Otherwise, refusing to get a COVID-19 vaccine, if your employer requires one, “is akin to an employee’s refusal to submit to permissible drug tests or participate in safety trainings,” said Ronald Zambrano, employment law chair at West Coast Trial Lawyers, a Los Angeles–based law firm. That is, such an employee, when terminated, would not qualify for unemployment benefits, Zambrano said
Not until someone sues them and takes this to the supreme court. At which point the highest court in the country is going to be forced to say "it is okay for corporations to force you to take any medical treatments they want without your consent", and as weak and pathetic as they are, they're smart enough not to do that. That would be the moment that begins the second civil war.
The willingness of the left to weaponize our court system over any minor perceived slight and the unwillingness of the right to defend themselves over actual genocide is the primary reason for the current political imbalance.
Should have? At least a dozen. But that's only because my school of thought is "any government that starts even sniffing at totalitarianism should be burned down instantly, no questions asked". Most people do not adhere to that philosophy. Bread and circuses, you know.
But the supreme court declaring corporations are allowed to perform medical experimentation on their employees would absolutely shatter the country politically. People are still angry about the Tuskegee syphilis study, something that happened nearly a hundred years ago and affected a total of 600 people. "Walmart says take this mystery injection or you're homeless" is much, much worse than that and people know it.
It would create two polarized groups: one very large, extraordinarily angry group that believes the federal corporatocracy needs to be destroyed and the people in charge need to face justice immediately, and another group of DNC diehards who would defend their chosen political side to the death no matter what they do. At that point, there is no reconciliation. America is already so fractured that there's almost no chance of ever recovering. There's no way it could withstand yet another political balkanization.
Thing is the covax "hesitancy" is vastly greater among African Americans. Where I work you still have to wear a mask if not vaccinated. Most of the African Americans still wear masks. It's almost embraassing because it looks like there must be a dress code rule requiring masking if blacks or something. Will be a PR and staffing nightmare if they all had to leave. That's the reason of the big scary bluff right now. Employers acting tough to get employees to voluntarily get the vax because they know they can't force them (see Doe v. Rumsfeld, 2003 https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/cases/vaccines/Doe_v_Rumsfeld_I.htm). Anyway, places can't operate if 40% of the staff quits.
In the US if you quit your job you're not eligible for unemployment anyway, make them fire you.
Still won't work, most likely.
Not until someone sues them and takes this to the supreme court. At which point the highest court in the country is going to be forced to say "it is okay for corporations to force you to take any medical treatments they want without your consent", and as weak and pathetic as they are, they're smart enough not to do that. That would be the moment that begins the second civil war.
The willingness of the left to weaponize our court system over any minor perceived slight and the unwillingness of the right to defend themselves over actual genocide is the primary reason for the current political imbalance.
How many moments have we had that should have started the second civil war by now?
Should have? At least a dozen. But that's only because my school of thought is "any government that starts even sniffing at totalitarianism should be burned down instantly, no questions asked". Most people do not adhere to that philosophy. Bread and circuses, you know.
But the supreme court declaring corporations are allowed to perform medical experimentation on their employees would absolutely shatter the country politically. People are still angry about the Tuskegee syphilis study, something that happened nearly a hundred years ago and affected a total of 600 people. "Walmart says take this mystery injection or you're homeless" is much, much worse than that and people know it.
It would create two polarized groups: one very large, extraordinarily angry group that believes the federal corporatocracy needs to be destroyed and the people in charge need to face justice immediately, and another group of DNC diehards who would defend their chosen political side to the death no matter what they do. At that point, there is no reconciliation. America is already so fractured that there's almost no chance of ever recovering. There's no way it could withstand yet another political balkanization.
Yeah that Supreme Court really came in handy in the 2020 election, didn’t it.
I wondered about the downvote then I saw your username. I’ve got your back on this one. The truth is the truth.
I see.
Or female.
Well you have to be working in the first place for that to apply.
Thing is the covax "hesitancy" is vastly greater among African Americans. Where I work you still have to wear a mask if not vaccinated. Most of the African Americans still wear masks. It's almost embraassing because it looks like there must be a dress code rule requiring masking if blacks or something. Will be a PR and staffing nightmare if they all had to leave. That's the reason of the big scary bluff right now. Employers acting tough to get employees to voluntarily get the vax because they know they can't force them (see Doe v. Rumsfeld, 2003 https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/cases/vaccines/Doe_v_Rumsfeld_I.htm). Anyway, places can't operate if 40% of the staff quits.