I may have some personal experience with a full blow leftist.
My older brother is unfortunately one of them. He is unhappy in his marriage, his health and his job and blames society for all of that. His dream society would be one were he can stay and read all day, not have to work, his wife doing everything. For some reason he thinks that communism and woke ideology would solve every one of his problem.
He somehow believes that under communism he does not have to work, despite the fact that under communism everyone worked. He also believes that he must be "on the gender spectrum" so he does not have to work towards a masculine ideal and be an actual husband and an actual father.
What he hates is people proving him wrong, people who work hard, workout, strive to be good husbands and fathers and are happy about it. So he likes any ideology that would hurt the average guy.
This wasn't directed at me, but I'm responding because my experiences seem relevant.
I am a person who has radically diverged from my immediate family both politically and culturally. 8 years ago, I was a very left-wing person. Now, I'm a nationalist and a populist, an anti-feminist, and completely devoid of white guilt.
There were two primary catalysts for this divergence:
my own catastrophic relationship with a predatory BPD girl, leading me to question everything I had ever been taught about social sexual hierarchies
The media going to bat for another BPD girl known as Zoe Quinn, leading me to question every media narrative in existence - past, present, and future
This is the perfect one-two punch for breaking free of indoctrination. A personal trauma shocked me out of the status quo and forced me to seek alternative explanations, and then additional real world events almost immediately confirmed the truth of what I had learned.
Once I saw through one set of lies, I became capable of seeing similar lies everywhere else. This is why the red pill metaphor is so apt. You never turn away from the truth if you came by it honest, through hardship and experience rather than "education".
In the end, it always comes back to education and media. Together, they erect and maintain the mental prison that holds people captive to irrational and evil ideologies. It takes a precipitating event to trigger an awaken from such a coma.
Then you need a place to land. For me, that place has been a moving target, safe for only a few months up to maybe a couple of years before it is inevitably captured or destroyed. We've left a graveyard of forums in our wake at this point. That's the goal of all oppressive systems: to make sure that anyone who manages to unplug will have nowhere safe to go.
Gamergate was the best non-personal thing to ever happen to me. It obviously doesn't hold a candle to my actual, real life milestones, but without GG, I would absolutely still be colorblind, humanist, and frustrated by my lack of understanding of why society doesn't work.
Gamergate was the event that started opening my eyes, which was the start of my second year of college. Unfortunately my beliefs were half-developed from Gamergate (I became anti-feminist, but was still “globalist-leaning”) before another event (that I partially instigated) opened my eyes completely.
Ditto for one and two, with slightly different politics. Still i think your martix metaphore is apt because the system certainly doesnt like 'programs' like ours, willing to speak up and call evils, despite the msm shilling for them in a wholly propogandic way. This whole covid agenda has made me realize just how stupid and incepid most people are whom look to newsmedia for any kind of guidance/
/u/currnet_horror and I don't get along, particularly along ideological lines, but the comparison and contrast may be useful to you.
I used to be "Left Libertarian" a while back, and I've come to realize my own family is damn near Communist.
From a long term perspective, part of my psyche is actually ingrained and abused to take too much responsibility for things that go wrong. My abuse actually taught me to take responsibility for other people's failures. Lo and behold, a woman with BPD was involved in this too.
HMMMMMMMMM
I didn't have a 1-2 punch, for me it was a much slower process. For me, no authority could be trusted because I had been so often been betrayed or predated upon by authority. It got so bad that my defense mechanism wasn't like others who had a technique of "gray rock" or just ditching people; I actually learned how to make my predators run away. Simply put, I promised that instead of burning a bridge that separated us, I'd burn the bridge that we were standing on. Lions don't follow Gazelles into Crocodile infested waters, so let's go swimming!
I'd be left with nothing. No support system at all... but also no predators and distractions. Ironically, I could focus on getting better by putting myself in a theoretically worse situation. I started to actually understand what "worse" really meant. Some things that sound bad, are not as bad as you think when you live through them, and when you do it willingly. That also taught me a bit of long term time preference.
As a result, freedom has always been more important to me than most other things. Horrible freedom is always better than suffocating pleasure. This has worked it's way into my political analysis as well. Every time I saw an established order making critical and dramatic failures (whether it was religion, the military, academia, or the political left) I pulled away. I butted heads. Sometimes I actively subverted the system to the benefit of everyone involved. When you refuse to comply with these failing systems, they sometimes push you out because you're more trouble than you're worth to them (which paralleled my experience with abuse).
