As a reminder, before this shitshow, the Ukrainians treated my fellow Hungarians as shit. They weren't allowed to get an education in their own language, even though they got handed over to Ukraine after Trianon. Those people did not move, the borders around them did.
We still accepted the most refugees. And that fucking actor plant Zelensky STILL snarls and demands we join HIS war or else we are shitty people.
So yeah, I am absolutely not under the illusion Ukraine is some totally innocent place of nothing but angels. I don't wish ill on the normie little people, I just can't help feeling like this whole situation is a big fucking fake.
The Americans routinely photographed (and even biometrics scanned) every enemy body in Afghanistan during the 2010s for identification purposes including return for burial. Bad guys, am I right.
We absolutely did that because it helped us map out the social networks of insurgent and terrorist organizations, and also link previous attacks to their specific units/groups.
You don't need to do that with a conventional military because they have an explicit organization.
Moreover, if you do get biometric data, you collect it for intelligence purposes. You don't send it to families. That's fucked up. Especially in a conventional war where soldiers are just normal volunteers, not ideologically possessed psychopaths. Those families didn't do anything to deserve that.
And after the period of initial confusion, the Russians have already turned into "ideologically possessed psychopaths". Look what they do with civilians in occupied areas, and also with civilian bodies (including hiding, burning, or booby trapping them, if not just leaving them where they died).
One of the things that did help to end the "first" Chechen war special military operation were these expeditions of Russian prematurely aged mother's going in to search for their dead or captured sons. They turned into quite a movement.
Speaking of which, certainly see the documentary "The Betrayed" (1995), which is amazing and one of the best war films of all time. It's the early months. https://youtube.com/watch?v=3bHQujjarpc
I seriously doubt the enemy sending graphic photos of their dead sons would help end the war, and would far more likely inspire ethnic reprisal attacks in Russia against Ukrainians.
It's not going to be taken like the American Civil War's pictures of battle dead, or flag draped coffins coming back from Vietnam. It's going to be seen as explicit enemy action that is a direct attack on the general population.
If you do that to a population, they start calling for blood.
Also, YouTube fucking age-restricted nonsense. I seriously wanna just start uploading some of this shit to Bitchute so we can reference it.
Bold assumption. They could have easily been planning to return and secure their bodies, or in some situations were simply unable to do so because it would be too dangerous.
They weren't "well preserved" at all of course, that's some kind of an obvious mistake in the caption. I've seen the inside. And yes, it was their own train.
They left them littering in the areas they controllec and I talk about corpses that weren't even new. Victims of artillery fire or drones.
In 1996 they just left behind an entire train full of their bodies while withdrawing orderly after ceasefire. By the time when they returned in 2000 it was a literal skeleton train. There are pictures.
But you know what, maybe really they should just let all these Russians rot where their comrades left them behind, kick them into a trench at most. You're right guys. This is not a dead paratrooper storage.
Especially since some of them were even booby trapped by their own side.
Another funny thing is that this practice was started by the seps in 2014. And I actually thought it's humane.
Nigger, there's a difference between sifting through the ashes to find out who died and how, and sending pictures of mutilated corpses to random old women.
A super funny thing is when I wrote about how there was nothing wrong with this practice by the seps in the summer of 2014 (they were calling mothers with phones taken from the soldiers bodies) I received e-threats for this from some mega angery Ukrainians.
They've been doing this since the start of the conflict.
It sounds crazy, but many Russian soldiers carried their civilian cell phones into Ukraine, probably not understanding that this was giving their position away to the Ukranian cell towers.
Ukrainians would then kill these soldiers, find their phones on their bodies, and then use the phone contacts to send photographs to the family.
It's not new, they always use cell phones, also "even" officers for battlefield comms.
What the Russian military quite successfully cracked on is soldiers taking selfies everywhere to post in VKontakte as there's remarkably little of it going on.
Some/many units also even execute every Ukrainian civilian caught taking photos of their positions of they're caught with such photos on their phones to keep opsec and don't get arty on their location. It's not a paranoia from their side because it's how it works actually.
You know what the Americans were doing with enemy bodies in WWII? Sending body parts home. To their own families. Skulls especially. Celebrated in newspapers. Gifted to the president.
Now you lecture "barbarians" from your high horses for taking photos.
So how much was sending home the enemy body parts as trophies a "serial killer psychopath shit" (quote) when it was celebrated in America, vs taking and sending photos of leftover garbage already littering their homes and backyards? On the scale 1 to 10, respectively.
As a side note, Immigration Watch Canada notes that the whole "multicultural mosaic" nonsense that was brought in in the 1970s under PET was the fault of the Ukranians in the first place; it wasn't good enough that the schoolbooks of the time helped spread the lie that everyone but Ukranians were too incompetent to break virgin prairie sod ....
(But the pakis did triple down on that shit with the Singh Decision; PET apologists like to claim that he had no idea or intention for the concept of "multiculturalism" to spread beyond European cultures.)
My only interest in this conflict is nuclear. One of these dumb fucks is going to bring that shit into play, I just know it.
