I'm a Libertarian, so I don't mind the GOP being destroyed, but attacks on the MAGA movement are attacks on good allies.
What the GOP and their allied Democrats are doing is trying to convince people that Jeb Bush & Mitt Romneny style Republicans are the only way to move forward and properly "moderate" our "crazy opinions" into being "more electable".
Because remember: opposing anti-white hatred, opposing baby-murder, and wanting less taxes and war are """crazy opinions""" that aren't electable.
Bullshit. While some voter fraud has been occurring, the strategic funding of support to Republican house candidates was not done properly, and this is because the Neo-Cons would rather kill the Republican Party to keep Trump from going Elon Musk on federal employees. Also, where there was a lack of Republican turn out was because the candidates were NOT CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH.
Lenin said it himself. The people are the most reactionary force of all. Not capitalizing on that isn't a mistake, it's an intentional effort to destroy the populist movement by doing to Americans what they've done to the Conservative party in the UK.
In the UK, the conservative party looks more Leftist than the establishment Labour party at this point. They've maximized mass migration, fully embraced globalist economic policies, and have effectively created a coup within the Conservative Party that were already lead by people who are no further right-wing than Tulsi Gabbard. That's as far to the right as the Conservative Party goes.
The destruction of the Conservative Party is a fucking lesson on how the Globohomos will try to destroy the Republicans: create media scandals, remove the head of the party, promote infighting, and if the result doesn't come out the way you want it, just go with a coup. The whole time, just keep re-iterating that 72% of the people don't want right-wing terror policies like: lowering taxes, keeping migration stagnant, and securing an energy supply.
Trump is the 2024 candidate, warts and all. Everything else is blackpilling as a weapon directed against the right to maintain the Fabian Socialist agenda and bringing us into a Central Bank Digital Currency hellscape.
Say it louder for the retards in the back, many who populate this board. Like orange man or not, barring a stroke or something else major he is the only way forward for 2024. Anything else should be seen as the establishment (from both inside and outside the GOP) trying to create a schism to take back the party for the neocon wing.
AZ is squarely on McConell and clown world election fortification, and GA is still up in the air. Blake Masters is an amazing candidate in terms of policy. The GOP establishment just didn't want him elected so they spent nothing on him and instead poured money into Murkowski who was running against another Republican.
I'll never understand how people can be so delusional in their haste to blame everything on orange man that they'll rush to back candidates who are objectively shittier and a return to old establishment norms.
Oz was a terrible choice though I'll give you that.
I think what many people are failing to understand is that running a Romney republican and winning is just as much of a loss to us as running a Masters and losing. So it's better to run the better candidates because sometimes they can make it through like Vance or Lake.
Clearly you didn't understand what that sentence said, so I suggest reading it again, but slower. Maybe you'll understand it this time. Don't be a faggot.
Eh, not American but I don't think he is far enough from the establishment Republicans (or Democrats, for that matter).
Remember that he is the sole reason that vaccination was even considered a viable solution to "the pandemic". If it weren't for Operation Warp Speed, no one would be taking the idea of vaccination against a highly mutagenic virus seriously.
He's still in the pocket of big business, at the end of the day.
I think we need to learn a lesson from the Freedom Convoy and decentralize. We all basically agree on the direction we need to be taking but every time we put our eggs in one politicians basket, he makes an omlet for the globalists. We need a wave of independants who all offer alternatives to the woke hegemony, but who will also collaborate when they come into contact, and who unilaterally oppose status quo political parties. We need a huge grassroots surge at the local level before we even bother to think federally.
Remember that he is the sole reason that vaccination was even considered a viable solution to "the pandemic".
So are we just going to ignore all the people that advised him it was a good idea and place all blame on him? The same people that deliberately withheld information from him constantly so he would look bad when it turns out they were lying?
Because congrats then, you are doing exactly what they want you to do.