The two things that finally deconverted me from the Left (an old Atheism term I'll go over if you want), was a better knowledge of economics, and the recognition that the Social Justice Racket was an industrial scale psychological and emotional abuse system.
I didn't realize it, but I'd believed in Austrian Economics for years before I knew what it was. I understood the concept of "emergent order" in physics, and it reinforces my belief that freedom must be the bedrock of all prosperous systems as it allows for a naturally beneficial order to emerge in the environment without someone at the top trying to install it. Once I understood Austrian Economics as, effectively, just Economics; I realized that order emerging naturally from chaos without coercion is almost always the most beneficial approach to most system. And I mean this in everything from computer programming, to education, to socialization, to natural ecosystems, and so forth.
But the other aspect was the horrifying realization that what I was seeing in the mainstream of every single institution was a form of abuse that I was intimately familiar with. I recognized the emotional abuse tactics. I recognized the predators. I recognized the coping and co-dependency mechanisms, and I was horrified. I was horrified that entire political wings were promoting this. I was horrified that the abuse was funded by international investment banks. I was horrified that academia and culture were pushing it as a moral imperative. I was horrified that social media had gamified the predation of the innocent. I was horrified that billions of dollars in technology and logistics had created a purely evil system. I recognized the similarity to the industrialization of abuse, to what the Holocaust did: the industrialization of murder.
Where me and my family differ is that they never got out of the captivity of these systems. They just became more ruthless, and thereby successful. These systems reward sociopathy. Even though my family butts heads with me politically, they do see me as a bizarrely moral person. As much as they may hate my politics by conditioning, they do instinctively recognize that my morality and principles are sound and important. They actually want me exposed to their kids because they know that they failed at something that I somehow developed: a very strong moral, principled, and virtuous core.
I don't mean to talk myself up as a kind of Jesus or something. The fact that "Good, we'll both die" is a defense strategy I came up with shows that isn't true. But what it shows is that their amorality is so severe, that strong morals of almost any kind are clearly important to them, even if they disagree with my morals.
Where Current_Horror and I fundamentally disagree is that, frankly, he believes in another system that I feel is destined to fail him: ethno-nationalism. To me, he is falling for yet another scam by yet another failed institution, that just happened to be abandoned by the Left in the mid 20th century. To me, he's hoping that there's salvation on this last framework if the right people are in charge. But what I am trying to tell everyone is that there is no salvation. But that's okay, you don't need any. You can actually save yourself.
Our biggest philosophical and mental difference probably lies here:
you need a place to land.
Actually, you don't. In fact, there is no place to land. You have to build a landing place for the future.
We don't have any communities. We don't have a home. These were all destroyed decades ago, many before we were born.
It is our duty as individuals to build those communities. It must be done from scratch. Once we build them, we're not finished. We must then teach our children to do the same, and then they will build their own communities; but this time, they'll have our knowledge in how to do it.
The phrase I've used is: you must build the community that you will be the pillar of.
Once we all do that, we will have a very well built, highly defendable, and mutually supporting structure: a real, no shit, community.
You don't build communities. You build homes, business, and roads to connect them all. The community is an emergent social property from the individual efforts to build those homes, families, and businesses that support each other. A community can't be built by a city planner with a strip mall and some houses next door.
Hopefully, some of us can learn that process in this very forum.
Emergence, as a mathematical concept, can actually be modeled in computer programming. Typically involving AI.
The first example you could use is something like "The Game of Life". The first thing it introduces you to is the idea that highly complex systems can develop from extremely simple rules. You set baseline parameters, and things can grow wildly and in highly unexpected ways, even to the point of a permanent pattern developing.
That can show you that an order can emerge without the strict imposition of all patterns from a programmer ahead of time.
From there, if we try to ask a computer to model a most optimal function through trial and error, and we give it the ability to identify which result was "best" so that it can be carried on to the next series of tests, as time progresses the computer will create a highly efficient model to do what we ask, even if the behavior is totally unexpected and/or wouldn't have been programmed.
This is how most AI Learning works by giving a computer a set of objectives, and trialing them out.
I wish i could reply to the whole post, but its a few points above my iq. I want to add with your family part here-
Where me and my family differ is that they never got out of the captivity of these systems. They just became more ruthless, and thereby successful. These systems reward sociopathy. Even though my family butts heads with me politically, they do see me as a bizarrely moral person. As much as they may hate my politics by conditioning, they do instinctively recognize that my morality and principles are sound and important. They actually want me exposed to their kids because they know that they failed at something that I somehow developed: a very strong moral, principled, and virtuous core.
