Australian doctor Philip Nitschke has announced that 3-d printed devices that are being coined “euthanasia pods” — a coffin-like device that makes assisted suicide accessible for nearly anybody and without medical intervention — will soon be available in Switzerland.
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"The person will get into the capsule and lie down. It’s very comfortable. They will be asked a number of questions and when they have answered, they may press the button inside the capsule activating the mechanism in their own time,” Nitschke told Swiss Info in an interview.
Nitschke explained the pod will then start the process of flooding the inside with nitrogen, which will reduce the oxygen level from 21 percent to 1 percent. He said the person will feel disoriented and slightly euphoric before losing consciousness.
“The whole thing takes about 30 seconds. Death takes place through hypoxia and hypocapnia, oxygen and carbon dioxide deprivation, respectively. There is no panic, no choking feeling,” he told the news outlet.
The pod can be towed anywhere for the death, according to Nitschke, including “an idyllic outdoor setting or in the premises of an assisted-suicide organization, for example.”
Would it be off-base to call this demonic? I could see this maybe being ok in the case of a terminal patient, but other than that.. with no medical oversight? There's probably going to be foul play with this device once it finally becomes available, just you watch. Nevermind what looks to me like a blasé treatment of the act of suicide.
It reeks of nihilism continuing to burn its way through the heart and soul of the West.
I can imagine this being used by countless impulsive people if it becomes widely available.
The first thing to jump to my mind was m all the scum who'd try to cram their ancient, decrepit grandmother or grandfather in so they could fight over the scraps of the inheritance a few months or years early.
Never underestimate the depravity of people when a family member is dead or dying and going to leave behind property or money. No joke. My grandad was dying, he got better thank god, but while we thought he was about to die I had multiple relatives bickering over what was to happen to his stuff. Never would've thought they'd do that if I didn't see it with my own eyes.
Yeah. Turns out it was completely due to VA incompetence. Gave him the wrong drug or something to that effect. This was. Oh wow, further back than I was thinking so I forget the specifics. Things cleared up relatively quick when we were able to get a doc at a non-VA hospital to take a look at him.
I think Futurama got it from a book called Immortality Inc, which is what the movie Freejack was based off of. It had suicide booths in it, BUT in that world, the afterlife was proven to be a thing. In the book, the Spiritual Switchboard was exactly that - it was a system that allowed the living to communicate with the dead. So in this context, suicide wasn't a big leap.
Clearly you have no idea how much many people want the things like that. Instead of being forced to make a mess of themselves in the public, or botching it in private and suffering, or both. Even with a gun you can fuck up absolutely horrifically, and in many countries there are no guns.
I’m sympathetic to the people dying of painful wasting illnesses or dementia that have absolutely no hope of recovery and merely want to end their pain in the quickest, cleanest way possible, but something about how giddy some people get over shit like this just weirds me out.
This article is a good example. The whole I Fucking Love Science crowd absolutely loses their shit over stuff like this, and I’m not really sure why. I think even in the best of circumstances using this kind of device should be a somber, private thing. They celebrate it in this garish, immature, bugman-esque way something that should be a very difficult, personal decision. Maybe it’s just another symptom of our society giving in to nihilism?
Science doesn't hold any life, let alone human life, to be sacred. The scientific method insists that we innoculate children with a compound of unknown effects, we feed live dogs to ants, and we irradiate veterans, just to see what happens.
Science has no mechanism for dealing with empathy, justice, or any other ideal; all it can do is determine if a hypothesis is materially true (although it's exceedingly good at what it does). That's why spirituality, philosophy, and religion are so important. They are the only things standing between us and ubiquitous cruelty and callous disregard for life.
There's a bridge in Toronto, near where I used to live, that was infamous for people jumping off of it.
The city ended up putting a wire fence up because it was over a busy highway. You could still get through but it was much harder. The number of people jumping dropped to near zero and the overall suicide rate for the city went down.
Most suicidal people are temporarily depressed. If you make it easy to kill themselves, they will. If it's hard, they give up because they're depressed. Later they don't feel depressed so they don't even try at all.
Making suicide easy and painless only encourages people to make hasty decisions that hurt everyone who cares about them.
It is, and completely ignored by this technology. The inventors must be aware of this if they have any interest in assisted suicide, the fact that they are ignoring it can only be insidious.
