Trump separated himself from the pack in 2016 by campaigning on building the wall, deporting illegals, draining the swamp, and locking up Hillary.
If he tries running on the same or similar issues this time around, the stench of bullshit will be too much to ignore except for his most devoted followers.
IMO, he'll probably run on "I'm not Biden," and I'm sure with how bad Biden is, he'll win just off of that.
The sad part is, this will be another wasted election to try and get an actual change candidate who won't sell out as much. Too bad Rand Paul has a terrible sense of what grassroots Republican voters want. Last time around, he was pandering to try in bring in more black voters. Fucking eh, what a mess.
If he is the nominee for 2024 he will mainly run on his personal grievances like "the election was stolen from me in 2020".
Trump will sadly turn off so many swing voters unnecessarily.
I don't think Trump can win a presidential race ever again with how many people now blindly hate him.
I pray our 2024 primary voters learn a lesson this Tuesday after they see Mastriano lose PA governor.
To maximize our chances of winning in 2024 we need someone new like Ron DeSantis or hell even Kari Lake or Glenn Youngkin.
Rand Paul is really bad at campaigning so he is not preferable at all.
I think he can, based on his track record with the economy and how bad Biden is.
And Biden didn't even win, they just rigged the election, but we haven't done much to crack down on voter fraud, so that'll be a hurdle.
I read your other post where you said he'll lose because he attended J6, but what is the lesson to be learned?
Sincere question, I haven't kept up with this race and I don't care too much for elections because I think they're rigged and the candidates usually sell out.
I wouldn't vote for any of those. In the case of DeSantis, IMO, he's better off as a Governor and we just dangle a carrot in front of him so he does a good job in Florida thinking he can run for President.
Yeah, sadly, and he doesn't have his ears to the ground. With that said, IMO, he would be the best choice if he could actually win.
When given a choice between Biden and Trump in 2024, most normies will foolishly choose Biden because they impulsively seethe when they even see the orange man.
Trump's chances of winning 2024 against even Biden are honestly quite abysmal.
In the dark timeline where he becomes the R nominee in 2024, I still would vote for Trump. I will vote for whoever the R nominee is in 2024 but I prefer someone new without Trump's baggage.
Look at my previous comment in another thread to see what Mastriano's problems in PA are:
https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/16ZDcSGVd9/x/c/4TnOijacrKN
Trump will face the exact same problems in 2024 nationwide if he is the nominee.
You don't want candidates that are absolute poison to suburbs in swing states. Trump in 2016 didn't have the 1/6 stigma.
I like Rand Paul but even if he was excellent at campaigning he is not my favorite pick for 2024. I disagree with Rand Paul's libertarian views when it comes to big tech. Rand Paul believes that the govt should not regulate at all against their bias.
In terms of possible 2024 candidates:
Kari Lake would be the most based on policy and she has real charisma.
Glenn Youngkin would be okay on policy but he is excellent at campaigning.
Youngkin would also be the most palatable candidate to suburbs so he likely would have the highest electability.
Ron DeSantis is the balance between Lake and Youngkin. DeSantis fuses pretty good policy positions with a high level of electability. DeSantis lacks Lake's charisma though.
My personal ranking for 2024 would be
Big gap in quality
This reads like a press release straight from Con Inc. That is a gross underestimate of Trump's cult and overestimate of spreadsheet Americans. Trump isn't some great bastion of based, but his arc still has a third act.
I despise Con Inc and I just want to win 2024.
Don't you dare lump me in with scumbag Bushites who want someone for 2024 like Larry Hogan or Liz Cheney.
Trump's third act would end up ushering in a second term of Biden or whatever other shit Dem they run.
Trump's cult is absolutely delusional about his 2024 chances.
A 78 year old Trump running again is an asinine idea.
I agree 100%. He's running, though. His first shot at DeSantis came like yesterday or somewhere in the last few days, calling him "Ron DeSanctimonious." Trump is expected to declare after the midterms, but who knows whether or not DeSantis will run, though he's being courted by rich R donors.
A strong contender could actually discredit and defeat Trump in primaries. But if/when one does, he'd better lay off the bullshit scandals and especially the Jan 6 lie.
Who? Prior to Trump announcing in his run for 2016, many thought the Republican primaries were stacked. He dismantled them all thoroughly, so hard that Cruz almost lost to Beto afterwards. If you think that won't happen to DeSantis or whomever else wants to try, I've got a bridge real cheap
If Trump wants to run, he's the nominee
This is really the sticking part for me. If Trump were still in his 50s or even his early 60s I could see running him again. However, the dude's an old man at the end of the road now. He shouldn't be running simply due to how old he is.
Maybe, but we're still voting for the man. NO BRAKES ON THIS TRAIN! GIVE THIS PEDE A BRICK!
Saw some poll recently that said like 70%? of people (a lot whatever the % was) wouldn't want a candidate that claimed an election was stolen.
So I think you're right about that part and that Trump will run on being gyped out of 2020.
But on the other hand, over half of voters say the election was stolen. So it can be a case of people insisting they don't like what Trump is saying and then actually voting for him because of what he's saying. Like in 2016 when people said grabbing by the pussy was outrageous and then voted for him because they kinda liked that he grabbed pussies.
Given the continuing cheating and Trump running on being gyped I think the only hope is a Trump + DeSantis ticket with DeSantis being the security blanket.