The people are pretty stupid so it's not entirely a bad thing. Problem is the guys actually running the show are also really stupid, and really evil on top.
Embracing hierarchy and uneven power structures works better overall because everyone knows what everyone else's individual responsibilities are, and people in high positions are pressured to live up to them. You'll always have corrupt rulers but you'll also have noblesse oblige. Without being under the allusion that "we the people are in control!", those power structures would be more visible, more people would learn how to manipulate them, and we'd know who to go after when it's time to revolt.
Good. Democracies are gynocentric garbage where a bunch of simps and women control society. Anyone who advocates for a democracy loses all respect from me. Limited suffrage democracy where only the top 10% of men vote is fine.
He's always been pro-extinction by making it near impossible for children to exist. After all, any single benefit women get, and also marriage, are just tradcuck traps to his worldview.
I don’t know much about Hungary. Do they get money regardless of whether or not they are married? Incentivizing single motherhood seems like a pretty bad idea.
Yes, an expense for the person who wants one, not for everyone else. A Ferrari would make me happy, but I don't ask the government to buy me one. Or for a less mocking example, a Roomba would make my life easier, but the state won't buy one for me.
I disagree. Those with families are more likely to have to take time off to deal with their issues.
If your population doesn't have a fertility rate of 2.1, you end up with the economic dead weight of more retirees than workers.
Any person without two children is a future economic burden that will necessitate the import of foreigners to take care of them. A low fertility rate is the death knell of civilization.
What you're actually saying is that the idea of a state pension, as popularized by European countries, is a deal with the devil.
No, I'm not.
It matters not where the money to support the elderly comes from - what matters is that there are enough young people to do it. All the money in the world doesn't make 100 workers support 200 retirees. All it does is give you the money to bring in 100 foreigners to pick up the slack.
And now your country is full of foreigners. GG, civilization collapses.
We need a minimum 90% reduction in population, then births at a sustainable level from then on. The growth-at-every-cost cancer model is getting expensive, and the collapse will be more spectacular the longer it takes.
So you are happy because they don't get money because they have not sold their people out to The Feminine Way? Not sure what point you are trying to make here.
The EU has been fucking with Hungary for years, because the country and its leaders are not playing along nicely with the globohomo.
They have sold their people out. It's just that most people are too stupid to realize.
Hungary has hiked taxes massively to pay for a ridiculous program that promises women with kids will never pay tax among a whole host of targeted benefits for women that are clearly fiscally irresponsible.
They are playing along, it's just that their distaste for gays is a sticking point.
Women who had four kids don't pay income tax any more, that much is true, but the number of women with that many kids that still work is very small.
All the other benefits you can get from having kids, like a flat out small sum you get every month, and the tax cuts do not benefit women any more, than men.
Also, what taxes have been hiked exactly?
You sound like you are talking out of your ass, my friend.
You used to have good takes from time to time, what happened? Don't remember when was the last time I have upvoted anything from you.
Good, now how do these connect to women? According to you these hikes have happened because: "Hungary has hiked taxes massively to pay for a ridiculous program that promises women with kids will never pay tax among a whole host of targeted benefits for women that are clearly fiscally irresponsible."
To steal from Auron MacIntyre, what does democracy mean in this sentence?
Spez: Auron did the thing.
They mean it isn't doing what the European Parliament wants it to do.
A democracy, the EU presumes, is when you ignore your native electorate and instead let a conglomeration of foreigners tell you what to do.
It means the same thing it always means to the left; socialism.
Good. "A democracy" is not something we should be striving for. At this point Democracy is nothing more than a secular religion.
The people are pretty stupid so it's not entirely a bad thing. Problem is the guys actually running the show are also really stupid, and really evil on top.
Embracing hierarchy and uneven power structures works better overall because everyone knows what everyone else's individual responsibilities are, and people in high positions are pressured to live up to them. You'll always have corrupt rulers but you'll also have noblesse oblige. Without being under the allusion that "we the people are in control!", those power structures would be more visible, more people would learn how to manipulate them, and we'd know who to go after when it's time to revolt.
was orban elected by the people of hungary?
Overwhelmingly so.
Good. Democracies are gynocentric garbage where a bunch of simps and women control society. Anyone who advocates for a democracy loses all respect from me. Limited suffrage democracy where only the top 10% of men vote is fine.
I'm not sure anything could be more gynocentric than Hungary's current state.
