Because Russia == Trump in their deluded minds. Russia is evil because Trump is evil. Anyone or anything that stands in the way of Russia is therefore just as virtuous and pure as "The Resistance" that opposed Trump, lawfully or not.
Trump Derangement Syndrome, Russia Derangement Syndrome, same Mass Formation Psychosis root cause.
Yup, for some reason, in these people's minds, every single thing they hate - and this is not a short list - are all merely facets of the same problem.
Surely you'd understand why people in Eastern Europe are concerned about this, right? Russia invading another country raises all sorts of alarms in the Baltics, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Georgia and so on. So not, it's not just Russia and Ukraine's fight.
What is in the OP is organic because this is the main thing happening right now. It's at a much larger scale than in 2014 and it's the first major European conflict since the Yugoslavian war. Of course it's going to be headlines everywhere and that will reflect anywhere else. Most sites that are politically-related are now inundated with this topic.
It made me even register here, after having lurked for a long time and I was even part of the original GG-related subreddit, which had a misspelling on its title. That's the state of it. It's a major thing.
What's in the OP isn't a bunch of Poles, Estonians and Romanians, it's a bunch of american le redditors who until four days ago had no idea Ukraine even existed because they were 8 years old the last time it was in the news, and will forget about it three days after it gets old and bumped off the headlines by the latest manufactured crisis.
it's a bunch of american le redditors who until four days ago had no idea Ukraine even existed because they were 8 years old the last time it was in the news, and will forget about it three days after it gets old and bumped off the headlines by the latest manufactured crisis.
You could say the same for those who claim here that this is a fight against globohomo or whatever. Look at the guy in a poster above, sitting at +30/0, proud that he didn't know where Ukraine was until 5 days ago and talking about this being an "internal USSR regional dispute". He's proud of being ignorant AND manages to greatly demonstrate that in the line right after. Seriously guys? Why take a side then. No different than the Redditors in the OP.
Still, the user I was replying to said:
It's not anyone's fight but Russia/Ukraine's.
Which is literally false. Russian attacking another sovereign nation is a lot of people's fight.
Please look up the history of Ukraine. You can use wiki, but the recent edits are a bit if a laugh. You are technically correct in calling Ukraine a sovereign nation, but using that as a point of argument makes your ignorance blatantly obvious.
Interestingly enough, I've seen more "IDGAF about Ukraine" and "Putin is not our ally" posts and comments over the past few days than I remember seeing in the last year or so. But that's just my personal take, I haven't been keeping a scorecard.
My interest in the conflict is that I'm surprised now many NPCs care, and it looks like good "crack in the window jam" along with Afghanistan to showcase how Biden completely fucks up the world stage. A political slant, sure, but if it works I'm not squeamish about pushing that spot.
I've seen more "IDGAF about Ukraine" and "Putin is not our ally" posts and comments over the past few days than I remember seeing in the last year or so
Doesn't matter to the NPCs. This is like SJW wokism. SiLEnce is Violence. Saying you don't give a shit is the same as saying you're not an ally so you're an enemy to them. YOU HAVE TO CARE AND AGREE WITH ME ITS AN INJUSTICE YOU PSYCHO!!1
Yeah I've seen a lot of "does this mean Putin and Trump were working together against the cabal / deep state" stuff.
No, Putin and Trump weren't working together. At all. On anything. Obama was working with Putin when he had "more flexibility after the election". Bush, Obama and Biden have each let Putin annex or invade a country.
I think alot of people on reddit are addicted to mass hysteria and it goes back before the plandemic. Back in 2018 when they were "repealing net neutrality" every sub had at least 1 post about it.
This Ukraine thing reminds me of Gabby Petito. Overnight, everyone in the world was obsessed with her despite never having heard of her ten minutes earlier. The news was constantly talking about her, Redditors were becoming hysterical over her death as if she was their own child, Faceboomers and Twitter idiots were changing their profile picture to "justice for Gabby". She was the most important person in the world for absolutely no reason.
Then, one day, they all just stopped caring. We never heard about her again. It was like humanity received an OTA software update.
