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– xleb2 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I am in favor of life.

I am not in favor of criminalizing doctors or women.

We need to find better ground for dealing with unwanted pregnancies than just throwing the issue into the criminal justice system to deal with. That's a crazy approach, it's been done, and it's a disaster that just creates new classes of criminals but doesn't fix any of the bottom-line problems.

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– Lurker404 29 points 4 years ago +29 / -0

criminalizing doctors

Meh, after the Wu Flu pandemic I say toss them in jail.

Most of them are all too happy to ignore side effects and take that sweet sweet government money to push the mrna vax. They're glorified whores, except they get paid to fuck others.

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– deleted 23 points 4 years ago +23 / -0
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– xleb2 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I don't generally get into internet sniping contests, but you're being an ass.

Nothing about my statements were screaming obsessions. I'm making the case that the fix for unwanted pregnancies is not criminal felonious charges. And if you think that turning women and doctors into criminals because they are facing an unwanted pregnancy - that's saying exactly the same as vaccine objectors and their doctors should be criminalized for failing to uphold government edicts.

My stance is that unwanted pregnancies are NOT a government or criminal problem - they are a human problem. The criminal justice system cannot solve human problems.

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– acp_k2win 20 points 4 years ago +20 / -0

unwanted pregnancies

Why does it matter whether or not a pregnancy is "wanted"?

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– WeedleTLiar 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

What case are you making other than "it doesn't work because I said so"?

Something like 90% of abortions are because of social or economic reasons, ie the woman didn't feel like it. That's the percentage of frivolous abortions that could be prevented by placing the minimum amount of repercussions on women.

that's saying exactly the same as vaccine objectors and their doctors should be criminalized for failing to uphold government edicts.

You think legally forcing a dangerous procedure on people is the same as legally preventing a deadly (be design) procedure? WTF?

And, of course, you don't mention fathers at all. Cause it's not even just a matter of the child being involved in the mother's decision, it's also the child's father.

The current system provides absolutely no recourse to father's to protect their children and allows unscrupulous women (ie the kind who would get an abortion) to blackmail their partners with threats of baby murder. And we wonder why there's a fatherhood crisis.

As far as I can see, removing this special exception for murder is already working: thousands of women are going on "sex strikes" and demanding monogamous marriage, and that's without laws even being enforced.

I agree that states could potentially make bad laws but the point is they can make the laws. If the laws are bad where you are, move. If the laws are ineffective, we'll see that pretty quickly, compared to other states.

As for the "bottom-line problems" you mention (but never outline), those can't even be addressed until abortion is illegal because the practice of killing babies hides those problems.

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– MattTheBlack 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Abortions are dangerous for women even when done by doctors never mind that Abortion is 99% dangerous for babies

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– blackestknight 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

I'm making the case that the fix for unwanted pregnancies is not criminal

No, it's a 10$ box of condoms.

Not killing a baby.

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– acp_k2win 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

No, it's a 10$ box of condoms.

Its keeping legs closed until marriage.

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– ImThrowing4U 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

"unwanted"

if it was unwanted you should have either abstained or taken every precaution possible and be responsible about how you do it. The facts don't lie, and the facts say if women take their birth control how they should and if men don't bust a fatty inside her, there should be less than 1% chance of pregnancy.

But women don't take their BC on time, they don't even take it regularly, and some men who claim to not want kids are still raw dogging and busting fatties in whores they don't even like enough to have a kid with.

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– Benevolentdictator 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Prosecuting doctors who perform abortions is how Canada got its abortion laws struck down by the Supreme Court and were left with no restrictions whatsoever because politicians were too cowardly to go back in and write legislation that was more permissive to coincide with the Court's ruling.

It also made Henry Morgentaler, the doctor they tried to prosecute, into a martyr and a national icon of sorts.

Long after his death, the abortion clinics here still bear his name.

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– novanleon 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

That's not justification for anything.

Just because "bad people" do bad things to "good people" when they resist, doesn't mean "good people" shouldn't resist. It just means "good people" should try harder. It means "good people" should rise up and crush the "bad people" and put in place a government that does good.

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– blackestknight 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Prosecuting doctors who perform abortions is how Canada got its abortion laws struck down by the Supreme Court and were left with no restrictions whatsoever because politicians were too cowardly to go back in and write legislation that was more permissive to coincide with the Court's ruling.

Actually, the court stuck down the law because it failed to define when life started. Failures of Conservatives refused to redraft the law with a definition for start of life. They could have easily gone with "Fetal heartbeat" or "Conception" or anything else. But they just left it up in the air, and now Canada has abortion up to the point where the baby is half out of the vagina.

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– acp_k2win 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

I am not in favor of criminalizing doctors or women.

Law enforcement is not "criminalizing", which is a fake word subversives have snuck into the vocabulary to further undermine lawful authority.

If there are laws against killing babies then the people who participate in that action are criminals. How else would you describe them?

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– WeedleTLiar 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

unwanted pregnancies are NOT a government or criminal problem - they are a human problem

How's this for subversive statement?

How can I say nothing at all while seeming to hold the moral high ground?

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– novanleon 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The truth is so simple but they hate the truth, so they need to bend and twist words in order to obfuscate and hide it.

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– MegoThor 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Murderers deserve death.

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– blackestknight 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

I am not in favor of criminalizing doctors or women.

Maybe we should also let murderers off the hook while we're at it.

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