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The evidence that Ukraine started war with Russia (and why the west & USA should stop supporting Ukraine). (media.communities.win)
posted 3 years ago by Chukna 3 years ago by Chukna +44 / -0
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– SupremeReader 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Show me (and show yourself) the effects of these "non stop shelling of ethnic Russians" since "2014".

Go and compare Russian occupied (since 2014, Donetsk city, which is just completely undamaged beyond the airport area, the area which was defended by Ukraine and destroyed by Russia 2014-2015), with the Ukrinian held suburbs and sattelite cities like Avdiivka just to the west, of Donetsk city center, and which are literally leveled by Russia's actual "non-stop shelling of ethnic Russians" (now look like WWI frontline cities in France, something like Verdun or Ypres, and it's not a hyperbole: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zf-wFksRJ_M).

I'll wait for you.

And if you can't find on your own then here's for example Marinka city, also just west of Donetsk city, as of few days ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/11cvn9e/drone_footage_of_fighting_in_destroyed_marinka/ It looks literally like Hiroshima after the nuclear attack, but that's only a conventional "non-stop shelling" for 12 months (by Russia).

And here's Bakhmut city, also in Donbas but up north of Donetsk city, after a "non-stop shelling" by Russia for only 8 months: https://youtube.com/watch?v=o5y-xOARsP0

This is how Donetsk aArport (western Donetsk city) looked like that when Russian artillery was done with it in January 2015 after 8 months: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HBz81b-vvIE

Now, Donetsk city center, under Ukrainian "non-stop shelling" (8 years of it): https://youtube.com/watch?v=CM6Bc3dJGLk (and yes, it's a Lenin statue, their object of worship, and the entire conflict began as the hundreds of Lenins were being toppled across Ukraine in February-April 2014 but in the east there were rallies organised against just that).

Btw, Poland isn't "CIA". The Americans were still in Hillary Clinton's Russia Reset policy at the time. (About which Poland was both pissed off and dismayed.)

So, eagirely awaiting what you think when you compare the "non-stop shelling of ethnic Russians" by Ukraine and by Russia. You can research yourself, including Russian own propaganda from Donetsk city, that is their own videos from all their Lenin rallies through the years and the huge military parades in the city center on occasions like May 9 every year, which were never ever shelled or otherwise attacked at all despite being just few kilometers from Ukrainian positions in places like the city airport and later the village of Pisky literally across the airstrip. Hopefully you will arrive at the realization "holy fuck, I was lied to so shamelessly and yet somehow I just believed it".

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Now, Donetsk city center, under Ukrainian "non-stop shelling" (8 years of it): https://youtube.com/watch?v=CM6Bc3dJGLk (and yes, it's a Lenin statue, their object of worship, and the entire conflict began as the hundreds of Lenins were being toppled across Ukraine in February-April 2014 but in the east there were rallies organised against just that).

So they're destroying statues and erasing history like ISIS and the woke crowd in the West. How interesting.

So, eagirely awaiting what you think when you compare the "non-stop shelling of ethnic Russians" by Ukraine and by Russia. You can research yourself, including Russian own propaganda from Donetsk city, that is their own videos from all their Lenin rallies through the years and the huge military parades in the city center on occasions like May 9 every year, which were never ever shelled or otherwise attacked at all despite being just few kilometers from Ukrainian positions in places like the city airport and later the village of Pisky literally across the airstrip. Hopefully you will arrive at the realization "holy fuck, I was lied to so shamelessly and yet somehow I just believed it".

I regularly see videos of yet more shells landing in Donetsk. Recently, they hit a hospital, and you blamed "old, inaccurate Soviet artillery".

What if they had attacked a Victory Day parade? It would probably have made it unsustainable for Russia to continue to do nothing. But now the gloves are off and they're shelling civilians every week, apparently in an attempt to force Russia to attack the heavily fortified areas from which they are launching them, or look weak.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Ww also destroyed all Lenins in Poland and "erased history like ISIS". How interesting!

(We also destroyed all Hitler statues once, but one bust was recently placed in Warsaw as an experimental modern art piece. It can be viewed only through a peep hole in a wall and it's in the former Warsaw Ghetto.)

How many of these shells? Tens? Hundreds? Millions, like Russias's shelling of Donetsk suburbs and satttelite towns?

Recently they've been increasingly sending drones to target indicvidal Russian troops in the streets of central Donetsk with airdropped grenades. You can see how these streets are completely undamaged until a tiny blast mark appears next to some falling little green men.

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