The official budget for this film is $350 million, but there's no way that's accurate. James Cameron is on record saying it needs to make $2 billion to break even. Even factoring an estimated $200 million marketing campaign, the film's true production budget is probably in the range of $700-800 million.
For what its worth, I saw that further clarified that the "$2B to break even" state was apparently including some of the production cost of the 3rd movie since some assets are going to be reused.
Either way, this does not bode well if the opening weekend is underperforming. He better make damn sure there is good word of mouth, because that has been the make or break for ever movie. Marvel movies get a good opening, then bad word of mouth kills following weekends. Top Gun had an ok opening, then killed it for months afterword due to good word of mouth.
Fair enough. And I will say that I have been hearing good word of mouth going around for it about how "Its a good, fun, dumb, popcorn movie", so it may well sell based on that alone.
Just pointing out that its a not great start, and in the past few years word of mouth has been the make or break of movies.
It's not. I watched it last night (Pirated, no way am I shilling out money for Hollyweird), and it's crap. For al ltheir claims of diversity and shit, I didn't see one coloured face among the bad guys, there was a woman general but everyone else was either white or blue, and the blue folk were endlessly howling or shouting and were considered holier than thou. Even the storyline just just the sound of Cameron huffing his own farts (The movie equivalent of a Hideo Kojima game tbh)
That's a good analysis, but I don't think it's comparable to Titanic. I think Titanic grossed more because of viral popularity. I remember when Titanic came out, and people really loved that move.
I don't entirely know why they loved that movie. I assume that it may have been marketed towards men, but then received viral support among women who thought Brad Pitt was hot.
"We spent 2 Billion dollars. Now we just have to make all of that back, plus 30%"
Of all the employers I've worked for, the insane amount of work it takes to make over $2 Billion is fucking astronomical. You realize that you'll have battalions of people making hundred-thousand dollar revenue creations everyday, right? Like, each person, not the whole Battalion. This isn't High Frequency Trading, this is a fucking movie.
Financiers need to be standing up and saying: "A movie that costs a hundred million dollars? Are you fucking retarded? I'm not investing in that." The problem is that a lot of those financiers are just globalists looking to push propaganda, so they don't care that it's a massive loss.
I went to see the first one in theater for the experience because it was so over-the-top gorgeous. Politics aside, it was impressive.
The plot was a bit eye-rolling and was stretching the limit of the "rooting for the underdog" effect.
I'm not watching the sequel to be hammered over the head with "humans bad, White People Bad, on a moon".
If it turns-out reviews from actual normal people show it's not hamfisted BS as the leaks say, I might watch it at home.
But there's plenty of content, more than a life's worth, whose authors aren't devoted to injecting their disdain or hate against my people in the media, so I watch that instead.
Nice touch from the author
The official budget for this film is $350 million, but there's no way that's accurate. James Cameron is on record saying it needs to make $2 billion to break even. Even factoring an estimated $200 million marketing campaign, the film's true production budget is probably in the range of $700-800 million.
For what its worth, I saw that further clarified that the "$2B to break even" state was apparently including some of the production cost of the 3rd movie since some assets are going to be reused.
Either way, this does not bode well if the opening weekend is underperforming. He better make damn sure there is good word of mouth, because that has been the make or break for ever movie. Marvel movies get a good opening, then bad word of mouth kills following weekends. Top Gun had an ok opening, then killed it for months afterword due to good word of mouth.
Fair enough. And I will say that I have been hearing good word of mouth going around for it about how "Its a good, fun, dumb, popcorn movie", so it may well sell based on that alone.
Just pointing out that its a not great start, and in the past few years word of mouth has been the make or break of movies.
It's not. I watched it last night (Pirated, no way am I shilling out money for Hollyweird), and it's crap. For al ltheir claims of diversity and shit, I didn't see one coloured face among the bad guys, there was a woman general but everyone else was either white or blue, and the blue folk were endlessly howling or shouting and were considered holier than thou. Even the storyline just just the sound of Cameron huffing his own farts (The movie equivalent of a Hideo Kojima game tbh)
Another Wakanda?
That's a good analysis, but I don't think it's comparable to Titanic. I think Titanic grossed more because of viral popularity. I remember when Titanic came out, and people really loved that move.
I don't entirely know why they loved that movie. I assume that it may have been marketed towards men, but then received viral support among women who thought Brad Pitt was hot.
700million. I believe marketing cost as much as production.
I can't even understand this logic.
"We spent 2 Billion dollars. Now we just have to make all of that back, plus 30%"
Of all the employers I've worked for, the insane amount of work it takes to make over $2 Billion is fucking astronomical. You realize that you'll have battalions of people making hundred-thousand dollar revenue creations everyday, right? Like, each person, not the whole Battalion. This isn't High Frequency Trading, this is a fucking movie.
Financiers need to be standing up and saying: "A movie that costs a hundred million dollars? Are you fucking retarded? I'm not investing in that." The problem is that a lot of those financiers are just globalists looking to push propaganda, so they don't care that it's a massive loss.
And the crowd went mild! 😐
I went to see the first one in theater for the experience because it was so over-the-top gorgeous. Politics aside, it was impressive.
The plot was a bit eye-rolling and was stretching the limit of the "rooting for the underdog" effect.
I'm not watching the sequel to be hammered over the head with "humans bad, White People Bad, on a moon".
If it turns-out reviews from actual normal people show it's not hamfisted BS as the leaks say, I might watch it at home.
But there's plenty of content, more than a life's worth, whose authors aren't devoted to injecting their disdain or hate against my people in the media, so I watch that instead.
You’d need to pay me to watch this. And I’d still rather be at my day job than sitting through this.
May it drown.
I'm not sitting in a cinema with chip munching, phone scrolling, comment making dumb ass plebs for 3 hours