Right. Pfizer didn't take any Warp Speed money so they would have developed their vaccine, said we have this miracle cure don't you want it CDC, the bureaucrats on the take would have rubber stamped it just like they did, and Trump would be there powerlessly saying "but guys" being the bad guy to everybody; the left for opposing it and the right for being powerless to stop it.
the sole reason that vaccination was even considered a viable solution to "the pandemic". If it weren't for Operation Warp Speed, no one would be taking the idea of vaccination against a highly mutagenic virus seriously
I don't think that's true at all. Warp Speed just got the manufacturing and distribution ball rolling. The treatments were already in development and presented to him as an option. (There's even some indication they were in development before the pandemic, but that's another rabbit hole.)
Trump can be blamed for allowing the emergency authorization for barely-tested gene therapies to be unleashed on the public when they were. But if he hadn't then they simply would have waited until after the election to roll them out and give the Democrats credit.
Remember that he is the sole reason that vaccination was even considered a viable solution to "the pandemic". If it weren't for Operation Warp Speed, no one would be taking the idea of vaccination against a highly mutagenic virus seriously.
That's a retarded take. There is nothing wrong with Trump wanting to finance a vaccine against COVID. The Democrats didn't go fascist because Trump made the vaccine available; they did it because Trump didn't have them executed for treason when they started conducting biological warfare against their elderly and firebombing American cities.
I don't think he is far enough from the establishment Republicans
Yeah, sure, he's a 90's Democrat at the head of a right-wing populist movement. There's some unfortunate compromises here.
He's still in the pocket of big business, at the end of the day.
That's a hard disagree. Basically all big business has sided with the Globalists because all of them are globalists. Shockingly enough, Trump and the Oil Industry are probably the strongest allies the little people have at the moment.
We all basically agree on the direction we need to be taking but every time we put our eggs in one politicians basket, he makes an omlet for the globalists.
I don't think we're doing that. Trump's just an avatar. Most of us, even on this board, aren't on the same page politically. We just all understand who the enemy is. We are all happy to build our own paths forward though.
I don't think he is far enough from the establishment Republicans (or Democrats, for that matter).
Bingo. The current psyop is to reverse this and claim Trump is too radical or something along those lines. In reality, he became more of an establishment man post 2016, and that's why he is starting to lose his mojo. The movement has also become all about him. He was supposed to be a means, not an end unto himself.
It just comes down to the fact that Trump will be a spoiler in 2024 and split the vote between him and DeSantis, who would otherwise win. Libertarians will be retards as usual and vote for the Libertarian party (who was pro-vax mandate and lockdowns, i.e., frauds).
DeSantis could make a run, and would absolutely lose against the literal tens of millions of Republicans who make Trump *the most popular Republican president in history among republicans, sailing past Eisenhower and Reagan.
The question is how popular he will be on election day 2024, not 2 years out. At the equivalent point in time for the 2016 election, i.e., 2014, Trump had a popularity near zero.
That's because Trump wasn't even expected to run, and the field he was running against was some of the single most unpalatable Republican candidates ever. The best candidate that year that wasn't Trump was Ted Cruz, and not the theoretically-based bearded version we have today. The media was basically saying that the presidency was going to be decided between Hillary & Jeb, and the unanimous consensus was that everyone else wanted to vote Suicide.
That's when Trump stepped in and changed the fucking game by being an actual populist.
And now there are at least 2 good options. And we're 2 years out from the election. So making an argument comparing the popularity of an ex-president and a state governor at this time isn't reasonable.
I love DeSantis. I think he is by far the best governor. However, I think it is obvious that a lot of people in the GOP support him because they see him as an offramp from Trumpism and a road back to the Romney and McCain conservatism they love.
Which tells you that even if he is entirely honest and based, how strong those powerful special interests will be pulling on him and playing for influence when he's in office. I don't know many people besides Trump who can't be bought. I certainly don't see DeSantis ever shutting out the GOP. He will literally owe them for putting him there.
Well he used to be a Moderate till MAGA Nationalism took off. They think he'll wear that skin and then go back to go being a good lil' bridge maker when the time comes.
If such a thing is possible then he's a no go. Never back to the old GOP.
Trump is, like it or not, the avatar of the movement; and will probably hold a grudge pretty well. So we are going to need him. Not to mention, I'd much rather have a lot better local and state level ground game with people like Vance, DeSantis, and Lake.