It may also be that they are deeply narcissistic and manipulative people, and so they've told you want you wanted to hear from them, to keep you around, but are still the deeply rooted and self centered folks they have always been, which has likely always divided you from them at a young age.
And on the part about Current, I do agree, that's where i diverge with him as well. it sounds temping to run into the hands of racial support, but at the end of the day we are a multifaceted nation with many great citizens, none whom are defined by their genetics, (maybe kamala, lol) but there are great americans of every skin color, and only in this nation, could we have such a monumental pact. The seeing every problem as 'race' is WRONG, becasue it is politics (dems citys) and ECONOMICS (poverty fucks up all in its wrath), not race, and the unique american condition allows ALL, not just x y z race to win, to find success and self sacrifice, you cant say that about MOST nations in the world, without being a part of the 'predominant' in-group, whether it be racial, religious, or political. This country allows the TRUE minority to prosper. and thats not of any color of skin, but of value, and our virtues, with it. THAT is something to fight for.
The overwhelming focus on race only serves to divide us more, as a nation. and I fear thats what all of our enemies want (chyna, russia, and the new ones yet to be seen).
We need to work together, and one day achieve racial unity, once there, nothing will stop the best country this world has ever seen.
You need a place to land.
I fully agree with the rest of your insight. I have nothing to add, so I will keep it at that, we should build up these communities, because it will itself lead the way for a better tomorrow/ And I wanna thank you for this post, gizort, because Ive been dealing with some heavy bullshit in the preceeding weeks and through today, and norms death had made it an even shittyier one, one of those few comics i'd always enjoyed, maybe he will end up being one of the best of our time; regardless. Thanks for getting my mind of the assorted tragedies that I wont get into on a gamersub. And it's an excellent post, as usual, Gizort. Keep em comin/
Its those among us who will decide to build up this great nation, that will do so, and what better place to do it, then with the internets most infamous hive of bigots and sexists, and all my gg frens/ Cheers, bois. 🍷🎮 🐸
It may also be that they are deeply narcissistic and manipulative people, and so they've told you want you wanted to hear from them, to keep you around, but are still the deeply rooted and self centered folks they have always been, which has likely always divided you from them at a young age.
I can't give you the details, but we'd both see through that.
We need to work together, and one day achieve racial unity, once there, nothing will stop the best country this world has ever seen.
That's precisely why they have to kill us with subversion. An open war wouldn't work.
I'll give you a similar one. My brother is a nuts leftist too. I will give him a tiny bit of credit, as he does work a good job and has for a long time seems to not be totally atrocious at raising his kids even. Outside of that, he's all about their Covid stuff and the classical leftist koolaid like racism, free stuff, etc.
My dad is about the same politically as me, maybe a tiny bit less "redpilled" than I am but not by much. Mom is what I call a religious democrat, meaning the way I see it she thinks like a leftist in a lot of ways, but would never support them because of gays and abortion. We both grew up with both parents around. I was the antisocial nerd and he was the social butterfly. I really think this personality difference is a huge part of it. My mother would even tell you I was the stubborn think for himself kid, even to a fault at times. He was a gullible people pleaser, also often to a fault.
Take that personality and add in the fact that his wife is a raging leftist and he's kept up with so many immature leftist friends that never grew up he went to school with, and you have the difference.
Not the person you were responding to but my sister and I are different in just about every way. I think there's an element of both nature and nurture to everyone and that my sister and I both landed in different areas of the nature slider. Add that I'm the older sister who felt responsibility to set a good example and make my family proud, where she was the youngest and wanted to be first at something (thus got into things like boys and drugs at a young age) and you get two girls raised virtually the same but ending up very different people. One takes responsibility and the other needs to stand out so she plays the victim. That sort of thing.
where she was the youngest and wanted to be first at something (thus got into things like boys and drugs at a young age) and you get two girls raised virtually the same but ending up very different people
I'm curious how your parents handled that? Discipline goes a long way in course-correcting a child's bad behaviour.
