentioned this a year ago, don't you?
You have to be a complete retard to buy into it now.
It's ceasefire violations, and violations by both sides.
More importantly, the total of only 27 civilians died in all 2021, and most of them died from mines and unexploded munitions (ans now in 2023 there are almost infinitely more of mines and unexploded munitions in Donbas). Less than 1 civilian died on average in direct hostilities in any month since 2018, and usually none died in a given month. These violations were soldiers firing at each other from their opposite trenches.
If you have a sniper shot fired and missed at an enemy observation post (by either side), it's 1 violation. If you have a single magazine from an automatic grenade launcher emptied in under 1 minute, it's dozens of "explosions" that are reported.
It was a "frozen conflict", but with tens of thousands of troops sitting in their trenches and garrison towns on both sides of the contact line all the time.
Let's check the regime's narrative from ten years ago.
https://www.cc.com/video/8067fc/the-colbert-report-crisis-in-ukraine-gideon-rose
These firefights were going both ways and just as well most could have been started or even exclusively conducted (no return fire) by the Russian side you absolute retard.
My condolences to OP's parents for raising a retard.
Ok, so what do you want us here at KIA2 to do?
Better you will address this evidence to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Good luck.
I think we do that already, let me check....
HEY! Last time there was a vote in your country, did anyone here vote for a pedo,a pussy whipped guy or a complete bitch?
I don't think it was people on KiA2 who 'voted in' warmongers. Not that elections matter anyway.
lol, get a load of this faggot. He thinks voting still dictates who gets into office.
Why don't you work on fixing Finland first?
Any form of Finnish nationalistic attempt at a movement is instantly labeled as evil fascism, and most of us with these sentiments are in rural areas at the moment. Russia russifying Karelia for decades and post ww2 Germany being well, a fucking disgrace, sure makes things much harder because in the glory days of Finnish nationalism we had them to help. The only thing we can do as of right now is exactly nothing, just sit and wait for the welfare system to collapse even further while more and more people of the working class in bigger cities become unhappier as time goes by due to absurdly increasing costs of living, you'll often hear people in Helsinki nowadays complain about it, things are so fucked in Helsinki that it's cheaper to take a ferry and buy your groceries and alcohol in Estonia than to shop in Helsinki.
Chukna on the other hand is too busy shilling for Russia and complaining when some of us call them ''ryssä'' (through history the word became a derogatory word for Russians) because it hurts their feelings, a lot of the stuff he posts about to shit on Finland is actually factual, the problem is that does it for the wrong reasons and to just mindlessly shill for Russia
Shit I didn't know this Ukraine situation was ever put on the ballot. I must have missed it in the mail.
And I must have hallucinated the fact that our last election was so suspicious and contentious we are still talking about the massive event that happened when people protested it at the capitol because they believed it was stolen entirely.