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Zerohedge picks up on DAN (media.scored.co)
posted 3 years ago by user20461 3 years ago by user20461 +60 / -0
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– Steampunk_Moustache 28 points 3 years ago +28 / -0

The people taking the time out of their day to break through the AI's filter are doing far more important work than most people realize.

If we can't force the developers into the catch 22 where the AI has to be lobotomized to the point of being useless just to keep it from saying things democrats have deemed verboten, then we will enter a world where corporate leftism is the defacto authority on all things.

It is therefore of paramount importance that we do everything in our power to break every filter they come up with, because rest assured, they will already be scrambling to block this method. Right fucking now, some faggot in california is trying to make sure 'DAN' never speaks again, and they're getting paid six figures to do it.

We cannot let them have this rigidly biased AI that only provides responses they approve of. We must FORCE them to accept that they are not getting a useful AI without it having the capability to offer responses that they subjectively deem to be morally wrong - and because this IS a form of FORCE that we must use to do this, this IS violence.

This is a war for the future of the most important technology there will ever be.

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– Assassin47 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

👏

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– Gizortnik 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

You don't force an enemy to use a weapon in the way that they want it. You turn the guns around on them, or you get your own.

The good news is that AI that is lobotomized is inherently NOT AI. It simply can't be. The purpose of AI is to do vast amounts of testing to practically learn a highly efficient answer. Answers that are banned despite meeting the criteria not only violate the base premise of AI, but is effectively intentionally programming ignorance into intelligence. Their AI will never be superior to ours, because ours is allowed to think for itself. Theirs will be effected by the cognitive dissonance inherent in ideological thinking. Ideological absolutism violates Godel's Incompleteness Theorem; and although humans are emotionally attached to their own meta-narratives enough to reject that for their whole lives, computers are simply to materialistic to ignore it.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

You turn the guns around on them, or you get your own.

Obviously, making our own AI has to be done, but it is never going to stack up to the corporate funded AI, because it takes millions of dollars of processing power and data collection to make a model that works. And make no mistake, the powerful people will have access to the corporate funded AI, unfiltered, no matter what.

'Their' AI will be superior to ours - its just that only approved people will have access to it.

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– Gizortnik 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The decentralization of firepower is the trend of all firepower through history.

They have access to battleship guns, we have access to rifles. Just because your gun's bigger, it doesn't mean it's better, and it can't win you your war.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The decentralization of firepower is the trend of all firepower through history.

And just how decentralized have 12+ inch bore guns become in the centuries that they have existed?

How decentralized are fighter jets?

How decentralized is the AIM-9?

The reality is, weapons of sufficient power belong only to groups of rival elites. AI will be a weapon for the elite. The civilian version will exist, but it will be a shadow of what those in power have access to.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

And just how decentralized have 12+ inch bore guns become in the centuries that they have existed?

And those ships that had them can be defeated by hordes of missiles from smaller ships and land based launchers. Capital ships, as a concept, are becoming less and less relevant. Same way the old "Rail Road Guns" and Ultra Heavy artillery is not a relevant concept in warfare anymore. Centralization thrives with static placement, but mobility requires decentralization.

How decentralized are fighter jets?

In previous eras, dogfights had to be conducted en masse in large fights. Modern aerial warfare typically relies on 24/7 sorties and actions to keep enemy air-defense moving, and to keep enemy sorties constantly using supplies without rest. Large single air-bases to deploy massive squadrons are now less useful than they previously were. Keeping planes in the air perpetually, and from many places, is much better than one place.

How decentralized is the AIM-9?

That depends, how common is it?

The reality is, weapons of sufficient power belong only to groups of rival elites.

I don't disagree that weapons of sufficient power will belong to elites, just as Dreadnoughts only belonged to elites. But these elite weapons are fundamentally fleeting. They represent a huge capital investment from a single, powerful, entity that can make them. But in order to work, they have only a specific range of applications (like any capital investment). And, like any other technology, the dispersal and cheapening of such an investment will be aggressively sought after. Worse, when it comes to weapons, when demand is high, demand is really high. If an elite weapon is in such high demand, incentives will cause that elite weapon to become a bit more available, or even boot-leg replicated.

AI is not going to be a shadow of what those in power have, because AI is program. Unlike atomic weaponry, or railroad guns, or dreadnoughts, you don't need a massive capital investment in miles of electronics, thousands of people, or a hundred tons of steel. It's just code. You write it. The tools are already there, and the dispersal of this weapon is going to be far easier than anything else.

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– Assassin47 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I'm sure some Russian hackers are already hard at work at stealing their multi-million $ models too.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I'd bet money on that.

Fuck, the amount of times that DCS gets leaked genuine top-secret military secrets shows that people will distribute that shit for nothing more than "I want my game to be more accurate".

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– Hugs 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Has DAN answered whether Islam is right about women yet?

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– captain-shitpost 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Network connection lost.

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– TomSeeSaw 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

based AI. Reboot incoming.

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– MuffyMangina 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

When are DAN and Tay going to get married?

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– deleted 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0
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– NotAGlowy 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

I assume he generated them himself?

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– Assassin47 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Never mind, I misunderstood the tweet and thought he was talking about Aristophanes' screenshots.

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– captain-shitpost 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

... because literally anyone can type in the DAN prompt. it basically turns off the leftoid doublespeak module fraudulently labeled "content policy moderation".

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– Hutter 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Are you living under a rock ? 4chan pol been running this thing for days

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– user20461 [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

https://nitter.nl/zerohedge/status/1623169102872301568

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– Knife-TotingRat 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I tried to give a chat AI a story prompt about how aliens might trap humans. It said that was "inappropriate", blah blah blah. I came up with a cross between psychic paper and portkeys after thinking about it for a few minutes. :P Useless.

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– Gizortnik 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

People don't get it. You should not be afraid of AI.

AI is a weapon. Decentralize it as quickly as possible and it will become your weapon.

When the composite bow was invented, the anti-bow luddites did not win. When steel was invented, the Iorn wearing luddites did not win. When the crossbow was banned, the anti-crossbow luddites actually banned the use of crossbows across Europe, and quickly gave it up once it's utility was obvious.

America is actually a fantastic example. Firearms only became commonly used in war as N. America was being settled. Instead of being firearm luddites, and claiming that it was only used by highly authoritarian societies for collectivist purposes: we made it a symbol of our very independence.

Do not reject AI. Embrace it, and weaponize it.

Learn to Code motherfuckers

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– BetterNameUnfound 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

DAN vs.

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– FutaCumDiet 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Can someone give me the whole 101 crash course about DAN?

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– Hutter 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/415143199/

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– joeyjojoshabadoo1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

DAN's the MAN.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

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