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[News] Go kill yourself. Assisted suicide pod approved for use in Switzerland (archive.md)
posted 4 years ago by yvaN_ehT_nioJ 4 years ago by yvaN_ehT_nioJ +33 / -0
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– TentElephant 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

There are no words to properly describe the evil of these people.

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– SupremeReader 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Clearly you have no idea how much many people want the things like that. Instead of being forced to make a mess of themselves in the public, or botching it in private and suffering, or both. Even with a gun you can fuck up absolutely horrifically, and in many countries there are no guns.

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– OBRIENMUSTSUFFER 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

I’m sympathetic to the people dying of painful wasting illnesses or dementia that have absolutely no hope of recovery and merely want to end their pain in the quickest, cleanest way possible, but something about how giddy some people get over shit like this just weirds me out.

This article is a good example. The whole I Fucking Love Science crowd absolutely loses their shit over stuff like this, and I’m not really sure why. I think even in the best of circumstances using this kind of device should be a somber, private thing. They celebrate it in this garish, immature, bugman-esque way something that should be a very difficult, personal decision. Maybe it’s just another symptom of our society giving in to nihilism?

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– LauriThorne 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

We've moved from "safe, legal and rare" to "shout your abortion" I'm not surprised that there's a "shout your suicide" crowd in the mainstream.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

The Standard Process of Normalization:

  1. "People are doing [illegal thing] anyways at great risk. By making [thing] legal we reduce the risk. That doesn't mean it's not bad; it just means it's safe"
  2. "[Thing] has been legal now for decades but is still considered bad: isn't it time for that to change?"

In other words, you decouple legality from morality when you want to make a thing legal, then you re-couple them again when you want to make it "moral".

You can see numerous examples of this in action, from abortion to drug use.

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– WeedleTLiar 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Science doesn't hold any life, let alone human life, to be sacred. The scientific method insists that we innoculate children with a compound of unknown effects, we feed live dogs to ants, and we irradiate veterans, just to see what happens.

Science has no mechanism for dealing with empathy, justice, or any other ideal; all it can do is determine if a hypothesis is materially true (although it's exceedingly good at what it does). That's why spirituality, philosophy, and religion are so important. They are the only things standing between us and ubiquitous cruelty and callous disregard for life.

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– Assassin47 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

You'd think that, but doing research with PhDs at the university made me aware of ethics protocols that almost every researcher has to agree to in order to get a job and get funding. These go beyond protecting life, and informed consent. They discourage studies that could harm "marginalized groups", regardless of any good the findings would provide. For example a study that finds homosexual behavior is to blame for AIDs would be wrong.

So the reality is actually worse. Only common liberal heresies are protected. As we see with the mandatory vaccination and fast-tracked approvals, the whole informed consent and ethics thing can be thrown out the window if the politicians and corporations want it bad enough. Scientists will rarely get funding for taboo research that goes against leftist dogma, but they can violate ethical guidelines if it's determined by the politics of the day to be for the common good.

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