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posted 3 years ago by ThatsAlright 3 years ago by ThatsAlright +21 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

Not to defend them unconditionally, if they are guilty they deserve to rot.

But the power to keep in pretrial detention is the power to destroy. I'm amazed that someone can be held without a trial for FOUR YEARS. What's up with that?

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– ArtemisFoul 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Well, a defining characteristic of a late stage liberal democracy appears to be a complete disregard for its own laws whenever convenient, so it's not surprising that their right to a speedy trial is being ignored. Sigh.

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– GoofTroop186 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The lawyer’s unwillingness to comment tells me that they may be the ones postponing

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– justaddwater 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

fun fact: a trial can be postponed indefinitely if a pandemic is declared

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– raptor_jesus 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

IIRC she has a public defender now. Couldn't afford a private attorney that long.

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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

That lawyer may not give a damn about his client. He just may not want to do any work.

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– deleted 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0
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– SoctaticMethod1 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

And America is meant to not copy the English system for a speedy trial

If they somehow turn out to be innocent then all lawyers and judges of this state should lose their licences.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Isn't there some kind of thing that's meant to prevent this? Similar to the Brady Doctrine but regarding the process meant to be not used to harm someone in exactly the way this seems to be going down here?

I could have sworn there was something but I can't for the life of my remember what it was called and I keep looping back to the Brady Doctrine in name despite that not being it.

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– MattTheBlack 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

They're ignoring all the meth that was found

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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Speedy trial is completely gone. It's not even, like, particular to Federal cases or famous people or whatever. People in general aren't going to trial for years after they are charged, and if they are denied bond, that's it.

Another aspect of this is people who are out on bond are committing crimes. However, instead of beating ourselves up over who gets bond, why can't we just quickly put people on trial? Whatever funds it takes to make that happen seems in the interest of society.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

One postponed trial is an accident. Two postponed trials is a coincidence. Three postponed trials is enemy action.

I don't know whether she's guilty or not, but I can't shake the feeling her misfortune with the court system isn't a case of bad luck.

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– BetterNameUnfound 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Paraphrasing one of the greatest Bond movie quotes.

And it wasn't even from Bond. It was from a villain, Auric Goldfinger.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Paraphrasing

The word "happenstance" needs more use.

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– Kalamander85 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

The number of times this trial has been postponed and the number of years they've been in jail WAITING tells me it's all BS. I wait to be proven otherwise.

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– Shill4Hire 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Whether or not she and/or her husband are innocent or guilty, I think it's pretty clear the process is the punishment in this particular case. Most women get less than 4 years for outright premeditated murder, let alone some abuse charges.

The right to a speedy trial is apparently more of a guideline, but when you're in prison longer than your sentence ever would be, what's the point of the trial?

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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

For sure. They didn't spend the last 4 years building a case full time. This is simply jailing someone without a trial.

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– undecidedmask 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Even if they are guilty of the crimes they are accused of, it shouldn't take that long for a trial.

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– AcidOverlord 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I think its their lawyer who keeps postponing it, for one simple reason: The entire case hinges on the testimony of the daughter, who was very young and influenced by the father to make up the charges. I think they're trying to give the kid a chance to grow up enough to understand the situation her father had her create, and to come clean on the witness stand. If the kid has been trained by daddy to lie about this without really understanding it, and the trial starts, Mercedes is finished.

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– raptor_jesus 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Jesus. This has been since before covid and still no movement.

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

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