Odd how two far-left publications are pushing a (frankly completely stupid and redundant) argument calling the 7 day week tyrannical and then pushing a system that is actually tyrannical. Imagine each year having the exact same days/dates. Every 14th would be a Thursday every year for eternity. This is the need to control every aspect of peoples lives. Well and of course the destruction of the Christian week per the Bible.
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First thing you do when you take over is change the calendar…
Try to change. It's always widely unpopular and it never sticks and yet they always try.
Hey, Caesar managed it.
He also fixed a broken system, one that got especially broken because of his own negligence.
We live in The Permanent French Revolution.
basically all our modern evil goes back to that, doesn't it?
All back to the Frankfurt school
French Revolution is pre Frankfurt school and is full of bad ideas leftist keep trying to bring back
If they did, then we can find old articles where the media jumped on fundamentalist Christians who wanted to get rid of the names of the days of the week because they're named after non-Christian gods.
Really activates the almonds when two publications put out the same bizarre opinion, doesn't it?
Who pulled that string, and why?
It looks like they're both pushing the same book in both articles (and wouldn't you know it, books often get published/released on Tuesdays). I don't think there will be any serious call to change the calendar.
It's just a book promo disguised as an article.
It'd be fun to be a stuck-up rogue-time guy.
You mean every 12th. And every month has a Friday the 13th.
And the Cotsworth Calendar is actually cool and we should totally adopt it. Here's how it works:
There are 13 months of exactly 28 days. At the end of the year there are one or two leap days that operate on the Gregorian system. The leap days are considered to be part of a "14th" month that is generally treated as a holiday, and/or lumped into the preceding month for purposes of billing.
From an accounting and scheduling perspective it would be much simpler to have fixed length months with a holiday leap. It would eliminate the "three check month" phenomena that hits most employees roughly quarterly, where the difference between biweekly pay and monthly bills results in a sudden jump or drop in cash on hand.
Which is completely manageable by anyone who isn’t a complete moron. It is actually easier for a worker to have seven day weeks than no monthly pay because there are a set weeks per year versus days per year. The new system would be used to justify cuts in pay periods to a bimonthly system for workers. This system also would, more importantly, be used to completely wipe current holidays off the map. This is a communist wet dream.
I understand and agree with the point you are making here. Would you say something similar about an attempt to remove the daylight savings time system? The two seem similar in principle, but I'm struggling on how to explain. More on the side of changing things people are used to, rather than grasping for the deletion of cultural norms.
DST is honestly something that should be based on latitude, people in Michigan are far more affected than people in Florida, and a state variance would make more sense in that regard. This is similar to how we treat time zones which have been fairly easy for people in transition.
That's a good point about latitude, I hadn't thought of that.
Personally, DST seems like a hassle to cover up seasonal changes, with the intention of getting people away from thinking that they shouldn't be working when the sun is down.
It's an issue that I expect to be brought up less going into the future, as everyone uses their smartphone or other internet-connected device to tell the time of day. I'm still using normal clocks, so I often fuck up appointments because I forget it's time to change the numbers again.
Yes, and?
Do I need to give you the "it's a feature, not a bug" speech?
What's your issue with holidays? Tradition is something that means a lot to people. Special events give you excitement and good memories/feelings, things to look forward to, etc. They are a much needed change of pace.
Because by and large they were hijacked by brazen consumerism decades ago.
Better to end the public observance, give people a month of personal holiday each year, and let the people who actually do give a shit about this or that holiday celebrate as they will.
I'm Quaker. Holidays kinda aren't a thing for us.
So we just cancel it all because le consumerism?
Plus, it is easy for you to say cancel it all when you already are part of a group that is against it. That's like when lesbians say men are useless and we should all just eradicate men.
Also paganism.
Basically what I'm saying is that my position is that celebrating these holidays should be beneath any Christian, or at least any who claim to not be Catholic.
I mean, cuz let's face it, we've been fighting the Catholics for five hundred years, they're not gonna change.
Before I say Quakers sound based, can you give me an example of a "subdued" (term from article) holiday celebration? For instance, what would a birthday or Father's Day look like?
It sounds similar to my personal stance, but I don't have the backing of community or religion. I mostly think forcing responsibilities of festivities into interpersonal relationships is in bad taste, and that adults should have the strength to choose when they'd like to engage celebrations. To put another way, focusing on a holiday to express something (often gratitude) creates the implication that you should hold back from expressing that outside of the holiday. Maybe I just feel like doing something for someone - saying it's because the calendar told me to cheapens whatever I did.
Don't, cuz the majority of the Yearlys are really, really pro-BLM. Paradoxically, the "conservative" Quakers are the most radically progressive because of what "conservative" means in the context of the Friends. The Conservative Friends rejected the shift to evangelicalism (like having pastors and programmed worship) but because of it they're the MOST culturally progressive.
Yearly: Every Friends church participates in a larger "yearly" meeting. The specific yearly they participates in denoting their specific branch of the faith. In the US there are a couple dozen yearlys, roughly grouped into four basic camps. These are the Conservatives, the Evangelical Friends, the Friends United Meeting, and the Friends General Conference. I for example grew up with the Iowa Yearly (Conservative) but right now I don't attend meetings because Iowa Yearly is... pretty leftist and I don't have any other meeting options.
Yes, precisely.
Now, you'd be hard pressed to find quakers who are SO uptight about fun that they don't do kids birthdays. But, like, worthy events to gather for would be accomplishments: graduations and weddings for example. Also Easter. Easter and the concept of the resurrection is waaaaay more important than Christmas, because part of our thing is that god is among everyone.
Can you say more about this part? I thought the quakers had some amount of cultural isolation, but it sounds like you're saying that the lack of having the opportunity (or responsibility, perhaps) to touch base with their foundations is causing them to stray. Are you saying it's due to exposure from the broader culture which has a lot of bullshit in it? Or that they're naturally inclined towards such behavior even without outside interference?
A good thing done wrong doesn't make the good thing suddenly a bad thing. You dont scrap the good thing, you just start doing it right.
Lol go create your utopia somewhere else commie
This originally WAS our utopia. Iowa was mostly Quaker in 1850.
Maybe if we hadn't sacrificed an entire generation cleaning up the founders' mess we'd still be the largest denomination in the midwest and people would say first day instead of sunday.
I'll recognize Smarch over my dead body!
How about we stop trying to change civilization every time an idea seems "cool".
Here's an idea, let's not change the dating system we've used for centuries for no actual gain.
If you're too dumb to understand dates you're too dumb to live.
You know, there was a time when the first day of the year was March 25.
Yeah and there was a time we sacrificed goats to Zeus' cock and balls.
Yeah and it's because the days and months are pagan that Quakers started using numbers for days and months hundreds of years ago.
Tell ya what. When civilization finally falls and we rebuild we'll put you in charge of the new calendar.
Until then stop trying to change something for the sake of change.