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The United States of Failed Cities - this might be a bit too "academic" for some people's liking, but it raises some good points on your (we have a couple heading that way, but we're not really there yet) failing urban cores... (www.smartcitiesdive.com)
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– xleb2 36 points 4 years ago +36 / -0

I was in high school when they cranked up the court ordered school busing in most of urban America. This was a death blow that no one ever talks about.

Everybody of every color and stripe got the hell out of cities with court ordered school busing. The diaspora was enormous and was certainly a large contributor to the rise of burb living and the decline of US cities. We even dealt with it with our own kids, we always had to be mindful that our address was not in a forced busing school district.

It finally ended in the Dallas Independent School District in the late 1990's when DISD was declared integrated with a 92% minority student body/

Funny isn't it that nobody ever talks about 40 years of forced school busing contributing to the crash of American cities. I lived through all of it and it was hugely destructive.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 26 points 4 years ago +26 / -0

Academic Agent did an interesting summary video about a book on this subject last year. The subject of the book was a city that sounds like it had a very similar trajectory to your own.

Imagine being the White leftist academic researching that book and having to come to terms with the fact that even Black people don't really want to live in Black neighborhoods.

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– MegoThor 20 points 4 years ago +20 / -0

Come to terms with it? A leftist would ignore then bury the evidence, along with the bodies of anyone else who knew.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

Considering it was the subject of a book written by said White leftist academic it obviously wasn't "buried". Though I'm sure she had to come up with a massive scaffold of cognitive dissonance to prevent her entire worldview from collapsing.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

And then ban the book in question, so nobody else could read it (or at least buy it anywhere online), lol...

Shit, we are so close to the book burnings of the 20th Century at this point that it's not even funny anymore (if it ever was), hey..? :-S

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– deleted 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0
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– xleb2 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

I can't say where black people wanted to live, but they didn't want their kids bused all over creation either. It was despised by the public but loved by the politicos. Everybody else moved to places that didn't have it.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Interestingly, this applies in Australia too, but in the case of inner cities (for the most part), instead of just leaving them to rot, they were gentrified, and hipsters moved into them (cheap, "arty", close to university, etc.), displacing our equivalent "Blaks"... Who then moved out to the shittier outer suburbs which have yet to be gentrified, or disappeared, in large part, from the cityscape. Or became homeless...

However the real shitholes in this country, nowadays at least, are mostly the outer suburbs, but moreso the small towns where this gentrification... Doesn't happen. That's where the Burn, Loot, Murder happens these days, vis a vis 15-20 years ago, when we had the Redfern and Cronulla riots, at least in Sydney, lol...

But yeah, if you go out to say... Alice Springs, which has something like 20% full or mostly full-blood Aboriginal population (or more), and is supposedly just about the most "segregated" place in Australia in Current Year, that's where you really have to watch yourself, lol. That's like... Our equivalent of Baltimore or whatever, these days at least!

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Sounds a lot like the US. In Seattle for example a lot of the places 30 years ago no one wanted to live are now the trendiest spots because all the tech companies opened offices nearby.

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– Assassin47 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Don't worry, BLM took care of that. Everybody's fleeing the cities again.

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– realerfunction 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

they can only leave if they didn't vote for those currently in power.

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– MGTAU 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Blacks only don't wanna live with black cause of muh huwhite supremacy and racism!!!

-leftist

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– deleted 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0
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– fakthemods 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

My folks experienced busing in their youth. It shocked me how after experiencing the racial conflicts my father still fell back on the old 'Not all blacks' line. Yet his entire family had to flee their home so their children could be safe at school. The district they fled from is still the worst in the area and it continued to bleed into other areas in the following decades. To the point that by the time I had kids I moved out of town to avoid putting my kids into the school system my parents escaped to.

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– DontDoxMeBreaux 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Governments would redistrict children and bus them from school district A into school district B for the purposes of "desegregation."

It's "forced" in the sense that children were forced to go to farther away (and often much shittier) schools and probably didn't have a way to get there OTHER than being bussed, since it would be too far to walk. But no, you were not actually forced to ride a bus, you could get to school any way you wished.

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– Knife-TotingRat 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I always thought it went the other way - that black kids from the poorer neighbourhoods were being bused to white neighbourhoods/better schools, which was leading to the inner-city schools just becoming that much worse, while also turning the receiving schools to crap. Did the flow reverse at some point?

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– fakthemods 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

In some places it went both ways. If they're bring in 50 black kids while the school is at capacity then 50 White kids have to be bused somewhere else.

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– Piroko 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

An expert in geopolitics, asked me to define a failed state. I wasn't prepared to provide a good answer.

Pffft. Moron.

A failed state is a state where the focus of the state activity has diminished to merely preserving continuity of the state; vis a vi, they can do nothing but stay in power.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

So... Zumastan, Haiti and Cub(isti)a, then?

Hell, that, uhh, largely sounds like it describes the Victorian and Western Australian state governments, too, if I'm being blunt...

Which I would have tongue-in-cheek referred to as (literal) "failed states", but I had never actually seen it defined like that before, lol...

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– Isolated_Patriot 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

That's a damn good definition, actually.

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