Thought this was a big ghoulish, Pizza Supreme made a good point. Then I remembered I don't give a shit and hope they eat each other when the bullets run out and winter sets in again.
The Afghan family villagers would then come and scoop up these dudes, who have been shredded up by the direct hits from the Apache 30 mm HE, with their own hands, to bury them.
After the final Taliban offensive one of the issues troubling the Afghans is that hundreds (thousand) of government troops have disappeared in that no one knows where they died exactly and couldn't be buried. Often on the other side of the country. It's because the Tali didn't care to try and identify them, but sometimes actually did help the families to try and check the bodies. And they're looking for them. https://archive.ph/uPNSr
You have in the article how they don't even believe photos, they wouldn't believe a simple message.
Now, the Russian population is has seen also some serious societial shift in Russia. When in Chechnya you had all these caravans of mothers (NOT fathers, no) coming in form Russia to check even the unidentified bodies in storage trains (some of which were refrigated, others not), now here you have the Russian POWs POSMOs directly phoning their mothers (again, not fathers) to take their sons home and the mothers don't really care. And don't come.
But you probably don't even know about anything I talk about.
I'm a Caucasoid (albeit not a Caucasian), thank you.
The Russians are burning civilian corpses or booby trapping them (along with booby trapping everything), but the real (and only) outrage here is someone's been documenting their own bodies they also leave behind while withdrawing.
With no one even commenting on the part where they're also identifying the live Russians recorded looting by security cameras.
Do you know that in Chechnya they literally traded corpses? Selling them to the other side, for money. Civilian corpses too. That's the Russian attitudes to dead bodies.
As a reminder, before this shitshow, the Ukrainians treated my fellow Hungarians as shit. They weren't allowed to get an education in their own language, even though they got handed over to Ukraine after Trianon. Those people did not move, the borders around them did.
We still accepted the most refugees. And that fucking actor plant Zelensky STILL snarls and demands we join HIS war or else we are shitty people.
So yeah, I am absolutely not under the illusion Ukraine is some totally innocent place of nothing but angels. I don't wish ill on the normie little people, I just can't help feeling like this whole situation is a big fucking fake.
Let the Hungar games begin!
You... I like you. This was the most creative pun with my country's name since JLongbone claimed it was named after a hung guy called Gary.
Nothing to do with Jews or Israel in the title. He's not even going to open the thread.
Hi!
He's not Polish, so let me say this is awesome lol
As usual the MSM is supporting what are clearly the bad guys.
The Americans routinely photographed (and even biometrics scanned) every enemy body in Afghanistan during the 2010s for identification purposes including return for burial. Bad guys, am I right.
We absolutely did that because it helped us map out the social networks of insurgent and terrorist organizations, and also link previous attacks to their specific units/groups.
You don't need to do that with a conventional military because they have an explicit organization.
Moreover, if you do get biometric data, you collect it for intelligence purposes. You don't send it to families. That's fucked up. Especially in a conventional war where soldiers are just normal volunteers, not ideologically possessed psychopaths. Those families didn't do anything to deserve that.
https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/15HbWpErFx/x/c/4OXFbkPB4vV
And after the period of initial confusion, the Russians have already turned into "ideologically possessed psychopaths". Look what they do with civilians in occupied areas, and also with civilian bodies (including hiding, burning, or booby trapping them, if not just leaving them where they died).
You still don't send pictures of dead son's to families. You're engaging in whataboutism and you know it.
Yes, ZOG is indeed the bad guys.
Is that why they paint Z everywhere?
Russians: Leave their dead to fucking rot.
Ukrainians: Taking pictures and letting the family know what have happened to Vanya who didn't call in a while.
Winredditrors: WAR CRIMES????
(It's not a war, it's a special military operation.)
It's not a war crime, but it's very messed up, and it's not going to end the war.
One of the things that did help to end the "first" Chechen
warspecial military operation were these expeditions of Russian prematurely aged mother's going in to search for their dead or captured sons. They turned into quite a movement.Speaking of which, certainly see the documentary "The Betrayed" (1995), which is amazing and one of the best war films of all time. It's the early months. https://youtube.com/watch?v=3bHQujjarpc
I seriously doubt the enemy sending graphic photos of their dead sons would help end the war, and would far more likely inspire ethnic reprisal attacks in Russia against Ukrainians.
It's not going to be taken like the American Civil War's pictures of battle dead, or flag draped coffins coming back from Vietnam. It's going to be seen as explicit enemy action that is a direct attack on the general population.
If you do that to a population, they start calling for blood.
Also, YouTube fucking age-restricted nonsense. I seriously wanna just start uploading some of this shit to Bitchute so we can reference it.
Ukrainians: SBU openly torturing political prisoners and bragging about it.
Bold assumption. They could have easily been planning to return and secure their bodies, or in some situations were simply unable to do so because it would be too dangerous.
This train: https://www.gettyimages.ie/detail/news-photo/railway-cars-containing-decomposed-bodies-were-found-by-news-photo/1592238
They weren't "well preserved" at all of course, that's some kind of an obvious mistake in the caption. I've seen the inside. And yes, it was their own train.
