Otherwise, refusing to get a COVID-19 vaccine, if your employer requires one, “is akin to an employee’s refusal to submit to permissible drug tests or participate in safety trainings,” said Ronald Zambrano, employment law chair at West Coast Trial Lawyers, a Los Angeles–based law firm. That is, such an employee, when terminated, would not qualify for unemployment benefits, Zambrano said
Not until someone sues them and takes this to the supreme court. At which point the highest court in the country is going to be forced to say "it is okay for corporations to force you to take any medical treatments they want without your consent", and as weak and pathetic as they are, they're smart enough not to do that. That would be the moment that begins the second civil war.
The willingness of the left to weaponize our court system over any minor perceived slight and the unwillingness of the right to defend themselves over actual genocide is the primary reason for the current political imbalance.
Should have? At least a dozen. But that's only because my school of thought is "any government that starts even sniffing at totalitarianism should be burned down instantly, no questions asked". Most people do not adhere to that philosophy. Bread and circuses, you know.
But the supreme court declaring corporations are allowed to perform medical experimentation on their employees would absolutely shatter the country politically. People are still angry about the Tuskegee syphilis study, something that happened nearly a hundred years ago and affected a total of 600 people. "Walmart says take this mystery injection or you're homeless" is much, much worse than that and people know it.
It would create two polarized groups: one very large, extraordinarily angry group that believes the federal corporatocracy needs to be destroyed and the people in charge need to face justice immediately, and another group of DNC diehards who would defend their chosen political side to the death no matter what they do. At that point, there is no reconciliation. America is already so fractured that there's almost no chance of ever recovering. There's no way it could withstand yet another political balkanization.
But the supreme court declaring corporations are allowed to perform medical experimentation on their employees would absolutely shatter the country politically.
The Supreme Court once told Americans that criminal sterilization, Japanese internment camps were ok, and passed the NFA and nobody cared, so.
Thing is the covax "hesitancy" is vastly greater among African Americans. Where I work you still have to wear a mask if not vaccinated. Most of the African Americans still wear masks. It's almost embraassing because it looks like there must be a dress code rule requiring masking if blacks or something. Will be a PR and staffing nightmare if they all had to leave. That's the reason of the big scary bluff right now. Employers acting tough to get employees to voluntarily get the vax because they know they can't force them (see Doe v. Rumsfeld, 2003 https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/cases/vaccines/Doe_v_Rumsfeld_I.htm). Anyway, places can't operate if 40% of the staff quits.
Kicking men out of the workplace by mandating something that ruins their hearts. Clever. They win either way, either we die from the vaccine or we die from starvation.
They're going to approve Pfizer next month. This despite the fact that Pfizer deliberately sabotaged their own control group, which means there is no data to support FDA approval.
I see. I opened the article, and I noticed that it's in the very title.
I also noticed that the name of the author is 'Elizabeth Buchwald', which you and some of your 'friends' will love for different reasons, but which I love because it's so close to 'Buchenwald'.
I think that won't work. Some of the colleges in my area are requiring all students to be vaccinating, including those who are only taking classes online. If colleges can do that, why can't businesses do it for employees who are working remotely?
They really, really seem to want me to go full anarchist. Fuck the system, fuck the Feds. Liberty or death.
Also, the absolute fucking nerve - and mental gymnastics - of these fucks. The vaccine is allegedly for our own good. After all, everyone that wants a vaccine, can get one. We've been at that stage for a while now. Too many people have already gotten the jab, but that's a separate discussion. How the fuck is starving people out of society helping them.
In the US if you quit your job you're not eligible for unemployment anyway, make them fire you.
Still won't work, most likely.
Not until someone sues them and takes this to the supreme court. At which point the highest court in the country is going to be forced to say "it is okay for corporations to force you to take any medical treatments they want without your consent", and as weak and pathetic as they are, they're smart enough not to do that. That would be the moment that begins the second civil war.
The willingness of the left to weaponize our court system over any minor perceived slight and the unwillingness of the right to defend themselves over actual genocide is the primary reason for the current political imbalance.
