Win / KotakuInAction2
KotakuInAction2
Communities Topics Log In Sign Up
Sign In
Hot
All Posts
Settings
All
Profile
Saved
Upvoted
Hidden
Messages

Your Communities

General
AskWin
Funny
Technology
Animals
Sports
Gaming
DIY
Health
Positive
Privacy
News
Changelogs

More Communities

frenworld
OhTwitter
MillionDollarExtreme
NoNewNormal
Ladies
Conspiracies
GreatAwakening
IP2Always
GameDev
ParallelSociety
Privacy Policy
Terms of Service
Content Policy
DEFAULT COMMUNITIES • All General AskWin Funny Technology Animals Sports Gaming DIY Health Positive Privacy
KotakuInAction2 The Official Gamergate Forum
hot new rising top

Sign In or Create an Account

21
Over 165,000 Americans would die every year if the USA had Finland's socialist healthcare system. (media.communities.win)
posted 3 years ago by Chukna 3 years ago by Chukna +21 / -0
22 comments download share
22 comments share download save hide report block hide replies
Comments (22)
sorted by:
▲ 27 ▼
– FuckGenderPolitics 27 points 3 years ago +27 / -0

That's the point. The left wants to decide who lives and who dies. Death panels are just another "conspiracy theory" that turned out to be true.

permalink save report block reply
▲ 15 ▼
– Norenia 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Worse, conspiracy theory that turned out to be PROJECTION.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 13 ▼
– Benevolentdictator 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Trudeau is killing 10k Canadians annually via euthanasia on a population of 38 million, including young children, the poor on welfare, veterans with PTSD and middle-aged adults in hospital "using lots of resources".

He keeps expanding the criteria, recently to children apparently without parental consent required.

Media reports in the last year of government workers offering unsolicited euthanasia to veterans seeking mental health services, welfare recipients unable to afford rent and chronically ill people but not terminal taking up space in hospital.

Used to think the "Death Panels" trope was just a boogeyman, but it's happening in real time now as actual socialist medical services get rationed ever further.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 7 ▼
– anta_occult 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

It's just a factual inevitability if you have a healthcare system outside the market. Limited resources have to be distributed one way or another. If the state controls healthcare outside of the market, then the only way to do this is using some system of distribution determined by the state. For dying persons who need limited resources, the only way the state can distribute them is either a lottery or death-panels. There are no other options.

Of course, if health care is market based, then simply the rich live and the poor die in such scenarios.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 2 ▼
– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
▲ 12 ▼
– almond_activator 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

This poster has a single comment on September 29th, then nothing until today, where he/she/trollself posted five articles all aimed at dividing Finland and the US.

All indications are this account was created by the first forum slider smart enough to wait out the handshake period but dull enough to make their agenda extremely obvious.

permalink save report block reply
▲ 6 ▼
– MargarineMongoose 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

The next iteration will be sneakier.

Gonna have to start vetting every OP's comment history.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 3 ▼
– Devidose 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Gonna have to start vetting every OP's comment history.

Considering all the calls for preventative gatekeeping that happen here, yeah sort of.

No idea what would work but at the very least comment participation could be required before handshakes can make threads. Would deal with all the recent "one and done" posts there has been recently by accounts with zero comments.

Last time something like that happened it was a someone ban evading from here with multiple alts and was too dumb to not user their main account when posting the exact same threads to multiple other boards.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 8 ▼
– AntonioOfVenice 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

This is assuming that all Americans receive adequate care.

permalink save report block reply
▲ 6 ▼
– deleted 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0
▲ 4 ▼
– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Just judging by this headline and subheader, it seems that they compared death rates among the wealthiest and the poorest - and found that the poorest are more likely to die.

Which is then apparently attributed to inadequate health care.

If that is the standard, the comparable number for America is likely to be way worse, not better.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 4 ▼
– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
▲ 3 ▼
– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I can't find the OP article, but if both 'studies' are correct - it seems that the IOM specifically attributed those deaths to lack of health care, whereas the Finnish study just counted excess deaths.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 3 ▼
– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
▲ 1 ▼
– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Interesting.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– DonuteaterReturns 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Now factor in medical bankruptcy.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 3 ▼
– dekachin 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Based Finland dealing with the muslim rape problem.

permalink save report block reply
▲ 8 ▼
– deleted 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0
▲ 2 ▼
– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
▲ 2 ▼
– GiveThemNothing 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Ischemic heart disease is the #1 cause of death in both countries.

In Finland, about 10,000 people died from heart disease (2016), or (10,000 deaths / 5,497,713 population ) * 100 (percent) ~ 0.18%.

In the US, about 697,000 died from heart disease (2020), or (697,000 deaths / 331,002,2651 population) * 100 (percent) ~ 0.02%.

Finland's heart disease death rate is about 9x higher than the US'.

permalink save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– yvaN_ehT_nioJ 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Finland: exists

Chukna: "And I took that personally"

permalink save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Original 8chan Links to Gamer Gate:

.

The main GG discussion is on the videogames board: https://8chan.moe/v/

.

GamerGate archive is at https://8chan.moe/gamergatehq/

.

GamerGate Wiki:

https://ggwiki.deepfreeze.it/index.php/Main_Page

. . . . . .

. . . . . .

Rules:

.

ONE: Do not advocate for illegal violence or post other illegal activity. (Be aware of your local laws.)

.

TWO: Don't threaten, harass, or impersonate users. Also: don't be a psycho. New users will be held to a higher standard.

.

THREE: Do not post porn.

.

FOUR: NSFW/NSFL content must be flaired NSFW.

.

FIVE: No vote manipulation. Do not break communities.win's features.

.

SIX: No spam or reposts. Do not make more than 5 threads a day.

.

SEVEN: Do not post falsehoods and hoaxes that are obvious to an uncontroversial degree.

. . . . . .

. . . . . .

Moderation Logs:

.

(Two different versions, Scored has more features and is cleaner, but .win let's you see a few more details in certain instances.)

  • Scored
  • .win

Moderators

  • DomitiusOfMassilia
  • C
  • BandageBandolier
  • CarmenOfSandiego
  • The_Shadow_of_Intent
  • SocraticMethod1
  • Kienan
  • Smith1980
Message the Moderators

Terms of Service | Privacy Policy

2026.02.01 - whmbz (status)

Copyright © 2026.

Terms of Service | Privacy Policy