This is absolutely demonic. Imagine some depressed kid wanting to kill himself but maybe afraid to do it. If it’s painless and easy like this, he may never get the chance to find out he was wrong about life.
Australian doctor Philip Nitschke has announced that 3-d printed devices that are being coined “euthanasia pods” — a coffin-like device that makes assisted suicide accessible for nearly anybody and without medical intervention — will soon be available in Switzerland.
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Would it be off-base to call this demonic? I could see this maybe being ok in the case of a terminal patient, but other than that.. with no medical oversight? There's probably going to be foul play with this device once it finally becomes available, just you watch. Nevermind what looks to me like a blasé treatment of the act of suicide.
It reeks of nihilism continuing to burn its way through the heart and soul of the West.
The first thing to jump to my mind was m all the scum who'd try to cram their ancient, decrepit grandmother or grandfather in so they could fight over the scraps of the inheritance a few months or years early.
Never underestimate the depravity of people when a family member is dead or dying and going to leave behind property or money. No joke. My grandad was dying, he got better thank god, but while we thought he was about to die I had multiple relatives bickering over what was to happen to his stuff. Never would've thought they'd do that if I didn't see it with my own eyes.
Yeah. Turns out it was completely due to VA incompetence. Gave him the wrong drug or something to that effect. This was. Oh wow, further back than I was thinking so I forget the specifics. Things cleared up relatively quick when we were able to get a doc at a non-VA hospital to take a look at him.
I think Futurama got it from a book called Immortality Inc, which is what the movie Freejack was based off of. It had suicide booths in it, BUT in that world, the afterlife was proven to be a thing. In the book, the Spiritual Switchboard was exactly that - it was a system that allowed the living to communicate with the dead. So in this context, suicide wasn't a big leap.
What about all the weak-willed people who'll off themselves because someone hurt their feelings online.
Watch, this will lead to mean words being equated with murder.
There are no words to properly describe the evil of these people.
Clearly you have no idea how much many people want the things like that. Instead of being forced to make a mess of themselves in the public, or botching it in private and suffering, or both. Even with a gun you can fuck up absolutely horrifically, and in many countries there are no guns.
I’m sympathetic to the people dying of painful wasting illnesses or dementia that have absolutely no hope of recovery and merely want to end their pain in the quickest, cleanest way possible, but something about how giddy some people get over shit like this just weirds me out.
This article is a good example. The whole I Fucking Love Science crowd absolutely loses their shit over stuff like this, and I’m not really sure why. I think even in the best of circumstances using this kind of device should be a somber, private thing. They celebrate it in this garish, immature, bugman-esque way something that should be a very difficult, personal decision. Maybe it’s just another symptom of our society giving in to nihilism?
We've moved from "safe, legal and rare" to "shout your abortion" I'm not surprised that there's a "shout your suicide" crowd in the mainstream.
Science doesn't hold any life, let alone human life, to be sacred. The scientific method insists that we innoculate children with a compound of unknown effects, we feed live dogs to ants, and we irradiate veterans, just to see what happens.
Science has no mechanism for dealing with empathy, justice, or any other ideal; all it can do is determine if a hypothesis is materially true (although it's exceedingly good at what it does). That's why spirituality, philosophy, and religion are so important. They are the only things standing between us and ubiquitous cruelty and callous disregard for life.
There's a bridge in Toronto, near where I used to live, that was infamous for people jumping off of it.
The city ended up putting a wire fence up because it was over a busy highway. You could still get through but it was much harder. The number of people jumping dropped to near zero and the overall suicide rate for the city went down.
Most suicidal people are temporarily depressed. If you make it easy to kill themselves, they will. If it's hard, they give up because they're depressed. Later they don't feel depressed so they don't even try at all.
Making suicide easy and painless only encourages people to make hasty decisions that hurt everyone who cares about them.
Definitely demonic.
Depression makes you not want to exert effort into anything.
Therefore, to save the lives of the depressed, make there be some minor effort involved.
It's a fairly basic and yet remarkably effective strategy.
It is, and completely ignored by this technology. The inventors must be aware of this if they have any interest in assisted suicide, the fact that they are ignoring it can only be insidious.
This is absolutely demonic. Imagine some depressed kid wanting to kill himself but maybe afraid to do it. If it’s painless and easy like this, he may never get the chance to find out he was wrong about life.