The Afghan Debacle
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I'm surprised Afghanistan only costed 3 trillion USD over 20 years.
I guess BS money printer go BRRR pandemic spending has really desensitized me to government waste.
I want my taxes refunded. What an absolute farce.
Seems like a downright discount, nowadays. But you must remember, money was worth a lot more back then, before they printed 5 trillion of it in a single year.
I wonder how this would have played out if they'd left during the Trump administration. I know that was still the plan. but he did seem to have a way with middle east politics that all went to shit the second someone else was in office. Perhaps just the threat of "fuck around and find out" being a bit more imminent as a deterrent.
Still absolutely ridiculous to abandon a full airbase somewhere. I mean the US has airbases all over the world already, and you have one already built in a good strategic location and just leave it? Ridiculous
Remember the Iranian general who got whacked with the Hellfire missile that doesn't have a warhead, it just has a bunch of swords strapped to it?
That's the kind of foreign policy these people understand and respect.
The middle east is all about backing up words with action.
In other words, trump showed he had balls. He killed a general (rightfully so, too), and everyone knew it. It wasn't a quiet thing.
Dems are cowards. Remember the red line in Syria? Obama sure didn't.
Right now all of the Taliban tops are out in the open figuratively and literally, probably running open comms via. Phone and radio.
They are ripe for a decapitation strike campaign. Kill anyone who is in a leadership role, then kill everyone who steps in.
But what is going to happen is the B52s airborne now will be dropping bombs to crater runways and wreck aircraft, as well as fucking up general infrastructure. And then the Taliban will show a bunch of dead civilians and scream on their official twitter account.
becuz the red line was faked.
Yeah that's what I was thinking. Just the threat of "we can and we will" is enough. They know damn well the Harris administration won't.
He wasn't actually planning to "just leave". The withdrawal was supposed to be conditions based. Doubtful the Taliban would have held up their end after US soldiers were totally gone, but it wouldn't have happened so fast.
trump was consistently against war and his envoys lied to him about troop levels to prevent any more coming home.
American global power is over and finished.
Btw the famine: the fat fuck Michael Moore in his Bowling for Columbine mischaracterised the pre-war American humanitarian aid to starving civilian population as the American aid to the T boys.
Their people weren't terrorized. Even the bombing was largely of the remote bare mountains. Most of stuff dropped from air at populated areas was food (because the country was starving due to T mismanagement).
Most of the dead are either the T or people killed by them.
Medical reprercussions in Afghanistan 20 years later: life expectancy up 20 years, population now doubled.
Ex Yugoslavia's doing fine. No comparison to the time they were genociding each other.
I don't think it's things worse than let's say seeing your little daughter being deliberately shot in the throat by a sniper, but that's me.
I can see how you’d think that but I dunno, bro. We literally terrorized a whole country for 20 years and we’re about to like just get away with it. We’ll call it a tragedy with a serious tone in a few speeches here and there but then, outside of a few folks well have written off as woke weirdos, the entire western world is just gonna move on. The absolute worst repercussion for anyone close to being in charge of the war on terror is going to be like a bad performance review for some dude in an obscure defense industry consulting firm. Anyone that takes any amount of time to roll the idea around in their head will see it and there’s nothing they can do about it.
More exactly, he said something like "is not the South... North Vietnamese army".
Also Russia is already preparing the recognise the "sensible" Taliban. Maybe even already did.
Russia also pressures Tajikistan to deny its use for a counter-terrorism base that America wanted to have for Afghanistan against AQ and IS elements.
China too
And as for the evacuation - they're moving an artillery unit, apparently for a counter-battery mission at the Kabul Airport in the case of shelling.
It would be nice if they still had Bagram Airbase (which now belongs to the T, along with thousands of American vehicles just left there behind during the middle-of-the-night secret evacuation 3 weeks ago).
2,41,000 people killed
Russia tamed afghanistan to be fair.. but we got in the way.