I'm a Libertarian, so I don't mind the GOP being destroyed, but attacks on the MAGA movement are attacks on good allies.
What the GOP and their allied Democrats are doing is trying to convince people that Jeb Bush & Mitt Romneny style Republicans are the only way to move forward and properly "moderate" our "crazy opinions" into being "more electable".
Because remember: opposing anti-white hatred, opposing baby-murder, and wanting less taxes and war are """crazy opinions""" that aren't electable.
Bullshit. While some voter fraud has been occurring, the strategic funding of support to Republican house candidates was not done properly, and this is because the Neo-Cons would rather kill the Republican Party to keep Trump from going Elon Musk on federal employees. Also, where there was a lack of Republican turn out was because the candidates were NOT CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH.
Lenin said it himself. The people are the most reactionary force of all. Not capitalizing on that isn't a mistake, it's an intentional effort to destroy the populist movement by doing to Americans what they've done to the Conservative party in the UK.
In the UK, the conservative party looks more Leftist than the establishment Labour party at this point. They've maximized mass migration, fully embraced globalist economic policies, and have effectively created a coup within the Conservative Party that were already lead by people who are no further right-wing than Tulsi Gabbard. That's as far to the right as the Conservative Party goes.
The destruction of the Conservative Party is a fucking lesson on how the Globohomos will try to destroy the Republicans: create media scandals, remove the head of the party, promote infighting, and if the result doesn't come out the way you want it, just go with a coup. The whole time, just keep re-iterating that 72% of the people don't want right-wing terror policies like: lowering taxes, keeping migration stagnant, and securing an energy supply.
Trump is the 2024 candidate, warts and all. Everything else is blackpilling as a weapon directed against the right to maintain the Fabian Socialist agenda and bringing us into a Central Bank Digital Currency hellscape.
Say it louder for the retards in the back, many who populate this board. Like orange man or not, barring a stroke or something else major he is the only way forward for 2024. Anything else should be seen as the establishment (from both inside and outside the GOP) trying to create a schism to take back the party for the neocon wing.
People here just suck trumps dick, and will as we lose elections.
Trumps picks were shit, and lost us GA, AZ, and PA in the senate. All would have been easy wins.
Fucks sake, fetterwomxn had a stroke, and he still won. Some people need to pull their head out of their ass.
AZ is squarely on McConell and clown world election fortification, and GA is still up in the air. Blake Masters is an amazing candidate in terms of policy. The GOP establishment just didn't want him elected so they spent nothing on him and instead poured money into Murkowski who was running against another Republican.
I'll never understand how people can be so delusional in their haste to blame everything on orange man that they'll rush to back candidates who are objectively shittier and a return to old establishment norms.
Oz was a terrible choice though I'll give you that.
I think what many people are failing to understand is that running a Romney republican and winning is just as much of a loss to us as running a Masters and losing. So it's better to run the better candidates because sometimes they can make it through like Vance or Lake.
What kind of subversive is going to actually say that Kari Lake is a shit pick.
Next time, when you vote, follow your principles and write-in Jeb. We're sure to win then.
Clearly you didn't understand what that sentence said, so I suggest reading it again, but slower. Maybe you'll understand it this time. Don't be a faggot.
You're going to be coping so hard when Trump wins the nomination and picks DeSantis as his running mate.
Eh, not American but I don't think he is far enough from the establishment Republicans (or Democrats, for that matter).
Remember that he is the sole reason that vaccination was even considered a viable solution to "the pandemic". If it weren't for Operation Warp Speed, no one would be taking the idea of vaccination against a highly mutagenic virus seriously.
He's still in the pocket of big business, at the end of the day.
I think we need to learn a lesson from the Freedom Convoy and decentralize. We all basically agree on the direction we need to be taking but every time we put our eggs in one politicians basket, he makes an omlet for the globalists. We need a wave of independants who all offer alternatives to the woke hegemony, but who will also collaborate when they come into contact, and who unilaterally oppose status quo political parties. We need a huge grassroots surge at the local level before we even bother to think federally.
