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I hate this. I hate everything about this. (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 3 years ago by CanuckElhead 3 years ago by CanuckElhead +60 / -0
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– dekachin 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

Nah, I don't think a black ancap youtuber with no writing background kickstarting a comic book is going to be the salvation of the comics industry. The odds of him actually launching his own little MCU and it not being dogshit are zero. Not sure why people have been out in force shilling for him so god damn hard this past week. He's not even that big or successful of a youtuber.

Nobody should be giving him their money sight unseen. The product is not released yet. Wait until AFTER it comes out. Dude is just grifting people and trying to monetize them.

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– Guy_Incognito76 29 points 3 years ago +29 / -0

It just shows how much money is being left on the table by Marvel and DC. People are so hungry for non-woke comics they'll take anything.

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– Nikola_S1 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

...except European comics.

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– Kirko 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Which are suffering the same problems as American comics do, your point being?

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– Nikola_S1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I don't see that they are, certainly not to the same extent.

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– raptor_jesus 21 points 3 years ago +21 / -0

Dude's money is where his mouth is. It's not crowdfunding, it's pre-ordering. Also what do you actually even want? If they wrote for DC or Marvel you'd hold that against them. Since he didn't you hold that against him. The indie comic scene is dominated by people outsignalling each other to get picked up by the big 2. He's self-publishing. You're buying or not. Artists, colorist, printers, etc are already paid.

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– TisDaRhythmOfDaNight 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Just because he managed to get a lot of money from consoomers doesn't mean the comics would be any good, that remains to be seen. I've bought (or "acquired") several comicbooks that came out of the anti-woke crowd. To be frank, most of them were pretty shit.

Would I rather read current year Marvel or DC? No, but that's a false dichotomy: there's decades of comics, manga, books or magazines that I could be reading instead. The only disadvantage is that I don't get to support some tradbait based black man. Oh wait, that's not a disadvantage.

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– SparkMandrill83 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Wont know its bad or good until its released. I see zero harm in supporting someone actually making the effort to create something outside the corporate wokespehre. Its not like people are dropping millions of dollars on the thing.

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– TisDaRhythmOfDaNight 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

If you want to support something simply for marketing itself as anti-woke, by all means do so. I'm not saying it's gonna be bad, I'm just saying a lot of the things I've read that came out with this sort of branding tend to be mediocre, so I'm a little wary.

If it's good I'll be happy to support it myself.

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– MattTheBlack 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

No shit motherfucker. Don't pre order and if it's not good then people will stop supporting. Nobody has a gun to your head

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– TisDaRhythmOfDaNight 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

If people are allowed to shill for stuff that hasn't released yet, then I'm going to point out that (in my experience) these things have a bad track record in terms of quality.

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– dekachin 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Dude's money is where his mouth is.

Not when he is asking for money before having a product.

It's not crowdfunding, it's pre-ordering.

It is crowdfunding. It looks and functions exactly like a kickstarter except he is running it through his personal web site. Also there is no such thing as "pre-ordering" a comic book. This isn't a video game which has a huge development cost and DLC. Also, ALL pre-ordering is stupid and wrong, which has been proven in the video game context many times.

Also what do you actually even want?

I don't want my little conservative communities barraged by "rippaverse" shills constantly because some youtuber wants to sell his comic book. I don't want to get barraged by advertisements, and the fact that the product hasn't even been released yet makes it worse. I also am offended by the fact that he is EXPLOITING right wing victim mentality with his bullshit "they tryina censor us!!!" fuck him for that.

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– Assassin47 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

his bullshit "they tryina censor us!!!" fuck him for that

But they literally are? He's persona non grata on the largest comic books subreddit and they ban anyone bringing it up. (ok I know, it's reddit but still)

I've been a fan of his for years (not sure why you're criticizing his youtube channel of all things - he earns enough to make a living from that) and I know there are others here who feel the same, so it's absolutely not your conservative community getting barged by rippaverse shills. We were already with him. Not only through his channel but on The Blaze, Geeks and Gamers, and with his metalcore band. He's been a strong anti-Left culture warrior even if he isn't right-wing himself.

