This is a pretty great PR victory. It cost them nothing and showed the malevolence on the other side. I don't often like what conservatives do, or rather their constant inaction, but this was pretty neat.
I feel like the conservatives have done many stunts like this in the past, with that intended effect, but look at where we are today.
Gamergate did the exact same thing; Funded http://www.thefineyoungcapitalists.com/ to prove they weren't sexist and weren't trying to force women out of gaming.
Did it help one bit? No. Not a damn, not one iota. GG still got smeared as a sexist reactionary attempt to push women out of game development. The left set the narrative, and absolutely nothing we said or did changed it one teeny tiny bit. They exerted complete and total control of the public narrative from day one, and they still have it.
/u/AntoniOfVenice and anyone who thinks they they can win a 'PR victory' still has the wool pulled over their eyes. This is NOT high school debate team. The left has set the rules and the rules are whoever can do the most bullying, harassment and and intimidation WINS.
It's pure Alinsky: That which they accused us of doing, is THEIR GAMEPLAN. That which we went out of our way to avoid doing, is what we SHOULD have been doing.
Forget the old strategy. It's slow SUICIDE.
DO WHAT THEY DO, instead of DOING AS THEY TELL YOU.
Problem is, when people try to do what the left does then the left focuses on them with the same focus of the Eye of Sauron.
We're at a rather big impasse because of this now, I think. How to get through this impasse? I don't know, but it's no coincidence more and more people are talking about detaching, about the necessity of a Great Divorce, and well, we know what station this train of thought stops at don't we?
It does not matter one fucking bit, and the last seven years are PROOF of it.
If tomorrow we decided start doxxing leftists, posting pictures of their houses, blowing up their employers inboxes and phone lines with messages about how they're employing a radical terrorist...
What are they gonna DO?
Whine in the media that we're harassing them?
Guess what, they already do that anyway! They've spent every day for the last seven years telling the world we harass them. What will change if we ACTUALLY harass them? Absolutely nothing! They've been crying wolf for seven years! Nothing will be any different!
Nothing, except for the fact that now they will be dealing with ACTUAL mob harassment. Now they will ACTUALLY be getting hounded.
I can't stress this enough. THEY HAVE BEEN WRITING AS IF THIS WHAT THEIR LIFE IS LIKE FOR THE PAST SEVEN YEARS. THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN SAY ABOUT US THAT THEY DO NOT ALREADY SAY ABOUT US ANYWAY. NOTHING THEY WRITE CAN BE NEW. THEY HAVE ACCUSED US OF EVERYTHING ALREADY.
Stop shouting 'debate me!'
Stop trying to 'win the argument'
The left is not debating, they are not arguing, they are FIGHTING, by hounding us and sapping our will to go after them directly.
They already had evidence - they based their claims on literally a tiny handful of people doing it. Most of whom weren't even interested in the political angle.
The left always operates out of bad-faith arguments, positions, and tactics. Mainstream conservatives (for reasons that I don't understand) always assume that the left is operating in good faith, but that they are merely ignorant of the consequences of their policies, or are at worst, stupid people. AOC is indeed stupid, but she advocates for what she does because she's a bad person, not that she's merely ignorant. She's ignorant and stupid on top of being a malicious actor.
She most definitely is not. You don't go from waitress to Congresswoman without knowing what you are doing.
When she says something braindead stupid, like, 'why aren't we growing yucca in new york?' it's not because she doesn't understand that you can't just grow plants wherever the hell you like, it's because she knows it makes her sound like a true believer. It's a virtue signal, proof of piety, proof of her hatred of all things white America.
When she asks someone a retarded question, it's not because she doesn't understand the subject at all. It's because that question is a good soundbite for the radicals. The answer the question recieves is absolutely irrelevant - it doesn't matter that a dozen youtube videos will go up tiled '<name> utterly DESTROYS AOC'. All that matters is that the radicals will hear her ask that question.
