A famous conservative once said that polls are for shaping public opinion, not measuring it. I think he was absolutely correct. The pollsters can use all sorts of methods to get the result they want, and people have a bias towards joining the majority opinion, so all you need to do is show people a poll that says the majority agree with X and people are more inclined to agree with X.
It also makes people feel isolated and alone. People watching TV that are against current thing see a poll that 88% of people are for current thing and they feel too overwhelmed to speak out, even to friends and family.
Social media platform is a similar concept but weaponized even further via massive bot farms that parrot THE MESSAGE and shame anyone who dares to speak up, creating a culture of compliance.
'& her doctor' automatically implies some kind of medical necessity (edit: AND implies a sensible, rational decision making process involving an authority figure)
Having no middle ground between 'all or most cases legal' and 'all or most cases illegal' means a lot of moderates who prefer limited abortion had to choose 'all or most cases legal'
'& her doctor' automatically implies some kind of medical necessity (edit: AND implies a sensible, rational decision making process involving an authority figure)
They are invoking authority but not heeding it. MOST doctors, even or especially the ones that are qualified, would refuse to perform an abortion. They want to doctor shop and then claim doctor approval. Which you can do for almost anything. Doesn't make it right.
Yeah, I'm saying they're manipulating the polls (as always) by asking leading questions. They ask 'shouldn't it be between a woman and her doctor' (which implies a medical need and wise, expert oversight) to make it sound reasonable, then they use the poll numbers to advance their real position, which is 'a woman should able to get an abortion whenever she wants'
If they'd been honest and asked 'shouldn't a woman be able to get a abortion whenever she wants?', or maybe 'shouldn't abortions be conveniently accessible?' the numbers would be different. But now the talking point is '75% of people disagree with the supreme court's decision, they're going against the will of the overwhelming majority'
Oh, yeah, I agree about that. I answer a lot of polls I guess because I answer random calls to my work number that gets forwarded to my cell phone (it's rarely business, but one can hope). They have an annoying way of asking questions.
The vast majority of people, when actually pushed to specify where they would accept an abortion, would make it illegal after 3 months. Something like 80% of the population opposes the actual results of abortion "on demand".
Also, there are few countries where it is legal after 12 weeks -- precisely the line Mississippi was asking for. Not that popular makes right. I'm just reinforcing the argument that abortion as performed, for instance and until recently, in California is not very popular in the rest of the world, either.
The line that California is taking isn't popular with anyone, even in the west.
The line that Tennessee is taking would be considered morally abhorrent to the rest of the world, because they'd rather see the women and men arrested.
This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by landline and cellular telephone April 24-28, 2022, in English and Spanish, among a random national sample of 1,004 adults. Results have a margin of sampling error of 3.5 percentage points, including the design effect. Partisan divisions are 29-25-40%, Democrats-Republicans-independents.
Nice, 1000 random people on the phone across 4 days, and 70% Dems/Independents out of that 1000, super useful information as usual.
Can you redpill me on what it actually entails? I want to be able to viscerally describe the acts of abortion to pro-choice people. Much like how Hitler would describe the slaughter of animals to friends at dinner to dissuade them from eating meat.
I like how abortions are either regulated or decided by just the woman (no man included in either case) and her doctor. This means that either there are legals restrictions of some kind, or it's Bizzaro Ancapistan Abortions.
Abort a 12 year old? Well, yeah, I wouldn't want to get in-between woman and her doctor.
Polls are fake and gay.
Brilliant clip.
A famous conservative once said that polls are for shaping public opinion, not measuring it. I think he was absolutely correct. The pollsters can use all sorts of methods to get the result they want, and people have a bias towards joining the majority opinion, so all you need to do is show people a poll that says the majority agree with X and people are more inclined to agree with X.
It also makes people feel isolated and alone. People watching TV that are against current thing see a poll that 88% of people are for current thing and they feel too overwhelmed to speak out, even to friends and family.
I remember someone saying that "Propagnda isn't for making you think you're wrong, but alone".
Social media platform is a similar concept but weaponized even further via massive bot farms that parrot THE MESSAGE and shame anyone who dares to speak up, creating a culture of compliance.
100%
There may be no better way to suppress rebellion than to destroy the morale of a population.
They also don't matter. Most people are retarded or brainwashed or both. We don't need to seek anybody's approval. Especially not in this gay country.
'& her doctor' automatically implies some kind of medical necessity (edit: AND implies a sensible, rational decision making process involving an authority figure)
Having no middle ground between 'all or most cases legal' and 'all or most cases illegal' means a lot of moderates who prefer limited abortion had to choose 'all or most cases legal'
They are invoking authority but not heeding it. MOST doctors, even or especially the ones that are qualified, would refuse to perform an abortion. They want to doctor shop and then claim doctor approval. Which you can do for almost anything. Doesn't make it right.
Yeah, I'm saying they're manipulating the polls (as always) by asking leading questions. They ask 'shouldn't it be between a woman and her doctor' (which implies a medical need and wise, expert oversight) to make it sound reasonable, then they use the poll numbers to advance their real position, which is 'a woman should able to get an abortion whenever she wants'
If they'd been honest and asked 'shouldn't a woman be able to get a abortion whenever she wants?', or maybe 'shouldn't abortions be conveniently accessible?' the numbers would be different. But now the talking point is '75% of people disagree with the supreme court's decision, they're going against the will of the overwhelming majority'
Dishonesty.
Oh, yeah, I agree about that. I answer a lot of polls I guess because I answer random calls to my work number that gets forwarded to my cell phone (it's rarely business, but one can hope). They have an annoying way of asking questions.
That's why they didn't ;)
The vast majority of people, when actually pushed to specify where they would accept an abortion, would make it illegal after 3 months. Something like 80% of the population opposes the actual results of abortion "on demand".
Also, there are few countries where it is legal after 12 weeks -- precisely the line Mississippi was asking for. Not that popular makes right. I'm just reinforcing the argument that abortion as performed, for instance and until recently, in California is not very popular in the rest of the world, either.
The line that California is taking isn't popular with anyone, even in the west.
The line that Tennessee is taking would be considered morally abhorrent to the rest of the world, because they'd rather see the women and men arrested.
Nice, 1000 random people on the phone across 4 days, and 70% Dems/Independents out of that 1000, super useful information as usual.
I just assume that the "polls" are either entirely fictitious or easily skewed by region targeting.
That and I cant imagine the average conservative going around answering random polls.
Most "pro-choice" people become pro life if they find out what abortion actually entails.
Can you redpill me on what it actually entails? I want to be able to viscerally describe the acts of abortion to pro-choice people. Much like how Hitler would describe the slaughter of animals to friends at dinner to dissuade them from eating meat.
They use pliars to rip the unborn child out of the womb in little pieces after poisoning it.
Meanwhile in an establishment GOP's office:
"My God! Look at this poll! Quick! Impeach Justice Thomas and make a formal apology! We can't afford to lose the support of ABC News watchers!"
I like how abortions are either regulated or decided by just the woman (no man included in either case) and her doctor. This means that either there are legals restrictions of some kind, or it's Bizzaro Ancapistan Abortions.
Abort a 12 year old? Well, yeah, I wouldn't want to get in-between woman and her doctor.