Gay marriage has never been the will of the people
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I don't think you've met any gay people to verify that.
Married gays and unmarried gays are to wildly different demographics with completely different sexual behaviors.
I think one of the most galling statistics that proves marriage is super useful shows that gay men (not lesbian women) getting married creates social and familial stability, while providing two upwardly mobile income earners to the family unit. Improved health outcomes, financial outcomes, social outcomes, etc. One of the best things a gay man can do is get married.
Lesbians on the other hand? Oof. Not so much. Lesbian marriages basically go sideways because neither party is effectively the primary earner. The benefits of marriage help, but the increase is marginal at best.
Lesbians are just basically domestic violence with extra steps.
Ironically going by the stats it appears to need fewer steps.
I've heard from people I know IRL that many gay men in a marriage or relationship keep some variation of an open relationship. High level of sexual promiscuity. Beats me how accurate that is.
There's the Lesbian Dead Bedroom, and high rates of violence in Lesbian relationships too.
The problem with this kind of statistic is that it's the epitome of correlation != causation, or putting the cart before the horse. It's entirely possible, even likely, that the marriages only "creates" stability in relationships that were already going to be stable to begin with. Unstable gay relationships or gay people with personality types unlikely to lead to stable relationships would never get married to begin with, so it would drastically skew the results of any such surveys.
I'd argue that the results of lesbian marriage support this hypothesis; people are going to be who they're going to be regardless of whether they're married or not.
Well I guess that begs the question, out of the number of gay (not lesbian) relationships out there, how many are stable and how many are the promiscuous type?
A majority of the Cluster B borderline/narcissistic types are women, and I can't imagine what happens when two Cluster B lesbians marry each other, but statistics prove it never ends well.
But for men do we know what the stable vs unstable rates are? For every Dave Rubin (yeah yeah yeah, I know you guys don't like him, bear with me here) how many Carlos Maza types are there?
As an anecdote, there is an extremely high rate of transmittance of monkeypox among gays right now, which gives me the impression that there's way less "stable" relationships and way more open relationships where they're mansluts.
I don't think that having a title causes stable relationships. I think that following the outline of what a "good marriage" is highly beneficial. Obviously marrying your abuser doesn't do anything good, but the point is that when people follow good behaviors, their life tends to dramatically improve. We call that set of good behaviors in a relationship a "marriage".
30% of gay male marriages openly admit to being “open” marriages. Just wait, gay people will be running away from marriage when we stop selling this infantilism.
I don't know that statistic, and don't really trust you for sources.
That’s fine, it’s only a quick look away sweetheart
"Educate yourself!"
And since we have 0 actual data on what happens to kids raised in gay households, that familial stability might be worth dick.
Honestly though, we need to reform marriage moreso than Gays. Civil Unions were a mistake, and they've just made hedonistic lifestyles more prevalent as people don't treat marriage as a sacred institution anymore.
At the first sign the partner is cool, they marry and then 2 months later, at the first sign the partner isn't 100% identical to them, they divorce.
Bring back strong couples who know how to compromise and stay fucking married for their entire lifetime.
No statistical data, but I haven't seen any negative anecdotal data. I'd bet money that marriage as an institution probably has the same positive effect on children in gay parent households, that it would under a straight parent family household. Afterall, marriage seems to have proven it's value as an institution for gays and lesbians as well.
That's fucking silly. You're better off going entirely the other direction and removing the state from relationships altogether. A Civil Union is a sacred as getting a judge to sign your marriage certificate in Las Vegas, because that's all any marriage is to the state. A mechanism to identify how tax and benefit programs should be arranged.
These are purely cultural problems. The state physically can't solve them, as the state can't, and shouldn't* try to solve social or cultural problems. You're gonna need to do the hard work of acculturating people into new behaviors using social pressures and morays, then teaching people why those behaviors are a good idea.
You'll have to have a missionary program in the US to re-civilize the Americans.
"O kind missionary, O compassionate missionary, leave China! come home and convert these Christians!"
The gays have been prog stormtroopers in every other arena, but sure, let them raise children what could go wrong
Not like there's tons of cases of gay couples molesting kids or anything
Queers, not gays. Learn the difference.
I'd rather let kids be raised by Dave Rubin and Andy Ngo, before I'd let kids be raised by most of the heterosexual teachers on Libs of TikTok, or the obvious wine mom on "Red, Wine, and Blue" who sang about "a plan for our world" in celebration of the vaccines.
Gee, I wonder why Media who's all big Gay wouldn't report any negative effects of same sex couple raising children...
The same Media who thinks Drag story times are Family friendly.
No, it's literally true. Divorce rates are through the roof, and the popularity of hook up culture is beyond what has ever been seen before.
that's literally what I said.
I give up, your post gets any better or does it remain defense of hedonistic, LGBT degeneracy and non-family tradition the whole way through ?
I'm not talking about media. I'm saying there's no statistical data in general. How can you have a 40 year study on the effect of gay marriage, when most gay marriages only became legal in the 21st century? I have to use anecdotal data.
I wasn't talking about any of this, I don't think.
Funny, I defended family traditions.