When she cries at the sight of a car park, it's not because she thinks it's going fool anyone on the right, or even the center. It is, you guessed it, another signal to the radicals.
When she lies and claims she was in fear for her life on Jan 6th, despite not even fucking being there, she's appealing purely to... I'm sure you can finish the sentence yourself a this point.
AOC is not stupid. She's an anti-white racist who sees herself as a future Presidente of a socialist republic. She could even, one day, succeed.
Who gives a shit? Nobody on the left does. AOC will probably say something like, "I am not going to accept money from people who attempted to murder me" and the left will cheer. The battle lines will stay exactly the same. Going for PR victories at this stage is pretty pointless because our enemy controls almost every means of disseminating information to the masses. We never get to control the narrative that is delivered to the public.
This is just a way for conservatives to pat themselves on the back and feel like they did something. I guess it is a morale booster for conservatives? I'd rather boost morale by getting actual Ws though, and by that I mean legal and political victories.
“My abuela is okay. But instead of only caring for mine & letting others suffer, I’m calling attention to the systemic injustices you seem totally fine w/ in having a US colony,” she wrote.
"Oh, you were going to help the family member I used as a prop for political gain? NOT GOOD ENOUGH! You must feed more money into The System to fix these abstract problems! No, you won't get to see concrete results from your actions!"
This is a pretty great PR victory. It cost them nothing and showed the malevolence on the other side. I don't often like what conservatives do, or rather their constant inaction, but this was pretty neat.
Gamergate did the exact same thing; Funded http://www.thefineyoungcapitalists.com/ to prove they weren't sexist and weren't trying to force women out of gaming.
Did it help one bit? No. Not a damn, not one iota. GG still got smeared as a sexist reactionary attempt to push women out of game development. The left set the narrative, and absolutely nothing we said or did changed it one teeny tiny bit. They exerted complete and total control of the public narrative from day one, and they still have it.
/u/AntoniOfVenice and anyone who thinks they they can win a 'PR victory' still has the wool pulled over their eyes. This is NOT high school debate team. The left has set the rules and the rules are whoever can do the most bullying, harassment and and intimidation WINS. It's pure Alinsky: That which they accused us of doing, is THEIR GAMEPLAN. That which we went out of our way to avoid doing, is what we SHOULD have been doing.
Forget the old strategy. It's slow SUICIDE.
DO WHAT THEY DO, instead of DOING AS THEY TELL YOU.
That's about where I am in my thinking.
Problem is, when people try to do what the left does then the left focuses on them with the same focus of the Eye of Sauron.
We're at a rather big impasse because of this now, I think. How to get through this impasse? I don't know, but it's no coincidence more and more people are talking about detaching, about the necessity of a Great Divorce, and well, we know what station this train of thought stops at don't we?
It only works because the average normie is not paying attention, or is on their side. The only thing that will help is knowledge and unity.
Here's the big dirty secret: It doesn't.
It does not matter one fucking bit, and the last seven years are PROOF of it.
If tomorrow we decided start doxxing leftists, posting pictures of their houses, blowing up their employers inboxes and phone lines with messages about how they're employing a radical terrorist...
What are they gonna DO?
Whine in the media that we're harassing them?
Guess what, they already do that anyway! They've spent every day for the last seven years telling the world we harass them. What will change if we ACTUALLY harass them? Absolutely nothing! They've been crying wolf for seven years! Nothing will be any different!
Nothing, except for the fact that now they will be dealing with ACTUAL mob harassment. Now they will ACTUALLY be getting hounded.
I can't stress this enough. THEY HAVE BEEN WRITING AS IF THIS WHAT THEIR LIFE IS LIKE FOR THE PAST SEVEN YEARS. THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN SAY ABOUT US THAT THEY DO NOT ALREADY SAY ABOUT US ANYWAY. NOTHING THEY WRITE CAN BE NEW. THEY HAVE ACCUSED US OF EVERYTHING ALREADY.
