Back when cars were a luxury item, affordable only to the wealthy just as horses were, a "date" for most people involved walking with the girl you liked down to the fair, or to the riverside, or busing to the beach. Now, because of the explosion of post-war luxury, we've created a dating market where even the least desirable women expect you to drive them to a nice restaurant and pay for the meal, at the very least. Women being women, most of them will not moderate those expectations, even if it really does end up being the case that most men can't afford it. Women will just compete for an ever-shrinking pool of upper and upper-middle class men who can actually afford to treat them the way movies and television and social media tell them they should be treated, and other men will be left to Go Their Own Way regardless of what they want.
Where do you get these ideas? You think the vast majority of women are single, which would be the result if they would only want the top of the top?
I see more broke, unemployed, fat, balding, pathetic losers with than without girlfriends.
Also, demanding that men pay is more of an American thing. In Europe, it is the norm that girls pay half for a date. Regardless, if you can't afford $60 for a date, why would you date to begin with? If they're not desirable, then don't do it.
Yeah I saw this. Apparently they think that they haven't done enough to rig the system in favor of women. The real problem is that only Chads and thots get any utility out of dating apps. Bottom 80% males are wasting their time. The 40% of their userbase that's getting scammed must be finally waking up. The real fun is yet to come. Watch the thots abandon the apps in droves when they run out of betas to con into taking them on foodie dates.
I dunno, maybe that's true now. Back in the late '90s up to about 2010, I used match.com and managed to find and have pretty good relationships with four women over a ten-year period, with one affair being one of the greatest of my life, though I eventually got dumped because she was mercenary like all women and "traded up." I learned that older, divorced women, while really good in bed and usually interesting to talk with after sex, are generally not willing to start from scratch with a man in a lower tax bracket.
I think I removed myself from the dating market at about the right time in 2017.
Match.com had an algorithm that was supposedly tailored to successful long-term relationships, so I wouldn't even put that in the same different category as the dating apps men complain about. But yeah maybe they changed.
All these sites have algorithms that prioritize keeping people on their app and making them money. If the algorithm really did lead to a long term match that's 2 people who aren't doing that. But maybe Match.com is different. LTR = betabux, so non-Chads may have a chance on that app. Not like that ends well, but that's why MGTOW is exploding.
Apparently they think that they haven't done enough to rig the system in favor of women.
You might as well complain about 'free entry' for women at bars. Why do you think that is? This is for the same reason. Unless you are going to use Grinder, you want a lot of women to be on your app, not?
I'm not complaining. I'm reporting what the article said and calling it retarded. It isn't shown in the OP but that's exactly what the article said. My point is that the apps' problems stem from the fact that their business model revolves around conning men into playing a rigged game. The model fails when men realize that they're wasting their time and walk away, and that's what's happening here even if they desperately wish it wasn't the case.
And no, this is not a report by Match. It's a financial report by someone who says he has no stock interest at all in Match. Do you get anything right?
Can I short you? I know you're miserable, and that you try very hard to give yourself heart disease. Bad financial decisionmaking should put you in a higher risk for bankruptcy.
For the third time: you're not going to address how you tried to deceive users here into believing that this was actually in a report by Match itself? I thought you ripped it from somewhere, and failed to check as usual, but it looks now that you intentionally tried to deceive people.
I'm going to reply only with the point that you've steadfastly ignored. For the fourth time: how come you deceived users here and then did not even bother to address that you did?
Hard driving career women want either weak men they can own or a house husband to take care of their crotch fruit, because they have no maternal instincts of their own.
And you have also rendered yourself entirely irrelevant to human society until you die alone and forgotten. Congratulations. A hedonistic, coke-addled musician who can’t figure out how to put on a condom is literally more useful to the world than you are, and will contribute more to the future than you ever will. But at least you won’t get your feelings hurt again, and that’s what’s important.
The reality is that the whole Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) act is little more than gamma posturing. Omegas who have no choice but to go their own way due to social rejection don’t make such a major production of it and are usually quite willing to admit that they are lonely and would prefer that things were otherwise. And most MGTOW will drop the act in a heartbeat if a woman happens to smile at them or say something nice to them, at least until they inevitably say something that causes the smile to vanish from her face and inspires her to flee as quickly as social etiquette permits.
Lifelong loneliness is not a reasonable price to pay for avoiding the occasional rejection by women. And there is no point in pretending you are not lonely, because if you weren’t, you wouldn’t be constantly posting on social media telling strangers how you don’t care what women think about you. And doubling down on the very weirdness that both men and women find off-putting is not something that will increase either your emotional health or your odds of social success.
If your life sucks, then change it. What have you got to lose?
If your life sucks, then change it. What have you got to lose?
Have you entertained the possibility that they felt their life sucked, that they did change it, and that they are happier now that they've gone their own way?
Perhaps they are quite content to care more about whether they are of use to their own self-benefit rather than whether they are useful to society.
If we're so undesirable, us avoiding them would make no difference.
That's not true! You genetic dead ends provide us with a great mount of comic relief.
B : Not everyone who is desirable wishes to be with a woman.
If you find homosexuals desirable.
I feel the same revulsion towards them that Jews feel when they see a swastika.
Great. Now imagine this, and a vastly, vastly higher rape and murder rate targeted at your gender. That is how women feel towards you. If they hate you, it's justified, or so you so.
I don't wish to delude myself into a happy state of ignorance.
A happy state of ignorance is surely preferable to your unhappy state of ignorance.
