He would have to take a gap year since transfer applications were due 9 months ago. He would also have to explain in his applications why he took a gap year, and saying that he refused to get the COVID jab as the reason would probably get him rejected by 95% of universities.
Lockdowns crushed enrollment. Almost all universities work on a corporate "infinite growth" assumption. Covid saw many universities take a dip in enrollment for the first time in decades. Education is a bubble a century in the making and it's never popped. It's coming.
I'm so glad I graduated college before all this stupidity took hold...they were still pretty woke back then but it wasn't nearly this bad.
I liked everything about it...the experience of being away from home, a different environment, a taste of the work-school life, all the parties and new friendships, and the fact I bagged a job before graduating which I worked at for many years following.
I love Torba, but I’m not a fan of these documents for two reasons.
They all seem to rely on the reasoning that these vaccines are unacceptable due to their origin from fetal cells. But really now, would we accept mandatory vaccination if they weren’t? I find this disgusting as well but if they made a clean vaccine I wouldn’t take it either.
It relies too heavily on citing famous church leaders as supporting evidence. I don’t need a pastor to justify my decision, and many pastors are cucked and would happily take the other side of the argument.
For me this is much simpler. I am a Christian, not a particular denomination, just a Christian, and my body is God’s temple. To inject some foreign substance into my body would be equivalent to desecrating that temple, and so I refuse your evil vaccine.
What is my authority on this? God.
Done. Don’t accept that? Ok well my God allows me to defend myself with deadly force…
For number 2: a lot of religious exemption laws specifically require that it be a position or doctrine of an "established" religion. So yes, "proof" that religious leaders said the same thing is actually required much of the time. It's how religious exemption gets quietly denied. It shouldn't be that way, but it often is.
As for number 1, well, that's just the most legally defensible position of the above.
Those in a position where they actually need such a document are already fighting an uphill battle to use the law to protect them. The correct course of action is of course to quit the job, don't go to the college, etc. If "I refuse" isn't good enough for them, they are evil and you should turn the other way.
The military is the tough one though, and if they haven't already stood their ground on all the other injections they've been stuck with, it's very unlikely any piece of paper is going to save them from this one. I expect dishonorable discharge for refusing will soon be the only way out for them.
I expect dishonorable discharge for refusing will soon be the only way out for them.
Refusal to move to a new duty station (while continuing to serve at your current one) typically results in no more than a "may not re-enlist after end of service" code on one's discharge papers, and anyone who has re-enlisted must refuse their final move (fun little trick, that).
I'd actually expect anyone who declines the jab to get the same discharge status they would otherwise have gotten - at worst, general under honorable conditions, which can be upgraded to honorable through administrative action after service.
Furthermore, if an other-than-honorable discharge is the result of not getting stuck, commanding officers are going to start outright defying the vaccination orders in some parts of the military where commanders are generally more based.
For number 2: a lot of religious exemption laws specifically require that it be a position or doctrine of an "established" religion. So yes, "proof" that religious leaders said the same thing is actually required much of the time. It's how religious exemption gets quietly denied. It shouldn't be that way, but it often is.
Ah, well that is BS. I'd fight that in court, and I think I'd win. It's in the Bible after all.
We would all win anything in court if the judge was honest and a constitutionalist.
In that world the Judge would render summary judgement against whoever was stupid enough to try and violate your rights by forcing you to get an experimental injection, and that person would see jail time with only the smallest of opportunities to try and defend their heinous actions.
But we don't live in a world with honest constitutionalist judges, that's pretty much the crux of our problems. Legally speaking.
It's legit in that it is recognized by the government. Quite a large number of smaller churches and groups utilize their "ordination" to allow the pastor to legally preform marriages, as proof of ordination is required when filing the license with the local county.
It would "help," in that some religious exemption laws require your reasoning to be doctrine of an established religion. You might not need any additional proof if you can show that you are a "licensed preacher."
I say might, cause there's no guarantee that would work. I think we are going to see a lot of religious exemption claims denied. When people in power have already decided people don't have the right to refuse, they will just ignore things they see as nothing more than a loophole.
How does this work if you’ve already had other vaccines? My parents aren’t anti-vaxxers, so they got me all the childhood vaccines. You can’t really say the “unclean” vaccine will destroy your pure bodily temple when you’ve already had a dozen of them before.
Sure you can? Why not? It wasn't your choice to get those vaccines as a child. All of Christianity rests on the notion that you can become clean again after sin.
Well, and there may be reasons why you would consider those vaccines "clean" while this one not. You may have to come up with a specific reason though.
God bless Andrew Torba. What a glorious shitlord.
My son decalred a religious objection signed by our pastor. The university denied it.
Sue them for religious discrimination under the Civil Rights Act.
This is the way
Take your money to another university, they're not all doing it.
