Half kidding but I still refuse to believe that some people don't have an internal monologue. Maybe they don't understand the question? Like wtf they just go around without a single thought crossing their mind??
If it sounds impossible, consider that this is how people who were born deaf operate. They've never heard speech, so they have no internal monologue. They have to think in abstract concepts and feelings, perhaps in visualized words at best. It's impossible for them to "think things through" without first simplifying them to the point where they can be understood without the use of complex language.
This, I believe, is why so many born deafs are completely insane. It must be maddening to be unable to think on the level that others are, and not only that, but to be painfully aware of this deficit. I can't even imagine.
Somewhat relating to the inner monologue bit, others here can play music in their head, right? 👀
I don't mean with any actual humming or sounds being made in accompaniment, just thinking through an entire piece of music without any aiding stimuli or actions.
There’s also a correlation between IQ, suggestibility, and attention span. That’s why certain shows are “staccato” based, very short snippets of information with a small pause for laugh track or clapping then before the information can actually sink in there is a new unrelated blast followed by pause and laughter/clapping
Why have standards? It's just frustrating everyone. Progressives: our reading scores are low because systemic racism. Conservatives: our reading scores are low because some parents don't read to their kids. Actual Truth: you can accurately estimate what reading score your school district will have based solely on demographics and completely independent of funding or teaching method, so stop hitting your head against a fucking wall.
Parental involvement does make some difference I would think. I get the demographic thing but I’m not going to look at an Asian student and assume they are smart without seeing their work or look at a black student and assume they can’t do the work. Granted more often then not the Asian students will perform better academically than black students according to the data but I still say excusing poor performance is a bad thing. Difference between that and someone who does honestly try but can’t do the work.
It's a good idea to push the lowest intelligence people as much as possible if you have to live in a mixed race society. As you know from The Bell Curve, there are low and high scores among all groups, while the median differs. A proper education is like an RPG buff that can add +X% "effective intelligence" to students in all groups. There are diminishing returns for lower IQs, but still some effect in aggregate - even among the stupids. What you're trying to avoid in any society is the really really low IQs tearing shit down and taking others with them. At least trying to teach comprehension, skills, and correct behavior reduces the likelihood of that.
I would prefer more individualized learning. There's no more point in measuring reading score across different demographics groups than there is measuring IQ across the whole nation.
That's an interesting indicator. I know someone who is really smart, but grew up in a bad family. If given no thought, the hypothetical is easy and quick to think about, but if given a thought it's as if the culture stops him from thinking straight.
Sort of true, math is basically an IQ test.
Also a slightly older greentext but its quite insightful. There is a longer version somewhere that has more goodies.
For the ultimate longer version, read The Bell Curve. I consider the publication date of that book the end of modern science.
Half kidding but I still refuse to believe that some people don't have an internal monologue. Maybe they don't understand the question? Like wtf they just go around without a single thought crossing their mind??
If it sounds impossible, consider that this is how people who were born deaf operate. They've never heard speech, so they have no internal monologue. They have to think in abstract concepts and feelings, perhaps in visualized words at best. It's impossible for them to "think things through" without first simplifying them to the point where they can be understood without the use of complex language.
This, I believe, is why so many born deafs are completely insane. It must be maddening to be unable to think on the level that others are, and not only that, but to be painfully aware of this deficit. I can't even imagine.
Yeah that's a good example. Still I'd like to talk to one of these people some day lol
Somewhat relating to the inner monologue bit, others here can play music in their head, right? 👀
I don't mean with any actual humming or sounds being made in accompaniment, just thinking through an entire piece of music without any aiding stimuli or actions.
There’s also a correlation between IQ, suggestibility, and attention span. That’s why certain shows are “staccato” based, very short snippets of information with a small pause for laugh track or clapping then before the information can actually sink in there is a new unrelated blast followed by pause and laughter/clapping
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That was, like, every comedy show back in the day.
I guess people's IQs were lower cuz leaded gas?
Still if the IQ is lower not holding them to basic standards is even worse.
Why have standards? It's just frustrating everyone. Progressives: our reading scores are low because systemic racism. Conservatives: our reading scores are low because some parents don't read to their kids. Actual Truth: you can accurately estimate what reading score your school district will have based solely on demographics and completely independent of funding or teaching method, so stop hitting your head against a fucking wall.
Parental involvement does make some difference I would think. I get the demographic thing but I’m not going to look at an Asian student and assume they are smart without seeing their work or look at a black student and assume they can’t do the work. Granted more often then not the Asian students will perform better academically than black students according to the data but I still say excusing poor performance is a bad thing. Difference between that and someone who does honestly try but can’t do the work.
Obviously individual students will differ from the norm, but when you look at an entire school district the law of large numbers dominates.
It's a good idea to push the lowest intelligence people as much as possible if you have to live in a mixed race society. As you know from The Bell Curve, there are low and high scores among all groups, while the median differs. A proper education is like an RPG buff that can add +X% "effective intelligence" to students in all groups. There are diminishing returns for lower IQs, but still some effect in aggregate - even among the stupids. What you're trying to avoid in any society is the really really low IQs tearing shit down and taking others with them. At least trying to teach comprehension, skills, and correct behavior reduces the likelihood of that.
I would prefer more individualized learning. There's no more point in measuring reading score across different demographics groups than there is measuring IQ across the whole nation.
Same people who have no internal monologue?
That's an interesting indicator. I know someone who is really smart, but grew up in a bad family. If given no thought, the hypothetical is easy and quick to think about, but if given a thought it's as if the culture stops him from thinking straight.