How many moments have we had that should have started the second civil war by now?
Should have? At least a dozen. But that's only because my school of thought is "any government that starts even sniffing at totalitarianism should be burned down instantly, no questions asked". Most people do not adhere to that philosophy. Bread and circuses, you know.
But the supreme court declaring corporations are allowed to perform medical experimentation on their employees would absolutely shatter the country politically. People are still angry about the Tuskegee syphilis study, something that happened nearly a hundred years ago and affected a total of 600 people. "Walmart says take this mystery injection or you're homeless" is much, much worse than that and people know it.
It would create two polarized groups: one very large, extraordinarily angry group that believes the federal corporatocracy needs to be destroyed and the people in charge need to face justice immediately, and another group of DNC diehards who would defend their chosen political side to the death no matter what they do. At that point, there is no reconciliation. America is already so fractured that there's almost no chance of ever recovering. There's no way it could withstand yet another political balkanization.
"It's not censorship if a corporation does it"
"It's not a war crime if a corporation does it"
The Supreme Court once told Americans that criminal sterilization, Japanese internment camps were ok, and passed the NFA and nobody cared, so.
Yeah that Supreme Court really came in handy in the 2020 election, didn’t it.
I wondered about the downvote then I saw your username. I’ve got your back on this one. The truth is the truth.
He probably is not being sarcastic...thinks the SCROUTUS was handy, did the right thing.
I see.
Or female.
Well you have to be working in the first place for that to apply.
Thing is the covax "hesitancy" is vastly greater among African Americans. Where I work you still have to wear a mask if not vaccinated. Most of the African Americans still wear masks. It's almost embraassing because it looks like there must be a dress code rule requiring masking if blacks or something. Will be a PR and staffing nightmare if they all had to leave. That's the reason of the big scary bluff right now. Employers acting tough to get employees to voluntarily get the vax because they know they can't force them (see Doe v. Rumsfeld, 2003 https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/cases/vaccines/Doe_v_Rumsfeld_I.htm). Anyway, places can't operate if 40% of the staff quits.
Kicking men out of the workplace by mandating something that ruins their hearts. Clever. They win either way, either we die from the vaccine or we die from starvation.
Before one dies, exact a price.
Die for something ; don't live for nothing.
Never let them take you alive.
Nobody should quit force them to fire you then sue them
can't you just say you've had the vaccine? isn't it a violation of medical rights for them to demand you show them your medical file as proof?
I know I know. laws do not apply equally, or when inconvenient.
They'll repeal HIPAA too, don't worry.
Dope, you spelled hipaa right
Might work if you're a woman. They usually get away with more than everyone else.
Just remember the vaccine still isn't FDA approved yet. You're basically being forced to get an experimental drug.
They're going to approve Pfizer next month. This despite the fact that Pfizer deliberately sabotaged their own control group, which means there is no data to support FDA approval.
Yep. One that is known to cause heart conditions in men as well.
I'm sure that's a coincidence.
Doesn't it screw up women's health just as bad?
Not. Yet.
Then don't quit. Let them fire you.
That won't work either.
I see. I opened the article, and I noticed that it's in the very title.
I also noticed that the name of the author is 'Elizabeth Buchwald', which you and some of your 'friends' will love for different reasons, but which I love because it's so close to 'Buchenwald'.
Why not both?
I think that won't work. Some of the colleges in my area are requiring all students to be vaccinating, including those who are only taking classes online. If colleges can do that, why can't businesses do it for employees who are working remotely?
They really, really seem to want me to go full anarchist. Fuck the system, fuck the Feds. Liberty or death.
Also, the absolute fucking nerve - and mental gymnastics - of these fucks. The vaccine is allegedly for our own good. After all, everyone that wants a vaccine, can get one. We've been at that stage for a while now. Too many people have already gotten the jab, but that's a separate discussion. How the fuck is starving people out of society helping them.
I'm with this tweet
Seriously, fuck off an leave me alone.
Interesting strategy, let's see how that works out for you