I'll say the same to you people as I think of Torba.
You're a morally bankrupt shill for a system you know is broken, pushing it on disenfranchised young men desperate for respite from the feminist system.
You're taking advantage of the harm done to them to sell what is effectively snake oil, that the world can rebuild around Christianity and we can all get married and have kids and that's perfect. All they have to do, to have this fairytale life, is to fight your war against whoever you say, and miraculously, women will treat them like human beings.
Except, we both know what you're selling is a sad fantasy, incompatible with reality.
I really can't figure out your disdain for Christianity. Have you been watching the TV preachers too much or something? Because they make up happy feely shit so you will send them money.
Unadulterated Christianity is just so perfectly compatible with most of your views. It's a patriarchal society. Feminism wouldn't really exist. All these women in power wouldn't be. Garbage like OnlyFans you go on about would be extremely taboo and repulsive. You do realize marriage is optional in Christianity, right?
Because these are the people who have been pushing the broken marriage system despite knowing it's completely fucked. They're like the sellers on Wish pretending they have an iPhone for sale when they know nicely it's a bigger fraud than Biden's election.
Why would I want morally bankrupt pearl clutchers on my side?
The only reason they're against pornography is because it lowers marriage rates - it's almost like if you can control the hormones your body sends out, the exploitation tactics used by women don't work...
Feminism would exist. We already had pearl clutchers in power and they didn't disappear. Remember Reagan? His party arranged a meeting on anti-porn strategy with none other than radical feminist and male genocide advocate, Andrea Dworkin.
The fact is, religious societies are ill-equipped to deal with the current situation because they believe everyone was created by God and is therefore fixable. Feminists are not. They can't be. They are even more morally gone than the marriage pushers and will support anything that removes men's human rights.
We just need a leader willing to spell out what feminism is and give the "non-political" women one chance to take the olive branch. Everyone who doesn't take it is unfixable.
I don't trust marriage shills. You have to be a certain level of morally bankrupt to shill it.
I also find his backstory really suspicious, knowing the backstory of people who actually got targeted by the establishment - the wife always ditches, sometimes even helps the establishment fight against you. (Alex Jones comes to mind immediately.)
His backstory sounds more like someone's idea of what women should be, rather than what they are.
Let's be honest, you don't trust anyone who ever had anything but the worst opinion on every single woman. Like literally, if he is even just polite to women, you reee yourself into a coma.
No man is ever perfect enough for you, save for like... that hermit they recently found in some jungle in Asia.
Why would I trust people who effectively support the system holding me down?
The reason feminism hasn't been dealt with yet, despite their many, many harms on society, is because women like it this way.
Sure, they might not want all men to be killed, like feminists do. But it hasn't got to that point yet and they aren't going to give up their privileges to save us, that'd be ridiculous.
Women turned out in droves to elect Trudeau. Without their votes, Canada would be free.
Have you ever looked up the woman-approved definition of an abusive relationship? It literally sounds like their relationship with the rest of society.
You are literally a feminist, but opposites. You just made the M&M's speech. I'm not even kidding, you are EXACTLY like a feminist. The very same thing.
You hate them, but you are closer to a feminist than anyone else here.
Like I said, feminists always project. So, logically, opposing them requires accusing them of what they accuse you of, because that's the actual truth.
I thought Givesendgo was affiliated with Gab and Torba, but it does appear that you are correct and I was mistaken.
I could have sworn I've seen discussion that Torba was involved, but perhaps people were speaking figuratively and not literally that GSG and Torba were part of the "parallel economy".
In a true parallel economy, it doesn’t matter if leftists know that you donated to truckers because you can’t be debanked, censored, and disemployed by leftists.
My question on this topic - are the breaches caused by internal failures or massive external force?
Are they incompetent/malicious in how they handle data? I'm not a data expert (far from it) , but surely storing names and addresses in plain text is ill advised. It's not like GiveSendGo was actually sending something to these people for donating, they didn't need to keep the information past payment verification.
Gab was also breached, but IIRC, the breach was given to a website that only allowed you to see it if you were in it.
Torba of course denied wrongdoing and said the data was fake. Nothing came of the whole incident so his reputation survived.
I did see other commenters talk about lax security before the doxx happened at GSG though.
One poster claimed he tried to donate on the site and was already logged in as a random user that had previously donated and had access to their details.
I had a feeling this would happen. That's why I didn't donate.