He would have to take a gap year since transfer applications were due 9 months ago. He would also have to explain in his applications why he took a gap year, and saying that he refused to get the COVID jab as the reason would probably get him rejected by 95% of universities.
How so? As far as I’m aware, enrollment is as high as ever.
Lockdowns crushed enrollment. Almost all universities work on a corporate "infinite growth" assumption. Covid saw many universities take a dip in enrollment for the first time in decades. Education is a bubble a century in the making and it's never popped. It's coming.
He doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
I'm so glad I graduated college before all this stupidity took hold...they were still pretty woke back then but it wasn't nearly this bad.
I liked everything about it...the experience of being away from home, a different environment, a taste of the work-school life, all the parties and new friendships, and the fact I bagged a job before graduating which I worked at for many years following.
It will only work for as long as you're not required to present physical proof.
It's a piece of paper with hand written scribbles on it.
Vax cards.
The problem with that is claiming you got your cuck shot like a good little consumer legitimizes this whole clown show.
Of course it's easy for me to say, my employer's rules are basically "don't ask, don't tell" and I work from home anyway.
I love Torba, but I’m not a fan of these documents for two reasons.
They all seem to rely on the reasoning that these vaccines are unacceptable due to their origin from fetal cells. But really now, would we accept mandatory vaccination if they weren’t? I find this disgusting as well but if they made a clean vaccine I wouldn’t take it either.
It relies too heavily on citing famous church leaders as supporting evidence. I don’t need a pastor to justify my decision, and many pastors are cucked and would happily take the other side of the argument.
For me this is much simpler. I am a Christian, not a particular denomination, just a Christian, and my body is God’s temple. To inject some foreign substance into my body would be equivalent to desecrating that temple, and so I refuse your evil vaccine.
What is my authority on this? God.
Done. Don’t accept that? Ok well my God allows me to defend myself with deadly force…
For number 2: a lot of religious exemption laws specifically require that it be a position or doctrine of an "established" religion. So yes, "proof" that religious leaders said the same thing is actually required much of the time. It's how religious exemption gets quietly denied. It shouldn't be that way, but it often is.
As for number 1, well, that's just the most legally defensible position of the above.
Those in a position where they actually need such a document are already fighting an uphill battle to use the law to protect them. The correct course of action is of course to quit the job, don't go to the college, etc. If "I refuse" isn't good enough for them, they are evil and you should turn the other way.
The military is the tough one though, and if they haven't already stood their ground on all the other injections they've been stuck with, it's very unlikely any piece of paper is going to save them from this one. I expect dishonorable discharge for refusing will soon be the only way out for them.
Refusal to move to a new duty station (while continuing to serve at your current one) typically results in no more than a "may not re-enlist after end of service" code on one's discharge papers, and anyone who has re-enlisted must refuse their final move (fun little trick, that).
I'd actually expect anyone who declines the jab to get the same discharge status they would otherwise have gotten - at worst, general under honorable conditions, which can be upgraded to honorable through administrative action after service.
Furthermore, if an other-than-honorable discharge is the result of not getting stuck, commanding officers are going to start outright defying the vaccination orders in some parts of the military where commanders are generally more based.
Ah, well that is BS. I'd fight that in court, and I think I'd win. It's in the Bible after all.
We would all win anything in court if the judge was honest and a constitutionalist.
In that world the Judge would render summary judgement against whoever was stupid enough to try and violate your rights by forcing you to get an experimental injection, and that person would see jail time with only the smallest of opportunities to try and defend their heinous actions.
But we don't live in a world with honest constitutionalist judges, that's pretty much the crux of our problems. Legally speaking.
God bless this man. I expect him to be martyred.
Or you could also just go to universal ministries to be an ordained minister. Cost me about $100 a decade ago.
Is that legit though? I just looked it up and weirdly intrigued xD
And, in what way would that help this vaccine thing?
It's legit in that it is recognized by the government. Quite a large number of smaller churches and groups utilize their "ordination" to allow the pastor to legally preform marriages, as proof of ordination is required when filing the license with the local county.
It would "help," in that some religious exemption laws require your reasoning to be doctrine of an established religion. You might not need any additional proof if you can show that you are a "licensed preacher."
I say might, cause there's no guarantee that would work. I think we are going to see a lot of religious exemption claims denied. When people in power have already decided people don't have the right to refuse, they will just ignore things they see as nothing more than a loophole.
How does this work if you’ve already had other vaccines? My parents aren’t anti-vaxxers, so they got me all the childhood vaccines. You can’t really say the “unclean” vaccine will destroy your pure bodily temple when you’ve already had a dozen of them before.
Sure you can? Why not? It wasn't your choice to get those vaccines as a child. All of Christianity rests on the notion that you can become clean again after sin.
That’s a good point! I didn’t consider it.
Well, and there may be reasons why you would consider those vaccines "clean" while this one not. You may have to come up with a specific reason though.