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Hey AntonioOfVenice, people on reddit asking why you got suspended
posted 4 years ago by dekachin 4 years ago by dekachin +21 / -0

https://www.reddit.com/r/kotakuinaction2/comments/v5m8lo/antonioofvenice_suspended_what_happened_this_time/

So what happened? Why didn't you make a new username and go back like I've done like 20 times?

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– AntonioOfVenice 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

So what happened?

They just permanently banned me without giving a reason. Yes, they still call a permanent ban a 'suspension'.

Why didn't you make a new username and go back like I've done like 20 times?

Haven't really felt the need to go to Reddit. And if I do it as openly as you do, they may retaliate against the sub.

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– dekachin [S] 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

if I do it as openly as you do, they may retaliate against the sub.

Just be sneaky. Make your next name "NotAntonioOfVenice"

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– covok48 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Right there with you. The real question is why aren’t you a mod here anymore?

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– altmehere 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

They just permanently banned me without giving a reason.

Haven't really felt the need to go to Reddit.

Out of curiosity, when was the last time you posted on Reddit?

If they just banned you out of the blue with no reason when you haven't posted in a while, my first thought would be that they're preparing to move against the sub.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

No, I had posted, but most of it was just related to moderation. I also posted my content there (and sometimes dragged myself into conversations). I did think they were planning to move against the sub, but since several months have passed without anything happening, I think we're somewhat in the clear.

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– dekachin [S] 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

The sub is private and I think ironically, the admin changes to the block function saved the sub.

I block all my haters, and guess what? I don't get reported anymore. Remember how I used to get banned once every couple weeks? and reported constantly? It hasn't happened at all since I started blocking haters.

IMO there were just a few subversive haters in the sub who were spamming admin reports on lots of stuff trying to goad the admins into harassing the sub. AFAIK the sub is getting a lot less admin attention.

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– AntonioOfVenice 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I don't recall the reports, possibly because your haters were banned for following you from other subs (which prevents their reports from coming through).

Before I got banned, the number of comments nuked by the admins was crazy, even when we were private. They're really working on that automatic stuff.

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– MattTheBlack 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah you were one of the victims of the mod bam wave for wrong think

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Was it a wave? I've heard of only one other person who was banned. What do you know about this?

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– send_it 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

oh no, all that cuntlicking on reddit didn't save him?

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– AntonioOfVenice 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

The point was to save the sub, so I'm still happy.

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– dekachin [S] 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I just want to point out how many times they suspended me, all for nothing:

https://www.reddit.com/user/pewpsprinkler

https://www.reddit.com/user/pewpsprinkler2

https://www.reddit.com/user/pewpsprinkler3

https://www.reddit.com/user/pewpsprinkler4

https://www.reddit.com/user/pewpsprinkler5

https://www.reddit.com/user/dekachinn

https://www.reddit.com/user/dekachin2

https://www.reddit.com/user/dekachin3

https://www.reddit.com/user/dekachin4

https://www.reddit.com/user/dekachin5

https://www.reddit.com/user/dekachin6

https://www.reddit.com/user/dekachin7

https://www.reddit.com/user/mankosmasher

https://www.reddit.com/user/mankosmasher3

https://www.reddit.com/user/mankosmasher4

https://www.reddit.com/user/mankosmasher5

https://www.reddit.com/user/mankosmash

https://www.reddit.com/user/mankosmash2

https://www.reddit.com/user/mankosmash3

https://www.reddit.com/user/mankosmash5

https://www.reddit.com/user/mankosmash6

https://www.reddit.com/user/mankosmash8

mankosmash4 and 7 are still up. I'm about ready to jump to a new name if those two get suspended. They've suspended 4 a bunch of times in the past year but I always got it reversed on appeal.

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– blackestknight 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

So on top of disrupting conversation by abusing the block feature, you're a ban evader.

Figures.

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– AntonioOfVenice 26 points 4 years ago +26 / -0

There is no reason for any user not to evade bans imposed by the admins, since they are imposed so frivolously.