Stop shouting 'debate me!' Stop trying to 'win the argument'
The left is not debating, they are not arguing, they are FIGHTING, by hounding us and sapping our will to go after them directly.
We need to be what they pretend we are.
This. We have to act like unhinged leftists because actual unhinged leftists are terrified of their own shadows.
If anything comes back to them in any force they'll race into hiding because they don't know how to handle it.
They already had evidence - they based their claims on literally a tiny handful of people doing it. Most of whom weren't even interested in the political angle.
Evidence only matters if you care about evidence.
Stop caring about optics.
The media is going to lie regardless.
boy you dumb
Ok, have fun losing a culture war and winding up in a gulag or mass grave, 'cause that's where things are heading.
The left always operates out of bad-faith arguments, positions, and tactics. Mainstream conservatives (for reasons that I don't understand) always assume that the left is operating in good faith, but that they are merely ignorant of the consequences of their policies, or are at worst, stupid people. AOC is indeed stupid, but she advocates for what she does because she's a bad person, not that she's merely ignorant. She's ignorant and stupid on top of being a malicious actor.
She most definitely is not. You don't go from waitress to Congresswoman without knowing what you are doing.
When she says something braindead stupid, like, 'why aren't we growing yucca in new york?' it's not because she doesn't understand that you can't just grow plants wherever the hell you like, it's because she knows it makes her sound like a true believer. It's a virtue signal, proof of piety, proof of her hatred of all things white America.
When she asks someone a retarded question, it's not because she doesn't understand the subject at all. It's because that question is a good soundbite for the radicals. The answer the question recieves is absolutely irrelevant - it doesn't matter that a dozen youtube videos will go up tiled '<name> utterly DESTROYS AOC'. All that matters is that the radicals will hear her ask that question.
When she cries at the sight of a car park, it's not because she thinks it's going fool anyone on the right, or even the center. It is, you guessed it, another signal to the radicals.
When she lies and claims she was in fear for her life on Jan 6th, despite not even fucking being there, she's appealing purely to... I'm sure you can finish the sentence yourself a this point.
AOC is not stupid. She's an anti-white racist who sees herself as a future Presidente of a socialist republic. She could even, one day, succeed.
Yep. Start pushing back, and hold them to their own standards.
Cancel them.
Make it so they're unable to get jobs ever again.
Then we fix the system, and go back to normal.
PR victories mean nothing.
Who gives a shit? Nobody on the left does. AOC will probably say something like, "I am not going to accept money from people who attempted to murder me" and the left will cheer. The battle lines will stay exactly the same. Going for PR victories at this stage is pretty pointless because our enemy controls almost every means of disseminating information to the masses. We never get to control the narrative that is delivered to the public.
This is just a way for conservatives to pat themselves on the back and feel like they did something. I guess it is a morale booster for conservatives? I'd rather boost morale by getting actual Ws though, and by that I mean legal and political victories.
Remember its better to die with dignity than to live in a functional society.
You clearly don't understand what's going on here
Her tweet lying about being a 1st gen American is still up w/ no fact check: https://archive.is/vQnpA
It is impossible for me to hear 'fact-check' without rolling my eyes, as much as 'antifa' and 'Democratic Kampuchea'.
Fact-checker is about as Orwellian as it gets at this point. Like, it's so on point it's weird.
All of Obama's gun control rhetoric has made me hate the term "common sense" a bit. The Democrats are certainly masters of doublespeak.
Democrats don’t want to take care of their own families - they want to bitch and moan about how taxpayers should.
While she drives a brand new Tesla
Dems need victims. Without victims their policies are worthless. As with hate crimes they are happy to create their own supply.
Exactly.
"Oh, you were going to help the family member I used as a prop for political gain? NOT GOOD ENOUGH! You must feed more money into The System to fix these abstract problems! No, you won't get to see concrete results from your actions!"
Ben "our greatest ally" Shapiro- lets fundraise for a commie to own the libs, goy..I mean guys!
Wow. What a piece of shit. LOL.