I'm not sure if it was because of malice or because GiveSendGo wasn't really understanding what they were doing, their eyes just lighting up at the thought of all the traffic and funds they would get.
Before the convoy, who had actually heard of them?
They didn't just bite off more than they could chew. They walked into a war holding a butter knife while choking.
You cannot get into things with literal governmental attention without being prepared for the absolute worst. They thought the enemy would fight fair.
Of all of the tens of millions of dollars crowdfunded, only 13,000 Canadian dollars ever made it into a trucker's fuel tank according to the organizers.
Just say Jewish. We both know you're thinking it. You're the hellspawned cross of the 70s "anti-degeneracy" right and ConPro.
That's why I'll never register for Gab. You're a morally bankrupt shill for a system you know is broken, pushing it on disenfranchised young men desperate for respite from the feminist system.
You're taking advantage of the harm done to them to sell what is effectively snake oil, that the world can rebuild around Christianity and we can all get married and have kids and that's perfect.
All they have to do, to have this fairytale life, is to fight your war against whoever you say, and miraculously, women will treat them like human beings.
Except, we both know what you're selling is a sad fantasy, incompatible with reality, and that the only reason you push it is in the hope of directing the anger of young men away from the systems that betrayed them and the people who supported it, and towards your caricature villain class.
The problem is that the left controls all institutions, I would like to not have to worry that the state closes my bank account because I made a gay joke 10 years ago or that I do not agree with mask mandates.
The problem is that the left controls all institutions
The reason for that is the 19th amendment. That is an inevitable result of women's voting because women, particularly unmarried women, have no stake in the future of a nation.
As long as women can vote the 19th will never be repealed, so there is no political solution. The best case and also least likely scenario is balkanization. The worst and most likely is descent into tyranny followed by a collapse.
The left does not "control all institutions". They control the high visibility institutions you care about, but it's all facade. Their power is a mile wide and an inch deep because they don't have control over the slower moving, structural pieces like the courts (they have ONE court, the Nutty Ninth, and even there they don't win all the time), nor the unstoppable force that is the invisible hand of consumer revealed preference.
They're trying to shape consumer preference, but their efforts are like trying to build a dam on the Mississippi by hand with a garden trowel.
If you GENUINELY believed they controlled everything, you'd have resorted to violence by now. The fact that you haven't proves the hyperbole.
What you are, is mad that you don't get any high visibly wins. You're the sort of fan who burns their baseball cap because the home team lost the ONE game you chose to attend the whole year. Destroying a high profile individual is not hard, for our side or for theirs; and our side is learning to pick better people to elevate to high visibility positions while the left is stuck with the fact that their loudest people are also the craziest.
If you say so. I do not see all those wins behind the scenes nor have you given a solution.
I for one like Christians helping out in the culture war, I think that freedom of religion is a good defense. I also tend to like most Christians I've met.
First, so that you understand my perspective, I'm a Quaker. I don't attend meeting because frankly most Quakers (at least Iowa Yearly) are so naïve they unironically believe everything the cultural marxists say.
We may be crazy, because we genuinely believe in building heaven on Earth. But I want you to understand that we are NOT Protestants (we're basically the Puritans radical left wing). We didn't rise out of Luther's continental movement, we were a group that felt the Anglicans didn't go far enough and that the only thing Cromwell did wrong was die before the work was done.
So with all that said, I'll get to my point.
Protestantism is the problem.
Luther and Calvin and Wesley did not build. They only destroyed, and everything their movements touch crumbles.
Yes Christian had their power crazy days but now is more about love thy neighbor, strong family values, anti-degeneracy, individual responsibility and care about protecting children. A Christian will help out anyone when they have a problem, does not matter if they are gay, trans or what ever even if they do not agree with their life style. At least that has been my experience.
On top of that Christians are sometimes protected by freedom of religion so it helps.
Imp, stop saying “we”. You’re very much alone in your idiocy.
Jews are welcome to stand up to globalists, bankers, and leftists.
But they don’t.
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DA JEWS! DA JEWS!
Get it correct. Leftit and Neo-Con Jews. Middle and Right- Wing Jews stand up.
I'll say the same to you people as I think of Torba.
I really can't figure out your disdain for Christianity. Have you been watching the TV preachers too much or something? Because they make up happy feely shit so you will send them money.
Unadulterated Christianity is just so perfectly compatible with most of your views. It's a patriarchal society. Feminism wouldn't really exist. All these women in power wouldn't be. Garbage like OnlyFans you go on about would be extremely taboo and repulsive. You do realize marriage is optional in Christianity, right?