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– blackestknight 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Then I guess you won't mind if I create another account to evade his block of my account that prevents me from replying to half the threads on reddit.

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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

That would be OK regardless of anything else. If you're not banned, it's not ban evasion to begin with. Even for our own bans, generally we only nailed truly bad actors for ban evasion.

But in my opinion, that is breaking the sub, and you should contact the moderators about it. I thought it had been resolved when I looked into it, but apparently not.

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– blackestknight 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Until Manko stops lying about me and others he blocked and unblocks us, this won't resolve itself.

All because he's gone full MSDNC about Ukraine and hates others calling him out on it.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Until Manko stops lying about me and others he blocked and unblocks us, this won't resolve itself.

Some of them no doubt deserve to be blocked. But I agree with you that given this effect, it is not be allowed to block members in good standing, as you are.

All because he's gone full MSDNC about Ukraine and hates others calling him out on it.

He has not gone full MSNDC, he just disagrees with you (and me).

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– Hand_Of_Node 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Except there's no reason for any decent human to support reddit with content.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

Meh, I don't see a problem with evading bans that weren't imposed in good faith.

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– blackestknight 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Seeing how he blocks people that dare challenge him on his positions to prevent them from replying, then slanders them as "Russian bots" all the time, I think his bans were in good faith. He's just an agitator and he's not engaging in the sub in good faith.

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– MattTheBlack 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

You're doing the same shit lmao and you're simping for reddit admins

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– blackestknight 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

No, I'm pointing out that a user is actively disrupting discussion in the sub, abusing Admin provided features using blocks to block out anyone that points out the flaw in his argument.

Fuck the admins for implementing that stupid feature (block should just hide posts from users you don't want to see, not prevent them from discussing out in the open with others in threads and sub threads) and fuck that guy for evading bans and then abusing the block feature to stiffle discussion.

You're simping for the guy.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

and fuck that guy for evading bans

No. Just because you do not like him, does not mean that everything he does is wrong.

and then abusing the block feature to stiffle discussion.

This is a valid criticism.

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– deleted 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0
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– deleted 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0
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– blackestknight 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Ignoring the rules when they are capriciously enforced is only natural.

Mankosmash creates his own echo chambers though. He abuses Reddit's "Can't respond if you're blocked" feature to stiffle any responses that challenge his often flawed and very MSDNC fueled opinions.

He ignores the rules for himself, but makes sure no one else can participate.

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– MetalGearMk4 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Make your name AntonioOfPenice

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– Erithal 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

How about AntonioOfPennance? Or AntonioOfPrepuce?

So many nifty choices!

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

How exactly do you appeal? Just through the normal appeals process? Because all I got for my appeal was a summary denial. It asks how you 'did not violate the rules', when my ban message did not specify any comment like yours apparently do.

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– dekachin [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Just this: https://www.reddit.com/appeals

If it doesn't state a message, I would just say "no reason was given for my ban. I diligently follow all rules. Please let me know what the problem is, as I never knowingly violated any part of the Content Policy"

The ban is supposed to at least say what rule you violated, like "hate" or "violence" or whatever.

I wouldn't be surprised if some admin with a UKR flag twitter banned you over one of your Ukraine posts and wrote up some bullshit on the internal note.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

If it doesn't state a message, I would just say "no reason was given for my ban. I diligently follow all rules. Please let me know what the problem is, as I never knowingly violated any part of the Content Policy"

Ah, that's a good one.

The ban is supposed to at least say what rule you violated, like "hate" or "violence" or whatever.

LOL, it did not even do that. This is what it said:

Your account has been permanently suspended for breaking the rules.

Your account has been permanently suspended for continual involvement in site wide content policy violations both as a user and mod.

I wouldn't be surprised if some admin with a UKR flag twitter banned you over one of your Ukraine posts and wrote up some bullshit on the internal note.

I had that same suspicion, as that was the only remotely controversial thing that I had posted in the period before - since everything else controversial had already been banned by the admins.