My dad did his best but wasn't very present since he worked overtime and always had side projects (managing apartments, finishing his bachelors degree, flipping houses, etc) When we were young he tried grounding her but he couldn't ground her from school which is where all her friends were. They also lived close by so it was easy for her just to leave wherever he wasn't home and see them anyway. Mom let her get away with everything (unsure if she just didn't care or was letting my sister do what she wasn't able to get away with in her own youth). When we were older he tried to fix it by employing both of us, originally using the honor system, but eventually turning into her only being allowed into the houses if I was also there to supervise, so that turned into her not working for him anymore.
In her senior year we moved away from the town we grew up in to pretty much the country so any attempts for her to get with her old group would be 40mins one way of drive time and gas which neither she nor her friends were willing to do often.
I'm not a G.I.R.L. like you, but there are a lot of paralells with a certain family member of mine - its very interesting seeing the commonalities across genders. We could almost be related. But this is truly a rare post for you, congrats on popping your own 2nd comment cheery, after only a year, roflmao. It's time to participate a smidge more 🎲🎲
I can also answer this: they sat on their asses while people like me had to pay the bills.
It captured communism and socialism perfectly: middle class working hard only to get heavily taxed to pay for deadbeats to remain deadbeats.
I saw it for the microcosm for what it was and made it my mission to work myself out of that situation. Am still in it, but have established a plan to get out.
For some reason he thinks that communism and woke ideology would solve every one of his problem.
Not for some reason. He wants to be a parasite, it's as simple as that. It would be childish if he wasn't a full grown adult, but since he is it's just outright evil.
He also believes that he must be "on the gender spectrum"
What he hates is people proving him wrong, people who work hard, workout, strive to be good husbands and fathers and are happy about it. So he likes any ideology that would hurt the average guy.
There's a real terror there:
The realization that it's all your fault.
You hate everyone who you think did this to you, but that leaves you to be the center of all that hate. If you don't know how to fix it either; you can't help but become shattered psychologically by the fact that all the pain is all your fault and you don't know how to make it stop.
I think that a lot of people would rather die than face that truth. It's too horrible for them to contemplate. It would cause them real physical pain to have to face that. The self-delusions are safer, even if it makes you miserable forever. It's nothing compared to facing your history of failure all at once.
I can say; "hey, we are all Americans here. So we get to share this failure together, even if non of us are directly responsible for it. We hold the receipt."
Generally speaking, that works best at a younger age for males. I used to be a huge smart-ass and didn't know how to judge the line between hurtful and funny. A friend fixed that for me by literally smacking me upside the back of the head whenever I went too far.
I may have some personal experience with a full blow leftist.
He somehow believes that under communism he does not have to work, despite the fact that under communism everyone worked. He also believes that he must be "on the gender spectrum" so he does not have to work towards a masculine ideal and be an actual husband and an actual father.
What he hates is people proving him wrong, people who work hard, workout, strive to be good husbands and fathers and are happy about it. So he likes any ideology that would hurt the average guy.
So how did you turn out differently from your brother?
I am very interested in people who come from the same (or similar) situations, and yet end up on opposite sides of the spectrum.
This wasn't directed at me, but I'm responding because my experiences seem relevant.
I am a person who has radically diverged from my immediate family both politically and culturally. 8 years ago, I was a very left-wing person. Now, I'm a nationalist and a populist, an anti-feminist, and completely devoid of white guilt.
There were two primary catalysts for this divergence:
my own catastrophic relationship with a predatory BPD girl, leading me to question everything I had ever been taught about social sexual hierarchies
The media going to bat for another BPD girl known as Zoe Quinn, leading me to question every media narrative in existence - past, present, and future
This is the perfect one-two punch for breaking free of indoctrination. A personal trauma shocked me out of the status quo and forced me to seek alternative explanations, and then additional real world events almost immediately confirmed the truth of what I had learned.
Once I saw through one set of lies, I became capable of seeing similar lies everywhere else. This is why the red pill metaphor is so apt. You never turn away from the truth if you came by it honest, through hardship and experience rather than "education".
In the end, it always comes back to education and media. Together, they erect and maintain the mental prison that holds people captive to irrational and evil ideologies. It takes a precipitating event to trigger an awaken from such a coma.
Then you need a place to land. For me, that place has been a moving target, safe for only a few months up to maybe a couple of years before it is inevitably captured or destroyed. We've left a graveyard of forums in our wake at this point. That's the goal of all oppressive systems: to make sure that anyone who manages to unplug will have nowhere safe to go.
I apologise for rambling.
Gamergate was the best non-personal thing to ever happen to me. It obviously doesn't hold a candle to my actual, real life milestones, but without GG, I would absolutely still be colorblind, humanist, and frustrated by my lack of understanding of why society doesn't work.
