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posted 2 years ago by ThatsAlright 2 years ago by ThatsAlright +18 / -0
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– SoctaticMethod1 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Ok it's a day ending in y, what are the French protesting about this time? Legitimate or they just felt like it?

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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 2 years ago +6 / -1

It's stupid. The government wants to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64, which is still way lower than it's in northern European countries.

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– SoctaticMethod1 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

It's in line with the French, I appreciate the attitude of 'you try to take my benefits, time light a police car on fire attitude though, really slows down government power grabs..

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 19 points 2 years ago +19 / -0

It may not work, but it has a much better chance of working than LARPing on the internet about the "ammo box" and "1776 II."

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– yvaN_ehT_nioJ 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Or even more cringe, the people calling for some sort of Constitutional convention.

>Government ignores a piece of paper

"Let's change the words on the piece of paper! That'll get the government to stop ignoring it!"

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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

French people are protected by their government, but they're not protected from it. Even that the government gets to pick their retirement age is tyranny.

Leftists often argue that this is the better way, because it seems like the people are privileged. Until the government decides to take those privileges away.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

Pretty sure they'd be doing a "1789 II" or "1871 II" anyways.

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– GeneralBoobs 9 points 2 years ago +10 / -1

Their bloated entitlements system is destroying their country and their politicians are more than happy to help it along, protesting is not going to solve a damn thing.

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– ArtemisFoul 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Nothing's going to solve a damn thing, the system is simply fucked, and it's the same everywhere in Europe and north America. The time to fix this was at least 50 years ago, and the way to fix it would involve minecrafting everyone involved in the creation of this insane scam.

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– send_it 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I can think of a bunch of other things which are destroying their country more and harder than their retirement age...

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– Kienan 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

It's stupid. The government wants to...

Good, they should protest.

...raise the retirement age from 62 to 64, which is still way lower than it's in northern European countries.

Yeah, but it won't be if they keep raising it.

The government should always be protested when they try to make shit worse for their people. Even if it looks silly compared to other countries. No, hands off, gubmint.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah, but it won't be if they keep raising it.

And they will.

Also, I thought to myself: did we gain anything because of our higher retirement age? No. Our governments just waste hundreds of billions more on things like truly useless climate subsidies.

The government should always be protested when they try to make shit worse for their people. Even if it looks silly compared to other countries. No, hands off, gubmint.

Huh, that's a good attitude.

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– Gemmaugr 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

https://www.euractiv.com/section/social-europe-jobs/news/sweden-considers-raising-retirement-age-to-75/

Not implemented yet, but it is a white paper and EU future policy (see Further Reading under the article), so Sweden is just "ahead of the game" as usual.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Not yet? It's from 2013 though. If they haven't pushed it through by now, I doubt anything will come of it.

That said, I do think you're correct in thinking that they will try to force people to work until they drop dead.

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– Gemmaugr 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

They've actually just started changing it. https://www.expressen.se/ekonomi/pension/alla-pensionsnyheter-och-hur-du-paverkas/

"Raised retirement age in three steps

In 2020

The lowest age to take public pension is increased from 61 to 62 years. This means that you who were born in 1958 or earlier can retire at 61, but if you were born in 1959 or 1960 you can take a retirement at the earliest at the age of 62.

At the same time, the LAS age is increased from 67 to 68 years. This means that you who were born in 1953 or 1954 have the right to stay at work until you are 68 years old.

In 2023

The lowest age to take public pension is increased from 62 to 63 years. This means that you who were born in 1961 or 1962 can retire at the earliest at 63.

At the same time, the LAS age is increased from 68 to 69 years. This means that you who were born in 1955 or later have the right to stay at work until you are 69 years old.

The lowest age for guarantee pension is increased from 65 to 66 years. This means that you who were born in 1958 or 1959 can get your guarantee pension at the earliest at the age of 66.

The 65-year limits in the security systems are increased to 66 years, which means that you can receive, for example, health insurance and a-cash one year longer.

In 2026

The lowest age to take public pension is increased from 63 to 64 years. This means that you who were born in 1963 or later at the earliest, you can withdraw your pension at the age of 64.

Guarantee pension is linked to a new target age, which is expected to mean an increase to 67 years. LAS and other pension -related ages - will also be linked to the target age. This means that for those born in 1960 or later, the age for guarantee pension and more may be higher than 66 years.

However, an exception is if you have worked for 44 years or more, then you should be able to get a guarantee pension already at 65 years."

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