To answer your other comment:

yeah it's the new version of "I voted for Obama so that means I can't be racist"

I can't confirm or deny how much of an effect that had in conservative circles right now, but that doesn't apply to those of us who were already supporting him, or who are just hoping for an alternative to take over the market. I admit there is some satisfaction in completely demolishing the gaslighting of the SJWs who claim we just don't want black characters. (he said the same) I'm happy to at least get issue #1 because his success pisses off the radical left in this space. If it's good I'll keep buying, if it's not I won't.

Overall I'm just not sure why you're shitting on the success of a good man who loves comics book and is an ally against the woke mind virus. Yes it's important to remind people: Buyer beware, caveat emptor and all due diligence should be taken before making any purchase. Everything else you said sounds like sour grapes or ignorance. If it's ignorance, all I can say is it's hard for someone to hide their true self when doing long form radio or podcasting for years. There are tells when someone is grifting. You may not know this man, but we do. I believe that's why his network of followers, friends, and colleagues on YouTube were able to push this campaign to $2.5m with absolutely zero marketing. Not because they see him as a tool to score political points.

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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

But they literally are? He's persona non grata on the largest comic books subreddit and they ban anyone bringing it up. (ok I know, it's reddit but still)

No they are not. Stop lying.

I've been a fan of his for years

Good for you. I'm not. I don't need you advertising his products to me.

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– raptor_jesus 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

You're just as brain damaged as Marvel. You don't know what you're talking about but want to jump in with faux righteous indignation without an understanding of the topic at hand. The Rippaverse isn't some new thing popping out of nowhere, it's been known he's been doing this for months and in the comics space people have been talking about it. It's popping off now because they're about to begin releasing content. The comic is done, it's not crowdfunding. The issue may be that you don't understand the terms you're complaining about. And holy SHIT you prove you don't know what you're talking about when you say there's no pre-ordering a comic book. What the holy hell do you think it is when you go to a store and ask them to order specific titles and hold them for you? Lurk more and learn about how comics work, because you clearly don't understand the industry but want to dictate how it should operate. Your core point is "Stop talking about things I don't like without reading them". That's a terrible point.

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– ParadigmShift2070 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

pop culture consumers desperate to support muh based non-woke negro and show they're not racist

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– Gizortnik 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Good plan: belittle, mock, and deride any anti-Left cultural artifact that exists so you you can keep complaining, rather than actually succeed at anything.

It's amazing how the political right insists on loosing at every turn. I'm not surprised a 90's Democrat like Trump has to teach you fucks how to win.

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– TheModernDaVinci 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

But then they might have to admit the war is winnable, and its their own defeatism that is making them miserable and causing their losses. And then they might actually have to step up and fight, instead of just bitching and moaning about how its all over but the crying. And we cant have that, because its so much easier to just bitch and moan instead of put your nose to the grindstone and fight.

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– Gizortnik 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Half of it is an innate mental failure among the right.

Haidt's concept about how the Left and Right think differently, and the right responds like it is disease-averse, and so tends to isolate itself. Black-pillers do this to an extreme, and Conservatives generally are always more prepared to give ground than to take it.

Meanwhile, the Left live in a complete fucking delusion: Leftist Inevitability Doctrine. There is no circumstance where they will ever accept defeat, even if they have taken 100% losses and total collapse. They are just "on the right side of history", so therefore they will inevitably win, even if they won less today.

It is extremely dangerous to have rightists constantly giving ground, while the leftists constantly set the tempo for the conflict and initiate the fight to take that ground. Again, this is why secession doesn't work. If you're in an entangled gun fight: DON'T LET GO OF THE GUN.