People believe what the media tells them to believe. They feel what the media tells them to feel. They are NPCs.
I've seen stories/images of Russian false flags. Not stories that are false flags, but stories of false flags. Particularly, a picture of a crater created by a "missile" that has obvious shovel marks in it.
These are really interesting to me. Because the concept of a "false flag" is inherently a deep conspiracy theory, but now they're being shared as a matter of fact. The people sharing them are now OK with admitting that false flags are something that can and do occur, but still refuse to entertain the idea that there could be a false flag from their government.
Moreover, these same people will "debunk" any conspiracy theory about their own government by saying "would such an organized conspiracy really leave tell-tale signs like paid actors with IMDB profiles"? But then they laugh at the Russians for supposedly making huge mistakes, like leaving shovel marks in a "missile" crater. They completely fail to see their hypocrisy.
I have no idea if these false flags were real or not. All I know is that so many people that are saying they are false flags are the quickest to say false flags aren't real.
People will recognize how widespread "misinformation" is in the "Russian media" and see very clearly how the media in a country can convince the country of something other than the truth (in their minds), but refuse to accept that the same thing applies to them.
Putin is in the right over the future of the Ukraine and his actions, IMO only of course. Ukraine government is 100% globohomo to passively-aggressively pressure Russia. Russia and China are the only holdouts to globohomo that have any kind of military might.
No disrespect to anyone here supporting Ukraine, but the mass hysteria about the Ukraine thing is bordering on the psychotic.
Last week I couldn’t have pointed to Ukraine on a map. This week I’m supposed to give a shit about an internal USSR border dispute?
Reddit is clearly a branch of NATO psyop at this point.
Weird time to self own, lmao
That was to make it more palatable but he really wants to bring two eastern provinces into Russia.
Could also be China wanting to try and hurt Russia as much as possible through indirect manipulation via social media.
Because Russia == Trump in their deluded minds. Russia is evil because Trump is evil. Anyone or anything that stands in the way of Russia is therefore just as virtuous and pure as "The Resistance" that opposed Trump, lawfully or not.
Trump Derangement Syndrome, Russia Derangement Syndrome, same Mass Formation Psychosis root cause.
Yup, for some reason, in these people's minds, every single thing they hate - and this is not a short list - are all merely facets of the same problem.
But you are the conspiracy theorist!
NPCBrain is real
Whats the case for putin taking over Ukraine, though?
With our countries wars, it seems kinda like afghan, so its been funny to hear folks like condoleeza coming out against it.
Aka Terminal Leftism
Are they wrong, judging by the amount of Putin shills in this place in the last few days?
Trump isn't related to Russia in any way, but this Trump-affiliated place is now infested with Putin shills.
This place might as well be a branch of the Kremlin at this point.
Surely you'd understand why people in Eastern Europe are concerned about this, right? Russia invading another country raises all sorts of alarms in the Baltics, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Georgia and so on. So not, it's not just Russia and Ukraine's fight.
What is in the OP is organic because this is the main thing happening right now. It's at a much larger scale than in 2014 and it's the first major European conflict since the Yugoslavian war. Of course it's going to be headlines everywhere and that will reflect anywhere else. Most sites that are politically-related are now inundated with this topic.
It made me even register here, after having lurked for a long time and I was even part of the original GG-related subreddit, which had a misspelling on its title. That's the state of it. It's a major thing.
What's in the OP isn't a bunch of Poles, Estonians and Romanians, it's a bunch of american le redditors who until four days ago had no idea Ukraine even existed because they were 8 years old the last time it was in the news, and will forget about it three days after it gets old and bumped off the headlines by the latest manufactured crisis.
You could say the same for those who claim here that this is a fight against globohomo or whatever. Look at the guy in a poster above, sitting at +30/0, proud that he didn't know where Ukraine was until 5 days ago and talking about this being an "internal USSR regional dispute". He's proud of being ignorant AND manages to greatly demonstrate that in the line right after. Seriously guys? Why take a side then. No different than the Redditors in the OP.
