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Tomorrow morning might be when SCOTUS rules on the vaccine mandates since they say on their calendar that they will be releasing one or more legal opinions at 10 am EST on January 13th. I pray SCOTUS atleast rules against the OSHA mandate. Sadly looks like the CMS mandate might pass. (www.supremecourt.gov)
posted 4 years ago by onetruephilosoraptor 4 years ago by onetruephilosoraptor +42 / -0
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– Filo76 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

People on the right are more responsible and have to provide for their families. If the mandate is confirmed, then a lot of people will be forced out of work. If they can’t work and feed their families they will definitely turn their on eye on the government.

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– Filo76 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I don’t necessarily disagree with you. But it’s not an excuse. The reason conservatives are who they are is because value of family is the top priority. Look after family first. Sure, the country and world is falling apart but you have to see to your loved ones first.

Strip that away and stop people from taking care of family and you will unleash hellfire.

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– Filo76 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I definitely see your point. The left can circle the wagons better than anyone. The right will endlessly bicker among themselves over trivial issues. It’s hard to get them to join together when everyone is so independent minded.

That’s why Trump was and is so effective. He was able to get all these independent minded people together for a greater cause.

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– blackpink 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

It's too bad the GOP side of US politics (its voting base included) is incapable of actual civil disobedience

they are capable. it's called "controlled opposition:

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– Bahariye 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Oy vey that's very antisemitic against our lord and savior Ben shekelpiro

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– Tourgen 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

The majority are onboard with vaxx, so no, not "going against the population". More accurately "the mob". The mob agrees and promotes the progressive State.

Why would you expect Republicans to disobey? The fundamentally are the same people as the Democrats. They have the same values and they have the same agenda. They answer to the same people.

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– MargarineMongoose 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Which is why I want to see the Republican party burned to the ground and replaced with something that represents genuine opposition to the hellscape we now inhabit.

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– LauriThorne 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I keep seeing this sentiment and think it's more than a little doomer.

You know why Republicans, by and large, don't do civil disobedience with this shit? Because our governors aren't making these decrees. What's there to disobey in Florida?

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– LauriThorne 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Or the Virginia and Michigan 2A rallies.

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– Piroko 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

The CMS mandate was always on firmer ground, both legally and ethically.

The OSHA mandate is almost certainly doomed.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

I hope you will be proven correct about the OSHA mandate tomorrow morning.

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– Bahariye 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The cms mandate can suck my balls.

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– pertivi 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Everyone and everything is part of the "system".

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– blackpink 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

sorry, can someone here pleas tell me the difference between the osha and the cms mandate? I thought there was only one mandate.

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– Grumman 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

The CMS mandate threatens to withhold federal funding from health care facilities that don't force their employees to get vaccinated. The OHSA mandate forces private employers to force their employees to get vaccinated even if they don't take taxpayer dollars.

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– Piroko 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

And thus one affects "basically all medical employees", where the other affects "basically everyone".

It's a harder sell to say the government can't and shouldn't coerce medical workers to get vaccinated.

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– LauriThorne 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Especially since it really only effects people they're paying in some form.

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– 8BitArchitect 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

You could argue (and indeed, at least one lawyer and one justice did) argue that there is only one mandate, which the White House is obfuscating by pushing it through different three-letter orgs with slightly different requirements in order to get around the fact that they don't actually have the authority to mandate that everyone in the country get the jab.

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– ghostfox1_ 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

My guess, Roberts has the majority opinion and is waiting to release it giving the butthurt leftists too much time to drag it out because he cares more about the "legacy" than doing his job.

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– MegoThor 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Let the illegitimate federal government pass whatever “laws” they want. The more people they wake up, the faster this comes to a head.

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– Bahariye 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I don't care if they rule against freedom. Scotus doesn't give me my rights. They are innate. My body is my own and I won't cave. Suck my balls and lick my ass mandate pushers.

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