They left them littering in the areas they controllec and I talk about corpses that weren't even new. Victims of artillery fire or drones.
In 1996 they just left behind an entire train full of their bodies while withdrawing orderly after ceasefire. By the time when they returned in 2000 it was a literal skeleton train. There are pictures.
Hi^2!
Ahh yes, because that is what the valiant heroic good guys do.
Russians are slavic pieces of shit, but it's not like the Ukrainians are any better.
https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/15HbWpErFx/x/c/4OXFbfjgh5t
But you know what, maybe really they should just let all these Russians rot where their comrades left them behind, kick them into a trench at most. You're right guys. This is not a dead paratrooper storage.
Especially since some of them were even booby trapped by their own side.
Another funny thing is that this practice was started by the seps in 2014. And I actually thought it's humane.
Nigger, there's a difference between sifting through the ashes to find out who died and how, and sending pictures of mutilated corpses to random old women.
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I need a bit more information than to say that SupremeReader is spreading knowingly false material.
A super funny thing is when I wrote about how there was nothing wrong with this practice by the seps in the summer of 2014 (they were calling mothers with phones taken from the soldiers bodies) I received e-threats for this from some mega angery Ukrainians.
That's because it was still wrong.
They've been doing this since the start of the conflict.
It sounds crazy, but many Russian soldiers carried their civilian cell phones into Ukraine, probably not understanding that this was giving their position away to the Ukranian cell towers.
Ukrainians would then kill these soldiers, find their phones on their bodies, and then use the phone contacts to send photographs to the family.
It's not new, they always use cell phones, also "even" officers for battlefield comms.
What the Russian military quite successfully cracked on is soldiers taking selfies everywhere to post in VKontakte as there's remarkably little of it going on.
Some/many units also even execute every Ukrainian civilian caught taking photos of their positions of they're caught with such photos on their phones to keep opsec and don't get arty on their location. It's not a paranoia from their side because it's how it works actually.
This is some fucking serial killer psychopath shit right here.
https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/15HbWpErFx/x/c/4OXFbfjgh5t
I seem to have missed the part where the US sent messages to parents that basically said "LOL! Look at your stupid dead kid!".
The Americans (Brits, Australians, etc ) were often mutilating the enemy dead in Afghanistan to send the message.
Also taking photos/videos urinating on them and so on.
You know what the Americans were doing with enemy bodies in WWII? Sending body parts home. To their own families. Skulls especially. Celebrated in newspapers. Gifted to the president.
Now you lecture "barbarians" from your high horses for taking photos.
So how much was sending home the enemy body parts as trophies a "serial killer psychopath shit" (quote) when it was celebrated in America, vs taking and sending photos of leftover garbage already littering their homes and backyards? On the scale 1 to 10, respectively.
They're not "victims". They're perps. Enjoy.
As a side note, Immigration Watch Canada notes that the whole "multicultural mosaic" nonsense that was brought in in the 1970s under PET was the fault of the Ukranians in the first place; it wasn't good enough that the schoolbooks of the time helped spread the lie that everyone but Ukranians were too incompetent to break virgin prairie sod ....
(But the pakis did triple down on that shit with the Singh Decision; PET apologists like to claim that he had no idea or intention for the concept of "multiculturalism" to spread beyond European cultures.)
My only interest in this conflict is nuclear. One of these dumb fucks is going to bring that shit into play, I just know it.
Thought this was a big ghoulish, Pizza Supreme made a good point. Then I remembered I don't give a shit and hope they eat each other when the bullets run out and winter sets in again.
It should remind you of https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/15HbWpErFx/x/c/4OXFbfjgh5t if you think of Afghanistan.
The Afghan family villagers would then come and scoop up these dudes, who have been shredded up by the direct hits from the Apache 30 mm HE, with their own hands, to bury them.
After the final Taliban offensive one of the issues troubling the Afghans is that hundreds (thousand) of government troops have disappeared in that no one knows where they died exactly and couldn't be buried. Often on the other side of the country. It's because the Tali didn't care to try and identify them, but sometimes actually did help the families to try and check the bodies. And they're looking for them. https://archive.ph/uPNSr
And that's just Afghanistan examples.
You have in the article how they don't even believe photos, they wouldn't believe a simple message.
Now, the Russian population is has seen also some serious societial shift in Russia. When in Chechnya you had all these caravans of mothers (NOT fathers, no) coming in form Russia to check even the unidentified bodies in storage trains (some of which were refrigated, others not), now here you have the Russian
POWsPOSMOs directly phoning their mothers (again, not fathers) to take their sons home and the mothers don't really care. And don't come.But you probably don't even know about anything I talk about.
I'm a Caucasoid (albeit not a Caucasian), thank you.
The Russians are burning civilian corpses or booby trapping them (along with booby trapping everything), but the real (and only) outrage here is someone's been documenting their own bodies they also leave behind while withdrawing.
With no one even commenting on the part where they're also identifying the live Russians recorded looting by security cameras.
Do you know that in Chechnya they literally traded corpses? Selling them to the other side, for money. Civilian corpses too. That's the Russian attitudes to dead bodies.