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– dekachin [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Your account has been permanently suspended for continual involvement in site wide content policy violations both as a user and mod.

You 100% got banned as punishment for some tranny in san francisco hating on KIA2. Shim/Xer outright told you that you were being given collective punishment for KIA2 itself. They did it as a way to try to kill the sub with death by 1,000 cuts. They are probably experimenting with seeing if they cut the top mod off the sub, if they'll get even more moderation problems and then they ban Dom next, and kill the sub.

If you have a VPN, just come back incognito and see how it is. AFAIK things have calmed down a lot.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

We have some failslafe mechanisms if they start beheading moderators one after another. Because they have been known to ban the moderators and then ban the sub for being 'unmoderated'. There are several moderators who are just there as insurance, in case something bad happens.

The irony of the tranny thing is that we have absolutely crazy rules regarding that most sacred of classes. And still they're mad. But at least they did not have an excuse to ban the sub.

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– dekachin [S] 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

We have some failslafe mechanisms if they start beheading moderators one after another. Because they have been known to ban the moderators and then ban the sub for being 'unmoderated'. There are several moderators who are just there as insurance, in case something bad happens.

FYI I used this tactic in case the mods ban all "visible" mods on a sub to keep it alive:

Have accounts where you send out mod invites to those accounts, but don't accept. Then, if the visible mods get banned, log onto the backup accounts, accept the mod invite to become a mod, then send out new invites to new backup accounts in case you get banned. AFAIK the admins can't see "pending invites" but maybe they can, I assume they can't.

The irony of the tranny thing is that we have absolutely crazy rules regarding that most sacred of classes. And still they're mad. But at least they did not have an excuse to ban the sub.

Yeah it's hilarious that I can say tranny here, because it would be auto-nuke on your account if you tried to say it anywhere on reddit. Just a few years ago you used to be able to say tranny with no issues.

Back when I was on wallstreetbets in 2017, people were calling each other faggots CONSTANTLY. One of the major high risk options bets people used and still use are called "faggot's delights" The whole english language got locked down just in the last 5 years, thanks to this total leftist control of social media platforms.

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0
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– dekachin [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Pretty much all of my bans are from posting in the big liberal subs on Reddit, mods in those subs getting angry over me writing conservative-minded comments that got upvoted/awarded, and then trying to the admins to suspend me for "hate".

One of my suspensions was because I said that birthright citizenship was bad, so that was called "hate speech".

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0
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– Kienan 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Right? I feel kind of cheated. I get moderately spicy at times, and the worst I've had is a few automated admin warnings. Never been suspended or banned.

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– realerfunction 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

i started getting bans shortly before the pedo tranny was outed.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Our best user was banned for a comment about that pedo tranny. Was never unbanned.

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– NoEyesNoGroin 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Protip: If you use a VM and install the most common browser config and just revert to that when you get banned, they won't be able to find your dupes so quickly. They use OS/browser fingerprinting to track banned accounts even if you delete cookies or install a new browser. They usually don't do anything if you create another account, but they know it's a dupe. The only time you'll see the fingerprinting in action is when they "super ban" you, which will immediately ban you again when you comment again in the sub you were super-banned from.

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– dekachin [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Early on, they didn't bother tracking down my alts. After they did a couple mass ban waves, I learned all the rules to not get caught:

  1. your browser session is fingerprinted, so you can't swap accounts in the same browser session. you need to switch browsers or close out your session and start a new incognito/private one whenever you switch accounts.

  2. Your IP is also tracked to your account, so you need to use a VPN to switch your IP address whenever you swap accounts.

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– NoEyesNoGroin 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Browser/OS fingerprinting can still track you even between browser profiles unless you use a very common browser config/resolution/etc. There are programs that can mask the fingerprints but the only good ones cost money.

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– dekachin [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Reddit relies on automated systems. They aren't going to do a forensic examination of your browser profile, and I don't think they save all that info anyway.

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