Back when cars were a luxury item, affordable only to the wealthy just as horses were, a "date" for most people involved walking with the girl you liked down to the fair, or to the riverside, or busing to the beach. Now, because of the explosion of post-war luxury, we've created a dating market where even the least desirable women expect you to drive them to a nice restaurant and pay for the meal, at the very least. Women being women, most of them will not moderate those expectations, even if it really does end up being the case that most men can't afford it. Women will just compete for an ever-shrinking pool of upper and upper-middle class men who can actually afford to treat them the way movies and television and social media tell them they should be treated, and other men will be left to Go Their Own Way regardless of what they want.
Where do you get these ideas? You think the vast majority of women are single, which would be the result if they would only want the top of the top?
I see more broke, unemployed, fat, balding, pathetic losers with than without girlfriends.
Also, demanding that men pay is more of an American thing. In Europe, it is the norm that girls pay half for a date. Regardless, if you can't afford $60 for a date, why would you date to begin with? If they're not desirable, then don't do it.
Where the fuck do you live? And how hard is it to immigrate there?
Where the fuck do you live that the underclass do not breed the most?
Northern/Western Europe. I never said the women were desirable. More desirable than the men, but still not saying much.
If you're a Muslim, very easy.
Classic sales trick. It's like my first car all over again.
I had to save the situation somehow. We have too many immigrants as it is.
Not under 40 I don't, and I live in the same place.
I doubt it.
Most under 40, if they're not hitting all of that, are extremely undesirable.
Yeah I saw this. Apparently they think that they haven't done enough to rig the system in favor of women. The real problem is that only Chads and thots get any utility out of dating apps. Bottom 80% males are wasting their time. The 40% of their userbase that's getting scammed must be finally waking up. The real fun is yet to come. Watch the thots abandon the apps in droves when they run out of betas to con into taking them on foodie dates.
I dunno, maybe that's true now. Back in the late '90s up to about 2010, I used match.com and managed to find and have pretty good relationships with four women over a ten-year period, with one affair being one of the greatest of my life, though I eventually got dumped because she was mercenary like all women and "traded up." I learned that older, divorced women, while really good in bed and usually interesting to talk with after sex, are generally not willing to start from scratch with a man in a lower tax bracket.
I think I removed myself from the dating market at about the right time in 2017.
Match.com had an algorithm that was supposedly tailored to successful long-term relationships, so I wouldn't even put that in the same different category as the dating apps men complain about. But yeah maybe they changed.
All these sites have algorithms that prioritize keeping people on their app and making them money. If the algorithm really did lead to a long term match that's 2 people who aren't doing that. But maybe Match.com is different. LTR = betabux, so non-Chads may have a chance on that app. Not like that ends well, but that's why MGTOW is exploding.
I paid for one month of match premium, found my wife, and quit the site. I think it cost $20.
That was a decade ago though. Who knows what the game is these days.
You might as well complain about 'free entry' for women at bars. Why do you think that is? This is for the same reason. Unless you are going to use Grinder, you want a lot of women to be on your app, not?
I'm not complaining. I'm reporting what the article said and calling it retarded. It isn't shown in the OP but that's exactly what the article said. My point is that the apps' problems stem from the fact that their business model revolves around conning men into playing a rigged game. The model fails when men realize that they're wasting their time and walk away, and that's what's happening here even if they desperately wish it wasn't the case.
Sort of like a microcosm for the dating/marriage scene in general.
Again with your "we".
And no, this is not a report by Match. It's a financial report by someone who says he has no stock interest at all in Match. Do you get anything right?
Shorting companies does not lead to bankruptcy... Do you not know how stocks work?
No comment on the fact that you pretended that this was from the company itself?
Can I short you? I know you're miserable, and that you try very hard to give yourself heart disease. Bad financial decisionmaking should put you in a higher risk for bankruptcy.
For the third time: you're not going to address how you tried to deceive users here into believing that this was actually in a report by Match itself? I thought you ripped it from somewhere, and failed to check as usual, but it looks now that you intentionally tried to deceive people.
I'm going to reply only with the point that you've steadfastly ignored. For the fourth time: how come you deceived users here and then did not even bother to address that you did?
So, The League was a pimping service to connect gold-digging whores with johns?
Hard driving career women want either weak men they can own or a house husband to take care of their crotch fruit, because they have no maternal instincts of their own.
And you have also rendered yourself entirely irrelevant to human society until you die alone and forgotten. Congratulations. A hedonistic, coke-addled musician who can’t figure out how to put on a condom is literally more useful to the world than you are, and will contribute more to the future than you ever will. But at least you won’t get your feelings hurt again, and that’s what’s important.
The reality is that the whole Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) act is little more than gamma posturing. Omegas who have no choice but to go their own way due to social rejection don’t make such a major production of it and are usually quite willing to admit that they are lonely and would prefer that things were otherwise. And most MGTOW will drop the act in a heartbeat if a woman happens to smile at them or say something nice to them, at least until they inevitably say something that causes the smile to vanish from her face and inspires her to flee as quickly as social etiquette permits.
Lifelong loneliness is not a reasonable price to pay for avoiding the occasional rejection by women. And there is no point in pretending you are not lonely, because if you weren’t, you wouldn’t be constantly posting on social media telling strangers how you don’t care what women think about you. And doubling down on the very weirdness that both men and women find off-putting is not something that will increase either your emotional health or your odds of social success.
If your life sucks, then change it. What have you got to lose?
Have you entertained the possibility that they felt their life sucked, that they did change it, and that they are happier now that they've gone their own way?
Perhaps they are quite content to care more about whether they are of use to their own self-benefit rather than whether they are useful to society.
That's not true! You genetic dead ends provide us with a great mount of comic relief.
If you find homosexuals desirable.
Great. Now imagine this, and a vastly, vastly higher rape and murder rate targeted at your gender. That is how women feel towards you. If they hate you, it's justified, or so you so.
A happy state of ignorance is surely preferable to your unhappy state of ignorance.