Gamergate was the event that started opening my eyes, which was the start of my second year of college. Unfortunately my beliefs were half-developed from Gamergate (I became anti-feminist, but was still “globalist-leaning”) before another event (that I partially instigated) opened my eyes completely.
interesting, a predatory BPD girl was my initial catalyst as well
Ditto. Based insane sjws perpetuating our own freeing from the MSmatrix.
Same here...damn.
Holy shit, are you me? That's eerily similar to my own journey.
Ditto for one and two, with slightly different politics. Still i think your martix metaphore is apt because the system certainly doesnt like 'programs' like ours, willing to speak up and call evils, despite the msm shilling for them in a wholly propogandic way. This whole covid agenda has made me realize just how stupid and incepid most people are whom look to newsmedia for any kind of guidance/
/u/currnet_horror and I don't get along, particularly along ideological lines, but the comparison and contrast may be useful to you.
I used to be "Left Libertarian" a while back, and I've come to realize my own family is damn near Communist.
From a long term perspective, part of my psyche is actually ingrained and abused to take too much responsibility for things that go wrong. My abuse actually taught me to take responsibility for other people's failures. Lo and behold, a woman with BPD was involved in this too.
HMMMMMMMMM
I didn't have a 1-2 punch, for me it was a much slower process. For me, no authority could be trusted because I had been so often been betrayed or predated upon by authority. It got so bad that my defense mechanism wasn't like others who had a technique of "gray rock" or just ditching people; I actually learned how to make my predators run away. Simply put, I promised that instead of burning a bridge that separated us, I'd burn the bridge that we were standing on. Lions don't follow Gazelles into Crocodile infested waters, so let's go swimming!
I'd be left with nothing. No support system at all... but also no predators and distractions. Ironically, I could focus on getting better by putting myself in a theoretically worse situation. I started to actually understand what "worse" really meant. Some things that sound bad, are not as bad as you think when you live through them, and when you do it willingly. That also taught me a bit of long term time preference.
As a result, freedom has always been more important to me than most other things. Horrible freedom is always better than suffocating pleasure. This has worked it's way into my political analysis as well. Every time I saw an established order making critical and dramatic failures (whether it was religion, the military, academia, or the political left) I pulled away. I butted heads. Sometimes I actively subverted the system to the benefit of everyone involved. When you refuse to comply with these failing systems, they sometimes push you out because you're more trouble than you're worth to them (which paralleled my experience with abuse).
The two things that finally deconverted me from the Left (an old Atheism term I'll go over if you want), was a better knowledge of economics, and the recognition that the Social Justice Racket was an industrial scale psychological and emotional abuse system.
I didn't realize it, but I'd believed in Austrian Economics for years before I knew what it was. I understood the concept of "emergent order" in physics, and it reinforces my belief that freedom must be the bedrock of all prosperous systems as it allows for a naturally beneficial order to emerge in the environment without someone at the top trying to install it. Once I understood Austrian Economics as, effectively, just Economics; I realized that order emerging naturally from chaos without coercion is almost always the most beneficial approach to most system. And I mean this in everything from computer programming, to education, to socialization, to natural ecosystems, and so forth.
But the other aspect was the horrifying realization that what I was seeing in the mainstream of every single institution was a form of abuse that I was intimately familiar with. I recognized the emotional abuse tactics. I recognized the predators. I recognized the coping and co-dependency mechanisms, and I was horrified. I was horrified that entire political wings were promoting this. I was horrified that the abuse was funded by international investment banks. I was horrified that academia and culture were pushing it as a moral imperative. I was horrified that social media had gamified the predation of the innocent. I was horrified that billions of dollars in technology and logistics had created a purely evil system. I recognized the similarity to the industrialization of abuse, to what the Holocaust did: the industrialization of murder.
Where me and my family differ is that they never got out of the captivity of these systems. They just became more ruthless, and thereby successful. These systems reward sociopathy. Even though my family butts heads with me politically, they do see me as a bizarrely moral person. As much as they may hate my politics by conditioning, they do instinctively recognize that my morality and principles are sound and important. They actually want me exposed to their kids because they know that they failed at something that I somehow developed: a very strong moral, principled, and virtuous core.
I don't mean to talk myself up as a kind of Jesus or something. The fact that "Good, we'll both die" is a defense strategy I came up with shows that isn't true. But what it shows is that their amorality is so severe, that strong morals of almost any kind are clearly important to them, even if they disagree with my morals.
