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The US government is interested in software to de-anonymize authors (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by lgbtqwtfbbq 3 years ago by lgbtqwtfbbq +49 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 26 points 3 years ago +26 / -0

If successful, HIATUS could have far-reaching impacts, from countering foreign influence activities, to identifying counterintelligence risks and protecting authors whose work may endanger them

Relax, it's only about 'protecting' authors... from being identified by this software that we are sponsoring.

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– cartoonericroberts 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

This is a technology that I legit fear. We need a "Grammarly for dissidents."

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

I suspect this technology already exists (because I suspect it's a lot easier than we think to do) but, like cryptography in the early days, the only people who know anything about it are government employees working on some classified project. For the simple reason that until recently governments have taken the most interest in this sort of thing.

But the existence of this project signals that private industry needs to take an interest in the field, and government will bootstrap an academia and industry around doing this sort of work.

That is what worries me.

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– truenationalist 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

It does already exist. Textual analysis like this is one of the easiest things for AI to do. The issue is they have to have a set of your existing writing to generate a probability of a match.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

It'd be easy to get a large sampling of writing if you ran the tool on, say, a large email server. University and corporate email systems would have massive bodies of writing directly linked to a person's name. For a very large percentage of the population.

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– truenationalist 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Gmail.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

It's how they found Ted Kaczynski. They published a letter in the papers and the feds did their parallel construction thing to have his brother "recognize" the writing style.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

I could believe the brother recognized Uncle Ted's writing. Hell I've recognized the writing of people I know IRL. I was reading an article once and thought to myself "this sounds a lot like X", and when I looked to see who wrote it sure enough he was the author.

That's one of the reasons I think it's probably fairly easy to do. People use particular phrases that others don't or use certain words to describe a thing more often than available synonyms. A simple system would probably just involve taking a large sampling of an individual's writing, performing a simple frequency analysis of words/phrases, and identifying outliers compared against a general corpus of writing.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Yeah, it basically means we have it already and now it's official.

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– GeneralBoobs 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Is there a tech company that doesn't suck government dick?

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– realerfunction 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

no, because they'd be destroyed like qwest

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– when_we_win_remember 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

What is Qwest and what happened to them? Were they some mobile operator?

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– realerfunction 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

they were a telecom like comcast or at&t that, according to the then-ceo, refused to cooperate with the nsa's surveillance stuff that snowden leaked, and the company was basically destroyed by the government in retaliation.

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– icockmyglock 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

No, because all R&D is funded by government.

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– deleted 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0
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– Sumsuch 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Oh, are we supposed to pretend they don't have one of those already?

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– deleted 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0
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– truenationalist 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Even if you language with affectation you will still have deep patterns that are probably detectable (unless you use a tool to obfuscate)

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– HalfSlow 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

So, time for an open source rephrasing tool that cranks out generic translations of one's writing. (Oops, I mean "your writing"). Even writing in flawless English would be identifiable. I'm fixing to include some dialect in my anonymous postings.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I think people have tried this by using language translation tools: translate something through multiple languages and back to English. Don't know how well it works though.

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– icockmyglock 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

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– deleted 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0
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– JustHereForTheSalmon 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

If the US spooks get it, then they get it.

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