They're Gynocentric Right, while places like the UK, Canada etc are Gynocentric Left.
It'd be a fun political compass idea.
I'd still prefer gynocentric right but you are correct.
Good. Democracy is an invalid form of governance.
> electoral autocracy
Pay women twice as much to have kids, keep crippling your economy. Keep stealing money from young men and businesses to give it to them.
Makes me happy that the EU stabbed them in the back. That free EU money for selling out your people to The Feminine Way isn't coming.
You'd prefer they not have kids?
Yes. He would.
I'd prefer if they didn't steal money from the productive to give to the reproductive.
I'm kind of proud of that line.
Newsflash 1: Child-bearing women who maintain the home are an economic expense and always will be.
Newsflash 2: A productive man without a family is not as productive as a productive man with a family.
You are proud of blindness.
He's always been pro-extinction by making it near impossible for children to exist. After all, any single benefit women get, and also marriage, are just tradcuck traps to his worldview.
I don’t know much about Hungary. Do they get money regardless of whether or not they are married? Incentivizing single motherhood seems like a pretty bad idea.
It's certainly not great, but it's not as bad when the children aren't black.
Yes, an expense for the person who wants one, not for everyone else. A Ferrari would make me happy, but I don't ask the government to buy me one. Or for a less mocking example, a Roomba would make my life easier, but the state won't buy one for me.
I disagree. Those with families are more likely to have to take time off to deal with their issues.
God, you're a fool.
If your population doesn't have a fertility rate of 2.1, you end up with the economic dead weight of more retirees than workers.
Any person without two children is a future economic burden that will necessitate the import of foreigners to take care of them. A low fertility rate is the death knell of civilization.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societal_collapse#Demographic_dynamics
Read it and weep.
I'm pretty sure people retiring should have their own savings. I started saving for an early retirement at 21.
What you're actually saying is that the idea of a state pension, as popularized by European countries, is a deal with the devil.
I'm fully on board with cutting government spending, especially on women.
Also, haven't people been fearmongering Japan collapsing for literal decades now?
USA Q2 22 GDP : -0.6%
Japan Q2 22 GDP : +3.5%
Someone tell the stormcucks, they did it way before Israel, or even America, was a dream in someone's head.
No, I'm not.
It matters not where the money to support the elderly comes from - what matters is that there are enough young people to do it. All the money in the world doesn't make 100 workers support 200 retirees. All it does is give you the money to bring in 100 foreigners to pick up the slack.
And now your country is full of foreigners. GG, civilization collapses.
We need a minimum 90% reduction in population, then births at a sustainable level from then on. The growth-at-every-cost cancer model is getting expensive, and the collapse will be more spectacular the longer it takes.
Fuck off, murderous swine. If you want to see the population decline START WITH YOURSELF. Keep my kids out of this, asshole.
Did you make room for them, or are you just adding to the problem?
I see what you did there.
Women are getting paid twice as much to have kids compared to what?
No, I'm saying what they should do to fix this is double down and pay yet more money they don't have, to people who don't deserve it.
So you are happy because they don't get money because they have not sold their people out to The Feminine Way? Not sure what point you are trying to make here.
The EU has been fucking with Hungary for years, because the country and its leaders are not playing along nicely with the globohomo.
They have sold their people out. It's just that most people are too stupid to realize.
Hungary has hiked taxes massively to pay for a ridiculous program that promises women with kids will never pay tax among a whole host of targeted benefits for women that are clearly fiscally irresponsible.
They are playing along, it's just that their distaste for gays is a sticking point.
Women who had four kids don't pay income tax any more, that much is true, but the number of women with that many kids that still work is very small.
All the other benefits you can get from having kids, like a flat out small sum you get every month, and the tax cuts do not benefit women any more, than men.
Also, what taxes have been hiked exactly?
You sound like you are talking out of your ass, my friend.
You used to have good takes from time to time, what happened? Don't remember when was the last time I have upvoted anything from you.
I'm glad you asked.
We start with airlines
Then large retail businesses
Then small business
And also all of these...
https://home.kpmg/us/en/home/insights/2022/06/tnf-hungary-extra-profit-surtaxes-financial-transaction-taxes-tax-increases.html
All because of their idiocy about women.
Good, now how do these connect to women? According to you these hikes have happened because: "Hungary has hiked taxes massively to pay for a ridiculous program that promises women with kids will never pay tax among a whole host of targeted benefits for women that are clearly fiscally irresponsible."