I was listening to Epochs of the Lotus Eaters on: King Æthelstan, and I feel like he hit something similar. The Vikings, who had literally no care for how ruinous they were to the English, kept ravaging every single kingdom on the Isles until even Mercia had fallen and all that was left was Æthelstan in Wessex, simply because it was so far away. Even though he was a Christian, he seemed to be the only Christian in England who realized: "Holy shit, I'm all that's left, and if I fail they'll kill everyone and we will all be slaves (as we pushed the Britons out hundreds of years earlier)."

It's like we are a squadron of Man-At-Arms and every time we see the Vikings, the common retort is: "Well, what if we bribe them? Or run away?"

There's a reason military veterans, particularly marines, appear as activists on the right. They are the only ones who were trained to "Seek out, close with, and destroy the enemy." This is best described by the number of t-shirts displaying the words you see on the bad side of a claymore mine.

The other half of it is that so many young people are so emotionally crippled and terminally online, that they haven't ever been taught the needed emotional stoicism and social intelligence necessary to respond with courage and confidence. They didn't just train boys to be cattle, but cowards.

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– ParadigmShift2070 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

how is buying comics succeding at anything? I don't give a shit about pop cultures and merchs anymore , I just don't.

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– Gizortnik 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Good, then piss off and don't buy it. Stop crying that you saw a black man on a comic book, so the rest of us can actually build a parallel economy.

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– blackestknight 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

For those of us that still do like consuming entertainment, voting with our wallets is the most power we have.

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– MattTheBlack 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Okay and dipshit?? Your personal preferences aren't a litmus test. I'm not super into a bunch of different nerd shit that doesn't mean I'm going to shit on someone for putting their money where their mouth is and attempting to make an independent company

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– dekachin 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

yeah it's the new version of "I voted for Obama so that means I can't be racist"

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– MattTheBlack 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Guy starts independent comics company to at least attempt to do something

Irrelevant faggot complains because jealous

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– dekachin 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

He ain't gonna fuck you, bro.

And the only "something" he is attempting to do, is make himself some money.

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– Adamrises 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

"These people are NotYourShield but they are ours, look at how much better at identity politics we are!"

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– SparkMandrill83 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

I guarantee people are supporting more because hes starting his own non-woke comic than because he's black. Of course you all are so desperate to seem above it all you just assume the dumbest possible motivation

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– blackestknight 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

When you're racist, all you see is race.

I don't really care for Rippaverse, but from all I've seen about it, no one positive about it seems to care he's black. More that he promises non-woke comics.

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– MattTheBlack 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Interesting how nothing I've seen said about it has been to do with identity politics except from people supposedly on the same spectrum as him decrying him for being black.

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– Smith1980 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Which is why I say not to play their games. For instance I love Thomas Sowell because I enjoy his books and have learned a lot. I’ve seen liberals call him an Uncle Tom so trying to play the identity politics game is dumb

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– Smith1980 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Well they shouldn’t just go crazy about him because he is black. Like everyone let them show their worth plus people need to stop worrying about being seen as racist. So sad that the main customers of black race hustlers are white ppl with guilt

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– deleted 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0
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– dekachin 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

something that is literally better than anything else

!!! it's not even out yet. You have no idea if it's any good at all.

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– blackestknight 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Manga is pretty dope. Just read manga.

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– MattTheBlack 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Why not both? It's not an either or retard

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– blackestknight 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It's pretty either or these days. DC, Marvel and Image are junk, Valiant can't keep a storyline going for more than 3 issues and reboots titles constantly.

Western comics are pretty trash. Manga is pretty much the last bastion of good storytelling and that's why you start seeing woke infiltration into it and anime now.

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– blackestknight 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Not sure why people have been out in force shilling for him

Because most people who grew up on the 80s and 90s comics want that shit back over the crappy shit we have now. Clone Spider-Man might have been a bad storyline, but it had nothing on Bi-Son-of-Kalel-saving-the-world-one-dick-sucking-at-a-time.

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