Because these are the people who have been pushing the broken marriage system despite knowing it's completely fucked. They're like the sellers on Wish pretending they have an iPhone for sale when they know nicely it's a bigger fraud than Biden's election.
Why would I want morally bankrupt pearl clutchers on my side?
The only reason they're against pornography is because it lowers marriage rates - it's almost like if you can control the hormones your body sends out, the exploitation tactics used by women don't work...
Feminism would exist. We already had pearl clutchers in power and they didn't disappear. Remember Reagan? His party arranged a meeting on anti-porn strategy with none other than radical feminist and male genocide advocate, Andrea Dworkin.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Dworkin#Testimony_before_Attorney_General's_Commission_on_Pornography
The fact is, religious societies are ill-equipped to deal with the current situation because they believe everyone was created by God and is therefore fixable. Feminists are not. They can't be. They are even more morally gone than the marriage pushers and will support anything that removes men's human rights.
We just need a leader willing to spell out what feminism is and give the "non-political" women one chance to take the olive branch. Everyone who doesn't take it is unfixable.
His parallel system will work for you too. You don't have to be a Christian.
You're basing that on what?
I don't trust marriage shills. You have to be a certain level of morally bankrupt to shill it.
I also find his backstory really suspicious, knowing the backstory of people who actually got targeted by the establishment - the wife always ditches, sometimes even helps the establishment fight against you. (Alex Jones comes to mind immediately.)
His backstory sounds more like someone's idea of what women should be, rather than what they are.
Let's be honest, you don't trust anyone who ever had anything but the worst opinion on every single woman. Like literally, if he is even just polite to women, you reee yourself into a coma.
No man is ever perfect enough for you, save for like... that hermit they recently found in some jungle in Asia.
I have to be very careful how I phrase this.
Why would I trust people who effectively support the system holding me down?
The reason feminism hasn't been dealt with yet, despite their many, many harms on society, is because women like it this way.
Sure, they might not want all men to be killed, like feminists do. But it hasn't got to that point yet and they aren't going to give up their privileges to save us, that'd be ridiculous.
Women turned out in droves to elect Trudeau. Without their votes, Canada would be free.
Have you ever looked up the woman-approved definition of an abusive relationship? It literally sounds like their relationship with the rest of society.
You are literally a feminist, but opposites. You just made the M&M's speech. I'm not even kidding, you are EXACTLY like a feminist. The very same thing.
You hate them, but you are closer to a feminist than anyone else here.
Like I said, feminists always project. So, logically, opposing them requires accusing them of what they accuse you of, because that's the actual truth.
Bro what the fuck do you even want at this point?
Stop being a contrarian and simply state your ideal end goal.
Torba is offering seemingly everything that you'd desire and you still attack him.
Are you nothing more than a nihilist yearning for death?
I don't trust religious tradcucks.
They always sell humanity out because "women are God's children too" or some bullshit.
Toward the 1970s is a step in the right direction but I think the goal should be the 1770s....
No one is going to trust the security of your parallel systems after witnessing all the witch hunt damage caused by your GiveSendGo convoy data hack.
Police forces in Ontario are currently purging anyone who made a donation from their ranks based on illegal doxxed data.
Crazy leftists are posting posters in telephone poles in their neighbourhoods with identifying info where the "traitors" love.
As far as I'm aware Torba has nothing to do with GiveSendGo.
Conflating the two is pretty disingenuous.
I thought Givesendgo was affiliated with Gab and Torba, but it does appear that you are correct and I was mistaken.
I could have sworn I've seen discussion that Torba was involved, but perhaps people were speaking figuratively and not literally that GSG and Torba were part of the "parallel economy".
My apologies.
In a true parallel economy, it doesn’t matter if leftists know that you donated to truckers because you can’t be debanked, censored, and disemployed by leftists.
My question on this topic - are the breaches caused by internal failures or massive external force?
Are they incompetent/malicious in how they handle data? I'm not a data expert (far from it) , but surely storing names and addresses in plain text is ill advised. It's not like GiveSendGo was actually sending something to these people for donating, they didn't need to keep the information past payment verification.
Gab was also breached, but IIRC, the breach was given to a website that only allowed you to see it if you were in it.
Torba of course denied wrongdoing and said the data was fake. Nothing came of the whole incident so his reputation survived.
I lack the expertise to make an informed guess.
I did see other commenters talk about lax security before the doxx happened at GSG though.