Still, the user I was replying to said:
Which is literally false. Russian attacking another sovereign nation is a lot of people's fight.
Please look up the history of Ukraine. You can use wiki, but the recent edits are a bit if a laugh. You are technically correct in calling Ukraine a sovereign nation, but using that as a point of argument makes your ignorance blatantly obvious.
EDIT: No idea why my messages don't show when logged now, but they do when not logged.
Interestingly enough, I've seen more "IDGAF about Ukraine" and "Putin is not our ally" posts and comments over the past few days than I remember seeing in the last year or so. But that's just my personal take, I haven't been keeping a scorecard.
My interest in the conflict is that I'm surprised now many NPCs care, and it looks like good "crack in the window jam" along with Afghanistan to showcase how Biden completely fucks up the world stage. A political slant, sure, but if it works I'm not squeamish about pushing that spot.
Doesn't matter to the NPCs. This is like SJW wokism. SiLEnce is Violence. Saying you don't give a shit is the same as saying you're not an ally so you're an enemy to them. YOU HAVE TO CARE AND AGREE WITH ME ITS AN INJUSTICE YOU PSYCHO!!1
they have their msm shills pushing that this invasion is trumps fault
Yeah I've seen a lot of "does this mean Putin and Trump were working together against the cabal / deep state" stuff.
No, Putin and Trump weren't working together. At all. On anything. Obama was working with Putin when he had "more flexibility after the election". Bush, Obama and Biden have each let Putin annex or invade a country.
Putin was terrified of Trump.
I think alot of people on reddit are addicted to mass hysteria and it goes back before the plandemic. Back in 2018 when they were "repealing net neutrality" every sub had at least 1 post about it.
This Ukraine thing reminds me of Gabby Petito. Overnight, everyone in the world was obsessed with her despite never having heard of her ten minutes earlier. The news was constantly talking about her, Redditors were becoming hysterical over her death as if she was their own child, Faceboomers and Twitter idiots were changing their profile picture to "justice for Gabby". She was the most important person in the world for absolutely no reason.
Then, one day, they all just stopped caring. We never heard about her again. It was like humanity received an OTA software update.
People believe what the media tells them to believe. They feel what the media tells them to feel. They are NPCs.
then her ex turned up and was ded... whole thing was... kinda out there.
After more than 2 years of mass formation psychosis, are you surprised?
Kind of like COVID. A person can be smart and you can have a rational conversation but people are idiots/dumb and impressionable.
I've seen stories/images of Russian false flags. Not stories that are false flags, but stories of false flags. Particularly, a picture of a crater created by a "missile" that has obvious shovel marks in it.
These are really interesting to me. Because the concept of a "false flag" is inherently a deep conspiracy theory, but now they're being shared as a matter of fact. The people sharing them are now OK with admitting that false flags are something that can and do occur, but still refuse to entertain the idea that there could be a false flag from their government.
Moreover, these same people will "debunk" any conspiracy theory about their own government by saying "would such an organized conspiracy really leave tell-tale signs like paid actors with IMDB profiles"? But then they laugh at the Russians for supposedly making huge mistakes, like leaving shovel marks in a "missile" crater. They completely fail to see their hypocrisy.
I have no idea if these false flags were real or not. All I know is that so many people that are saying they are false flags are the quickest to say false flags aren't real.
People will recognize how widespread "misinformation" is in the "Russian media" and see very clearly how the media in a country can convince the country of something other than the truth (in their minds), but refuse to accept that the same thing applies to them.
Focus the sheep on one subject, and one subject only.
wow its almost like itd be worth debating both of those at the same time.
Putin is in the right over the future of the Ukraine and his actions, IMO only of course. Ukraine government is 100% globohomo to passively-aggressively pressure Russia. Russia and China are the only holdouts to globohomo that have any kind of military might.
I don't believe anything beyond my front door anymore.
Nah, i think it could be pushed from the top, but people are growing angry against war.
this invasion is wildly unpopular on most posts that i've seen, i think it might be 20-30% astroturf, but the rest could be real.