Where Current_Horror and I fundamentally disagree is that, frankly, he believes in another system that I feel is destined to fail him: ethno-nationalism. To me, he is falling for yet another scam by yet another failed institution, that just happened to be abandoned by the Left in the mid 20th century. To me, he's hoping that there's salvation on this last framework if the right people are in charge. But what I am trying to tell everyone is that there is no salvation. But that's okay, you don't need any. You can actually save yourself.
Our biggest philosophical and mental difference probably lies here:
Actually, you don't. In fact, there is no place to land. You have to build a landing place for the future.
We don't have any communities. We don't have a home. These were all destroyed decades ago, many before we were born.
It is our duty as individuals to build those communities. It must be done from scratch. Once we build them, we're not finished. We must then teach our children to do the same, and then they will build their own communities; but this time, they'll have our knowledge in how to do it.
The phrase I've used is: you must build the community that you will be the pillar of.
Once we all do that, we will have a very well built, highly defendable, and mutually supporting structure: a real, no shit, community.
You don't build communities. You build homes, business, and roads to connect them all. The community is an emergent social property from the individual efforts to build those homes, families, and businesses that support each other. A community can't be built by a city planner with a strip mall and some houses next door.
Hopefully, some of us can learn that process in this very forum.
Would you kindly elaborate?
Sorry for the late response.
Emergence, as a mathematical concept, can actually be modeled in computer programming. Typically involving AI.
The first example you could use is something like "The Game of Life". The first thing it introduces you to is the idea that highly complex systems can develop from extremely simple rules. You set baseline parameters, and things can grow wildly and in highly unexpected ways, even to the point of a permanent pattern developing.
That can show you that an order can emerge without the strict imposition of all patterns from a programmer ahead of time.
From there, if we try to ask a computer to model a most optimal function through trial and error, and we give it the ability to identify which result was "best" so that it can be carried on to the next series of tests, as time progresses the computer will create a highly efficient model to do what we ask, even if the behavior is totally unexpected and/or wouldn't have been programmed.
This is how most AI Learning works by giving a computer a set of objectives, and trialing them out.
I wish i could reply to the whole post, but its a few points above my iq. I want to add with your family part here-
It may also be that they are deeply narcissistic and manipulative people, and so they've told you want you wanted to hear from them, to keep you around, but are still the deeply rooted and self centered folks they have always been, which has likely always divided you from them at a young age.
And on the part about Current, I do agree, that's where i diverge with him as well. it sounds temping to run into the hands of racial support, but at the end of the day we are a multifaceted nation with many great citizens, none whom are defined by their genetics, (maybe kamala, lol) but there are great americans of every skin color, and only in this nation, could we have such a monumental pact. The seeing every problem as 'race' is WRONG, becasue it is politics (dems citys) and ECONOMICS (poverty fucks up all in its wrath), not race, and the unique american condition allows ALL, not just x y z race to win, to find success and self sacrifice, you cant say that about MOST nations in the world, without being a part of the 'predominant' in-group, whether it be racial, religious, or political. This country allows the TRUE minority to prosper. and thats not of any color of skin, but of value, and our virtues, with it. THAT is something to fight for.
The overwhelming focus on race only serves to divide us more, as a nation. and I fear thats what all of our enemies want (chyna, russia, and the new ones yet to be seen).
We need to work together, and one day achieve racial unity, once there, nothing will stop the best country this world has ever seen.
I fully agree with the rest of your insight. I have nothing to add, so I will keep it at that, we should build up these communities, because it will itself lead the way for a better tomorrow/ And I wanna thank you for this post, gizort, because Ive been dealing with some heavy bullshit in the preceeding weeks and through today, and norms death had made it an even shittyier one, one of those few comics i'd always enjoyed, maybe he will end up being one of the best of our time; regardless. Thanks for getting my mind of the assorted tragedies that I wont get into on a gamersub. And it's an excellent post, as usual, Gizort. Keep em comin/
Its those among us who will decide to build up this great nation, that will do so, and what better place to do it, then with the internets most infamous hive of bigots and sexists, and all my gg frens/ Cheers, bois. 🍷🎮 🐸
I can't give you the details, but we'd both see through that.
That's precisely why they have to kill us with subversion. An open war wouldn't work.
