Odd how two far-left publications are pushing a (frankly completely stupid and redundant) argument calling the 7 day week tyrannical and then pushing a system that is actually tyrannical. Imagine each year having the exact same days/dates. Every 14th would be a Thursday every year for eternity. This is the need to control every aspect of peoples lives. Well and of course the destruction of the Christian week per the Bible.
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Yes, and?
Do I need to give you the "it's a feature, not a bug" speech?
What's your issue with holidays? Tradition is something that means a lot to people. Special events give you excitement and good memories/feelings, things to look forward to, etc. They are a much needed change of pace.
Because by and large they were hijacked by brazen consumerism decades ago.
Better to end the public observance, give people a month of personal holiday each year, and let the people who actually do give a shit about this or that holiday celebrate as they will.
I'm Quaker. Holidays kinda aren't a thing for us.
So we just cancel it all because le consumerism?
Plus, it is easy for you to say cancel it all when you already are part of a group that is against it. That's like when lesbians say men are useless and we should all just eradicate men.
Also paganism.
Basically what I'm saying is that my position is that celebrating these holidays should be beneath any Christian, or at least any who claim to not be Catholic.
I mean, cuz let's face it, we've been fighting the Catholics for five hundred years, they're not gonna change.
Before I say Quakers sound based, can you give me an example of a "subdued" (term from article) holiday celebration? For instance, what would a birthday or Father's Day look like?
It sounds similar to my personal stance, but I don't have the backing of community or religion. I mostly think forcing responsibilities of festivities into interpersonal relationships is in bad taste, and that adults should have the strength to choose when they'd like to engage celebrations. To put another way, focusing on a holiday to express something (often gratitude) creates the implication that you should hold back from expressing that outside of the holiday. Maybe I just feel like doing something for someone - saying it's because the calendar told me to cheapens whatever I did.
Don't, cuz the majority of the Yearlys are really, really pro-BLM. Paradoxically, the "conservative" Quakers are the most radically progressive because of what "conservative" means in the context of the Friends. The Conservative Friends rejected the shift to evangelicalism (like having pastors and programmed worship) but because of it they're the MOST culturally progressive.
Yearly: Every Friends church participates in a larger "yearly" meeting. The specific yearly they participates in denoting their specific branch of the faith. In the US there are a couple dozen yearlys, roughly grouped into four basic camps. These are the Conservatives, the Evangelical Friends, the Friends United Meeting, and the Friends General Conference. I for example grew up with the Iowa Yearly (Conservative) but right now I don't attend meetings because Iowa Yearly is... pretty leftist and I don't have any other meeting options.
Yes, precisely.
Now, you'd be hard pressed to find quakers who are SO uptight about fun that they don't do kids birthdays. But, like, worthy events to gather for would be accomplishments: graduations and weddings for example. Also Easter. Easter and the concept of the resurrection is waaaaay more important than Christmas, because part of our thing is that god is among everyone.
A good thing done wrong doesn't make the good thing suddenly a bad thing. You dont scrap the good thing, you just start doing it right.
Lol go create your utopia somewhere else commie
This originally WAS our utopia. Iowa was mostly Quaker in 1850.
Maybe if we hadn't sacrificed an entire generation cleaning up the founders' mess we'd still be the largest denomination in the midwest and people would say first day instead of sunday.