One poster claimed he tried to donate on the site and was already logged in as a random user that had previously donated and had access to their details.
I had a feeling this would happen. That's why I didn't donate.
I'm not sure if it was because of malice or because GiveSendGo wasn't really understanding what they were doing, their eyes just lighting up at the thought of all the traffic and funds they would get.
Before the convoy, who had actually heard of them?
They didn't just bite off more than they could chew. They walked into a war holding a butter knife while choking.
You cannot get into things with literal governmental attention without being prepared for the absolute worst. They thought the enemy would fight fair.
Of all of the tens of millions of dollars crowdfunded, only 13,000 Canadian dollars ever made it into a trucker's fuel tank according to the organizers.
Governments and courts hold on to the rest.
Should have used cryptocurrencies.
Just say Jewish. We both know you're thinking it. You're the hellspawned cross of the 70s "anti-degeneracy" right and ConPro.
That's why I'll never register for Gab. You're a morally bankrupt shill for a system you know is broken, pushing it on disenfranchised young men desperate for respite from the feminist system.
You're taking advantage of the harm done to them to sell what is effectively snake oil, that the world can rebuild around Christianity and we can all get married and have kids and that's perfect.
All they have to do, to have this fairytale life, is to fight your war against whoever you say, and miraculously, women will treat them like human beings.
Except, we both know what you're selling is a sad fantasy, incompatible with reality, and that the only reason you push it is in the hope of directing the anger of young men away from the systems that betrayed them and the people who supported it, and towards your caricature villain class.
What is your alternative?
Define the problem, and we'll give you a solution.
Your problem is you've chosen the solution you want, like a carpenter bringing a framing hammer to a tenderloin cooking contest.
The problem is that the left controls all institutions, I would like to not have to worry that the state closes my bank account because I made a gay joke 10 years ago or that I do not agree with mask mandates.
The reason for that is the 19th amendment. That is an inevitable result of women's voting because women, particularly unmarried women, have no stake in the future of a nation.
As long as women can vote the 19th will never be repealed, so there is no political solution. The best case and also least likely scenario is balkanization. The worst and most likely is descent into tyranny followed by a collapse.
Then why aren't you shooting by now?
If you're going to be hyperbolic then so am I.
The left does not "control all institutions". They control the high visibility institutions you care about, but it's all facade. Their power is a mile wide and an inch deep because they don't have control over the slower moving, structural pieces like the courts (they have ONE court, the Nutty Ninth, and even there they don't win all the time), nor the unstoppable force that is the invisible hand of consumer revealed preference.
They're trying to shape consumer preference, but their efforts are like trying to build a dam on the Mississippi by hand with a garden trowel.
If you GENUINELY believed they controlled everything, you'd have resorted to violence by now. The fact that you haven't proves the hyperbole.
What you are, is mad that you don't get any high visibly wins. You're the sort of fan who burns their baseball cap because the home team lost the ONE game you chose to attend the whole year. Destroying a high profile individual is not hard, for our side or for theirs; and our side is learning to pick better people to elevate to high visibility positions while the left is stuck with the fact that their loudest people are also the craziest.
If you say so. I do not see all those wins behind the scenes nor have you given a solution. I for one like Christians helping out in the culture war, I think that freedom of religion is a good defense. I also tend to like most Christians I've met.
First, so that you understand my perspective, I'm a Quaker. I don't attend meeting because frankly most Quakers (at least Iowa Yearly) are so naïve they unironically believe everything the cultural marxists say.
We may be crazy, because we genuinely believe in building heaven on Earth. But I want you to understand that we are NOT Protestants (we're basically the Puritans radical left wing). We didn't rise out of Luther's continental movement, we were a group that felt the Anglicans didn't go far enough and that the only thing Cromwell did wrong was die before the work was done.
So with all that said, I'll get to my point.
Protestantism is the problem.
Luther and Calvin and Wesley did not build. They only destroyed, and everything their movements touch crumbles.
I barely touch Gab or any social media. But TheImpossible1 seems to have a problem with them. I figured he prefers some other platform.
I prefer the one we're on. But if it comes down to it, my alt media bet is on Truth Social.
To what? That's a very open ended question.
The world you want is the extinction of humanity. At least there are people left in Torba's world.
HURR DURR, rather have humanity die than accept that some men and women get on well.
You okay?
On top of that Christians are sometimes protected by freedom of religion so it helps.
A...good take...from a ConPro user?
Dies of shock