I'll give you a similar one. My brother is a nuts leftist too. I will give him a tiny bit of credit, as he does work a good job and has for a long time seems to not be totally atrocious at raising his kids even. Outside of that, he's all about their Covid stuff and the classical leftist koolaid like racism, free stuff, etc.
My dad is about the same politically as me, maybe a tiny bit less "redpilled" than I am but not by much. Mom is what I call a religious democrat, meaning the way I see it she thinks like a leftist in a lot of ways, but would never support them because of gays and abortion. We both grew up with both parents around. I was the antisocial nerd and he was the social butterfly. I really think this personality difference is a huge part of it. My mother would even tell you I was the stubborn think for himself kid, even to a fault at times. He was a gullible people pleaser, also often to a fault.
Take that personality and add in the fact that his wife is a raging leftist and he's kept up with so many immature leftist friends that never grew up he went to school with, and you have the difference.
Not the person you were responding to but my sister and I are different in just about every way. I think there's an element of both nature and nurture to everyone and that my sister and I both landed in different areas of the nature slider. Add that I'm the older sister who felt responsibility to set a good example and make my family proud, where she was the youngest and wanted to be first at something (thus got into things like boys and drugs at a young age) and you get two girls raised virtually the same but ending up very different people. One takes responsibility and the other needs to stand out so she plays the victim. That sort of thing.
I'm curious how your parents handled that? Discipline goes a long way in course-correcting a child's bad behaviour.
My dad did his best but wasn't very present since he worked overtime and always had side projects (managing apartments, finishing his bachelors degree, flipping houses, etc) When we were young he tried grounding her but he couldn't ground her from school which is where all her friends were. They also lived close by so it was easy for her just to leave wherever he wasn't home and see them anyway. Mom let her get away with everything (unsure if she just didn't care or was letting my sister do what she wasn't able to get away with in her own youth). When we were older he tried to fix it by employing both of us, originally using the honor system, but eventually turning into her only being allowed into the houses if I was also there to supervise, so that turned into her not working for him anymore.
In her senior year we moved away from the town we grew up in to pretty much the country so any attempts for her to get with her old group would be 40mins one way of drive time and gas which neither she nor her friends were willing to do often.
I'm not a G.I.R.L. like you, but there are a lot of paralells with a certain family member of mine - its very interesting seeing the commonalities across genders. We could almost be related. But this is truly a rare post for you, congrats on popping your own 2nd comment cheery, after only a year, roflmao. It's time to participate a smidge more 🎲🎲
Are you confused? I've only had an account on .win for about 2 weeks and I've commented in other communities...
I can also answer this: they sat on their asses while people like me had to pay the bills.
It captured communism and socialism perfectly: middle class working hard only to get heavily taxed to pay for deadbeats to remain deadbeats.
I saw it for the microcosm for what it was and made it my mission to work myself out of that situation. Am still in it, but have established a plan to get out.
What if, there was NO spoon? Would you have even known it was there, if I hadn't told you? -The inner matrix
Not for some reason. He wants to be a parasite, it's as simple as that. It would be childish if he wasn't a full grown adult, but since he is it's just outright evil.
I rest my case.
Yes that's why I said it was a lie. It's just a whole ball of lies and hypocrisies wrapped around one another.
There's a real terror there:
The realization that it's all your fault.
You hate everyone who you think did this to you, but that leaves you to be the center of all that hate. If you don't know how to fix it either; you can't help but become shattered psychologically by the fact that all the pain is all your fault and you don't know how to make it stop.
I think that a lot of people would rather die than face that truth. It's too horrible for them to contemplate. It would cause them real physical pain to have to face that. The self-delusions are safer, even if it makes you miserable forever. It's nothing compared to facing your history of failure all at once.
I can say; "hey, we are all Americans here. So we get to share this failure together, even if non of us are directly responsible for it. We hold the receipt."
He who does not work, neither shall he eat - Vladimir Lenin.
Talk about the Devil quoting scripture...
"No Ice Cream for you, Comrade"
Communist plot twist!
He who works will still have nothing to eat.
You cannot beat the shit out of some one that is full of it, there would be nothing left.
Okay, I'm failing to see the downside to that.
Generally speaking, that works best at a younger age for males. I used to be a huge smart-ass and didn't know how to judge the line between hurtful and funny. A friend fixed that for me by literally smacking me upside the back of the head whenever I went too far.
Good friends don't care if they hurt your feelings when you are being a jackass. Otherwise, they are not good friends!