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I wonder where do people here place on this political compass test. (sapplyvalues.github.io)
posted 3 years ago by onetruephilosoraptor 3 years ago by onetruephilosoraptor +2 / -0
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– TentElephant 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Political compass tests are themselves propaganda and the questions often reveal the author to be a progressive moron. For example, the question about land as a commodity is incoherent as land is inherently non-fungible and thus cannot be a commodity. There are also many questions that are simply matters of territorialization, which makes them context dependent on the ruling elite.

1, 3 with a great many nuetral answers because the questions are wrong.

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– acp_k2win 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Half of the questions show biased accepting of a liberal premise. Even the scoring is biased with conservative begin shown as negative.

Gender is a social construct, not a natural state of affairs.

Assumes that "gender" actually exists as a separate category from sex.

Homosexuality is against my values.

Assumes the existence of "sexuality".

7,0,-8

Much less authoritarian than I would think but also answered some broken questions as neutral.

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– APDSmith 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Half of the questions show biased accepting of a liberal premise

That's how "liberals" win, though, is it not?

They can't win the actual debate so the only way that they can get anywhere is to rig the debate ahead of time, right down to the level of programming it into the language.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Racist.

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– APDSmith 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

But of course, I am white...

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Much less authoritarian than I would think

I think this quiz does that well: separating authoritarianism from conservatism.

Other compasses put you as "authoritarian" if you say that homosexuality goes against your values.

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– Smith1980 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Right leaning with libertarian tendencies

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– Gemmaugr 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Can't use it. It uses google tech and analytics so I actively pre-block it.

I can guess that I'd place Very Libertarian, and slightly to the left though.

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– Galean 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

4, -4 So a little less Libertarian then you and the same on the right axes

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I also answered keeping ESG In mind when It comes to questions about business.

I can't answer like we have a full free market system because we really have a globalist corporatist system.

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– Galean 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I did the same about business.

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– TheModernDaVinci 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

5, -3.6

So about the same place I have always been on the Left-Right axis, but a pretty significant turn toward the Liberty side axis since the last time I took one of these a few years ago.

Huh, I wonder if there was something that happened that moved me toward Liberty over Authority over the last few years...

EDIT: That said, I do agree that many of the questions were pretty biased. I have also had a distaste of the 4-way axis compass and have come to value the Eight Values axis more. Since it gives more nuance on the questions and more ways to move instead of just "Right-Left, Liberty-Authority". For that one, my results are 66% "Market"-leaning, 75% "Patriot"-leaning, 53% "Liberty"-leaning, and 54% "Tradition"-leaning. It claims the closest political ideology to that is Neo-Liberalism, which I would contest. Maybe back in the 80's, and I do indeed agree with its proponents like Reagan, Hayek, and Mises. But with what it has come to mean, I still would rather call myself a Populist Libertarian, since that is essentially what Trump and a lot of the modern dissident movement are.

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– LGBTQIAIDS 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I went through the Eight Values one around two years ago.

I think that this one isn't ideal either. For instance, I think that the terms Progress/Tradition should be replaced by a less biased Modern/Traditional. Modernism isn't 'Progress' when viewed without the lens of someone who is at least modernity-leaning to begin with: there is nothing incongruent about the belief that modernism begets regression.

55% Market, 45% Equality (Centrist)

89.4% Nation, 10.6% World (Nationalist)

13.9% Authority, 86.1% Authority (Authoritarian)

82.4% Tradition, 17.6% Progress (Very Traditional)

Closest Ideology: Fascism (Shock! Horror!)

Note that I don't even think that Fascism actually is 'Far-Right' due to its origins in Marxist revisionism and its originators largely being fed-up anarchists, socialists and Marxists, and so I too object to the 'matched ideology'.

I haven't yet found one of these 'compasses' that I'm fully content with. I especially am not fond of questions in which the answer is situational. My answer for certain questions depends on where I'm picturing myself: am I answering as though I'm in my ideal-typical perfect society... or am I answering as though I'm in the pseudo-society of reality? I, for example, do not support government surveillance in any society in which it would clearly be used against my co-ideologists, but support it absolutely in any society in which it would be clearly used against those whose views with I am in antagonism. Thus a 'Strongly Disagree' can become a 'Strongly Agree' based on little more than a change in the surrounding milieu.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– SR388-SAX 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I reject the test because I don't believe that "Progressive" is the opposite of "Conservative".

"Progressive" is a weird religion that demands constant change to reinvent human beings, destabilize society, and eventually usher in the communist utopian revolution.

Thinking that the state of the system could be improved doesn't mean that I want to have anything to do with fucking communists.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I got this https://ibb.co/s6bMxkX

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– Kaarous 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

+7, -4, -10.

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– fetr12 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

+3.67, -1, -4.37

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– Gemmaugr 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

This one works, but I couldn't even do 20 questions because the simple "YES, yes, maybe, no, NO", doesn't work for the sort of questions they've formulated. It needs to be pared down even more. Getting to the root of it, and not ask questions that are contextual to another opinon.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

2.33, -1.33, -7.5

I found a lot of the questions to be quite bad.

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– LGBTQIAIDS 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Left-Right: 2

Auth-Lib: 8

Prog-Con: -9.37

Note that I am answering this as though in the ideal and not present society (for instance, I tend towards opposing authoritarian measures under the current system [which led to Covidiocy and so forth] whereas I strongly support them in the ideal society in which the likes of Biden and Trudeau simply do not exist to be capable of misusing them).

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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