So are we just going to ignore all the people that advised him it was a good idea and place all blame on him? The same people that deliberately withheld information from him constantly so he would look bad when it turns out they were lying?
Because congrats then, you are doing exactly what they want you to do.
Right. Pfizer didn't take any Warp Speed money so they would have developed their vaccine, said we have this miracle cure don't you want it CDC, the bureaucrats on the take would have rubber stamped it just like they did, and Trump would be there powerlessly saying "but guys" being the bad guy to everybody; the left for opposing it and the right for being powerless to stop it.
I don't think that's true at all. Warp Speed just got the manufacturing and distribution ball rolling. The treatments were already in development and presented to him as an option. (There's even some indication they were in development before the pandemic, but that's another rabbit hole.)
Trump can be blamed for allowing the emergency authorization for barely-tested gene therapies to be unleashed on the public when they were. But if he hadn't then they simply would have waited until after the election to roll them out and give the Democrats credit.
That's a retarded take. There is nothing wrong with Trump wanting to finance a vaccine against COVID. The Democrats didn't go fascist because Trump made the vaccine available; they did it because Trump didn't have them executed for treason when they started conducting biological warfare against their elderly and firebombing American cities.
Yeah, sure, he's a 90's Democrat at the head of a right-wing populist movement. There's some unfortunate compromises here.
That's a hard disagree. Basically all big business has sided with the Globalists because all of them are globalists. Shockingly enough, Trump and the Oil Industry are probably the strongest allies the little people have at the moment.
I don't think we're doing that. Trump's just an avatar. Most of us, even on this board, aren't on the same page politically. We just all understand who the enemy is. We are all happy to build our own paths forward though.
Bingo. The current psyop is to reverse this and claim Trump is too radical or something along those lines. In reality, he became more of an establishment man post 2016, and that's why he is starting to lose his mojo. The movement has also become all about him. He was supposed to be a means, not an end unto himself.
It just comes down to the fact that Trump will be a spoiler in 2024 and split the vote between him and DeSantis, who would otherwise win. Libertarians will be retards as usual and vote for the Libertarian party (who was pro-vax mandate and lockdowns, i.e., frauds).
Trump isn't a spoiler, he's the only nominee.
Except the Libertarian party is being fucking purged by the Mises Caucus for exactly that reason.
Don't you think DeSantis could make a run?
DeSantis could make a run, and would absolutely lose against the literal tens of millions of Republicans who make Trump *the most popular Republican president in history among republicans, sailing past Eisenhower and Reagan.
The question is how popular he will be on election day 2024, not 2 years out. At the equivalent point in time for the 2016 election, i.e., 2014, Trump had a popularity near zero.
That's because Trump wasn't even expected to run, and the field he was running against was some of the single most unpalatable Republican candidates ever. The best candidate that year that wasn't Trump was Ted Cruz, and not the theoretically-based bearded version we have today. The media was basically saying that the presidency was going to be decided between Hillary & Jeb, and the unanimous consensus was that everyone else wanted to vote Suicide.
That's when Trump stepped in and changed the fucking game by being an actual populist.
And now there are at least 2 good options. And we're 2 years out from the election. So making an argument comparing the popularity of an ex-president and a state governor at this time isn't reasonable.
I love DeSantis. I think he is by far the best governor. However, I think it is obvious that a lot of people in the GOP support him because they see him as an offramp from Trumpism and a road back to the Romney and McCain conservatism they love.
Which tells you that even if he is entirely honest and based, how strong those powerful special interests will be pulling on him and playing for influence when he's in office. I don't know many people besides Trump who can't be bought. I certainly don't see DeSantis ever shutting out the GOP. He will literally owe them for putting him there.
Well he used to be a Moderate till MAGA Nationalism took off. They think he'll wear that skin and then go back to go being a good lil' bridge maker when the time comes.
If such a thing is possible then he's a no go. Never back to the old GOP.
Trump is, like it or not, the avatar of the movement; and will probably hold a grudge pretty well. So we are going to need him. Not to mention, I'd much rather have a lot better local and state level ground game with people like Vance, DeSantis, and Lake.