Why are they always so obsessed with blacks? and this isnt manga it wasnt even made by Japanese .
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That's the dumbest take I had read in a while. To show you how dumb it is I will have you ponder the following:
Two men make a pizza. Both men made it using same ingredients while following the same recipe. Which pizza is the authentic one? Perhaps neither because neither of them is Italian. But what if a Italian is a shitty cook and uses a western recipe where it's more than tomato and mozzarella? Is it still a pizza?
Manga isnt an artstyle. It just means "Japanese comics' so if its not Japanese its not manga and Japanese can change their artstyle however they please and it will still be manga because its Japanese.
Japanese manga style can be replicated by a non-japanese. A non-japanese westerner trained by a japanese mangaka will be able to produce a manga.
Maybe specifying that it wasn't made in Japan or made by a Japanese person is wrong, but I just would never consider manga made here, especially by shit stirring diversity advocates to even be in the same discussion as manga. I don't even consider Korean manhwa to be manga (partially because it has its own name, and partially because most manhwa are complete shit). I'd never consider Chinese manhua to be manga either for similar reasons.
That being said, food analogies are always fucking stupid, and manga is widely considered to be "comics or graphic novels originating from Japan" so I'm not sure what the point is there.
if you dont gatekeep and you allow manga to mean "artstyle" next thing you know a bunch of woke foreigners will come in and then suddenly manga becomes non-Japanese and overcrowded with what is really non Japanese comics imitating their artstyle and stealing their name. Whether good or bad, manga belongs to Japan no matter what.
I looked up the SaturdayAM people from the post above, and they are definitely trying to do just that. On their website, its 25 series listed that are all vaguely anime/manga...ish but with roughly half of them being clearly black characters on the thumbnail.
That being said I have read manga for at least 20 years, and still do daily, and have never heard of a single one of their series listed. So at least they haven't made much progress yet, thankfully.
My analogy is fine.
Your examples are flawed because shit stirring diversity advocates and Korean manhwa artists didn't followed the manga recipe faithfully.
If a non-japanese westerner is trained by a japanese mangaka to use japanese tools while performing japanese drawing techniques while adhering to japanese story telling tropes then the resulting product will be a japanese manga.