Why are they always so obsessed with blacks? and this isnt manga it wasnt even made by Japanese .
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That’s the hentai version.
True to life manga-lite. What'll they think of next.
Isn't this comic missing the two things needed to be a Shonen manga?
It has to be published by Shonen Jump
And it needs to be created by a Japanese author to be a manga.
This is just an imitation.
It doesn't have to be Shonen Jump to be shonen. There are other avenues.
But as noted in other comments, these authors are woke. So fuck 'em.
Shonen just means "boys" essentially, so anything that is targeted at younger males is Shonen, technically.
That being said, it would be a Shonen comic at best, definitely not a manga as you said it is not made by a Japanese person.
That's the dumbest take I had read in a while. To show you how dumb it is I will have you ponder the following:
Two men make a pizza. Both men made it using same ingredients while following the same recipe. Which pizza is the authentic one? Perhaps neither because neither of them is Italian. But what if a Italian is a shitty cook and uses a western recipe where it's more than tomato and mozzarella? Is it still a pizza?
Manga isnt an artstyle. It just means "Japanese comics' so if its not Japanese its not manga and Japanese can change their artstyle however they please and it will still be manga because its Japanese.
Japanese manga style can be replicated by a non-japanese. A non-japanese westerner trained by a japanese mangaka will be able to produce a manga.
Maybe specifying that it wasn't made in Japan or made by a Japanese person is wrong, but I just would never consider manga made here, especially by shit stirring diversity advocates to even be in the same discussion as manga. I don't even consider Korean manhwa to be manga (partially because it has its own name, and partially because most manhwa are complete shit). I'd never consider Chinese manhua to be manga either for similar reasons.
That being said, food analogies are always fucking stupid, and manga is widely considered to be "comics or graphic novels originating from Japan" so I'm not sure what the point is there.
if you dont gatekeep and you allow manga to mean "artstyle" next thing you know a bunch of woke foreigners will come in and then suddenly manga becomes non-Japanese and overcrowded with what is really non Japanese comics imitating their artstyle and stealing their name. Whether good or bad, manga belongs to Japan no matter what.
I looked up the SaturdayAM people from the post above, and they are definitely trying to do just that. On their website, its 25 series listed that are all vaguely anime/manga...ish but with roughly half of them being clearly black characters on the thumbnail.
That being said I have read manga for at least 20 years, and still do daily, and have never heard of a single one of their series listed. So at least they haven't made much progress yet, thankfully.
My analogy is fine.
Your examples are flawed because shit stirring diversity advocates and Korean manhwa artists didn't followed the manga recipe faithfully.
If a non-japanese westerner is trained by a japanese mangaka to use japanese tools while performing japanese drawing techniques while adhering to japanese story telling tropes then the resulting product will be a japanese manga.
Heck, I will take early 2000s fake anime over this, sometimes they indeed did make a gem(Avatar, Ben10 was fine as well). I doubt any of these melanin """manga""" are any good.
Dear God no, let's not return to the Kappa Mikey era.
Absolutely. Take Fairy Tail for example, where the female lead is the star and the male lead is her sidekick. I seriously doubt that this comic is actually targeted towards the interests of young men though, and it is almost certainly a halfassed attempt to redefine their interests instead.
I'm more bothered by the hideous troon in the background.
Yeah, lemme know when Shonen Jump picks this up, then we'll talk. Otherwise this ain't Manga.
If you squint, it reads "cuck striker".
I'm not interested, but they made their own, so good for them.
Urban youth happily preparing to assault the audience while an empty egg carton smugly watches from the back. Seems like it could be a treasure trove of ironically revealing propaganda.
Maybe it was written by one? The author's name sounds like it, but I could be wrong.
Besides, I've been surprised before. One of my favorite cartoons of all time had the light-skinned male lead eventually marry a dark-skinned woman.
So who knows, maybe this thing is a decent read...but in Current Year, unlikely.
Both the authors are black. One from America and one from Niger who is now living in France.
Are they original? Better than a swap
they're original though they got ideas from other stories. . The authors are virtue signallers that go on about "muh diversity" though but they acknowledge its "manga style" and not manga on their website. The issue is the constant virtue signalling thats annoying, like the virtue signalling post gets 97k likes.
Yea, I would say just present your story. No need to lead with that.
True. Nothing wrong with being inspired by other cultures and if they were fans of manga then that’s great but as you stated the rules of cultural appropriation seem to go one way. Thankfully it’s pretty easy to see how stupid the people that talk about cultural appropriation are
Well, that'll do it, then. Fuck 'em.
“Colonialism” is quickly becoming the most annoying word for me. I love how young people talk about these things as if they personally suffered. Some make it seem like they suffered more than any slave in the history of the world
Which cartoon?
I thought everyone knew by now--Avatar: The Last Airbender.
My nerd cred isn’t as high in the anime arena. I have a lot of shows to watch
Pretty sure I've seen some works that have a chocolate elf as one of the MCs, so I think they're going to need to be even more needlessly specific in their "first"ing.
It's just a comic. Nothing wrong with being a comic, but it isn't a manga and it's certainly not a shonen. Still, I will give them this, they're making their own stuff. Please continue to create your own works and stop ruining our existing stuff.
Do these people have any understanding of what "Shonen" actually means?
That said, at the very least they're attempting to create something new instead of just remaking Full Metal Alchemist with a Strong Black Woman as Edward.
...right?
asked my frens in ghana. so weird theyve never heard of it.
so weird all the 'by black for blacks, cus muh blacks' -rhetoric
never seems to garner much traction in africa...
odd that.
considering theres about 1Billion potential consumers there...