"there's not gonna be a war" were the words spoken in the run up to a great many wars.
The next American civil war might not be two organized near-peer militaries going head to head, but don't for a second think that the US isn't inches away from a slew of politically motivated assassinations.
There's not going to be a civil war because there is no serious competition among elites. All of their antagonisms are petty shit that will get shelved if the system they all benefit from comes under serious threat.
It's never the elites you need to worry about, if history has taught us anything, it's the young upstart that senses an opportunity with dedicated and loyal people behind him who you should he really terrified by
On the contrary, it's almost always elites. What it sounds like you are talking about here is a budding new elite class. That does present a possibility, but we're not in a situation like that, not yet anyway.
At current, probably more than the I.O.Us currently being dolled out...
A lot of what the current elites stand on is an image that standing against them is useless, that they are untouchable. If you make a god bleed, that blood is worth more than any riches they can provide.
The Chinese communist take over was hardly elites, in fact the elites fucked up so hard is how they took over
Stalin was not an elite, he was a ruthless gangster that just knew how to play the long game
The elites in Vietnam lost in fact an entire superpower lost to insurgents, and actually a good thing they did too since they then went on to take out the Khmer Rouge who were supposed by the elites when they wouldn't stop fucking with their people.
This all depends on what you deem 'elites' as I wouldn't deem any of these guys elites, they weren't raised in a guilded cage or part of an international community before their rise to power.
Before you guys start a semantic argument, I'll just point out that ArchRespawnsAgain was implying that you eventually need some elites and their machinations supporting the revolution. It's not important that the bulldog (Stalin) be a natural born feted elite himself.
It's one of the massive failures within the Western governments and institutions, they don't believe that someone can at a ground level stand up to them and hurt them, that it takes a Trump or an Elon to do it, forgetting that while they are important they would throw their resources behind an upstart if they showed success. (Like France during the American revolution)
I'm just here for the country to continue on it's journey down the path of 1920s Germany. They had a Civil War in 1919-1920, so we should likely get one too sometime.
they're will not be a civil war, quit LARPing. things would have to get far, far worse for anyone to even consider it. without elites leading, it would just be mob unrest anyway, not a civil war.
Good things wouldn't come from a US civil war, either. Other powers would get involved and it'd become a proxy war for other states that would destroy the country.
And there's not gonna be civil war, so GL with the voter fraud.
"there's not gonna be a war" were the words spoken in the run up to a great many wars.
The next American civil war might not be two organized near-peer militaries going head to head, but don't for a second think that the US isn't inches away from a slew of politically motivated assassinations.
There's not going to be a civil war because there is no serious competition among elites. All of their antagonisms are petty shit that will get shelved if the system they all benefit from comes under serious threat.
It's never the elites you need to worry about, if history has taught us anything, it's the young upstart that senses an opportunity with dedicated and loyal people behind him who you should he really terrified by
On the contrary, it's almost always elites. What it sounds like you are talking about here is a budding new elite class. That does present a possibility, but we're not in a situation like that, not yet anyway.
Are you sure as they seem inbred and retarded enough that a new class can easily swoop in and take power.
What would be the material support base of this prospective elite?
At current, probably more than the I.O.Us currently being dolled out...
A lot of what the current elites stand on is an image that standing against them is useless, that they are untouchable. If you make a god bleed, that blood is worth more than any riches they can provide.
The Chinese communist take over was hardly elites, in fact the elites fucked up so hard is how they took over
Stalin was not an elite, he was a ruthless gangster that just knew how to play the long game
The elites in Vietnam lost in fact an entire superpower lost to insurgents, and actually a good thing they did too since they then went on to take out the Khmer Rouge who were supposed by the elites when they wouldn't stop fucking with their people.
This all depends on what you deem 'elites' as I wouldn't deem any of these guys elites, they weren't raised in a guilded cage or part of an international community before their rise to power.
Before you guys start a semantic argument, I'll just point out that ArchRespawnsAgain was implying that you eventually need some elites and their machinations supporting the revolution. It's not important that the bulldog (Stalin) be a natural born feted elite himself.
That is true but usually comes when it's shown that the insurgent side is gaining ground.
I'd like to add this to my point
It's one of the massive failures within the Western governments and institutions, they don't believe that someone can at a ground level stand up to them and hurt them, that it takes a Trump or an Elon to do it, forgetting that while they are important they would throw their resources behind an upstart if they showed success. (Like France during the American revolution)
I think you meant to say "retaliation for the multiple attempted and some successful politically-motivated assassinations"
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I'm just here for the country to continue on it's journey down the path of 1920s Germany. They had a Civil War in 1919-1920, so we should likely get one too sometime.
they're will not be a civil war, quit LARPing. things would have to get far, far worse for anyone to even consider it. without elites leading, it would just be mob unrest anyway, not a civil war.
Why are you telling this to me? I already said there's not gonna be a civil war.
Good things wouldn't come from a US civil war, either. Other powers would get involved and it'd become a proxy war for other states that would destroy the country.
The beatings will continue until the money fails. Then it's go time. Until then, try to stay frosty frens.