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– Auntie_Mildred 41 points 5 years ago +41 / -0

Nah, because he didn't hide his other radical influences. Openly mentored and praised Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright (the former of which is just mainstream nowadays),

The whole Obama story (and to a lesser extent Sotomayor) are just kind of eerie when you think about them.

Child raised by a single mother in the poor side of town gets into Harvard and becomes a senator at a young age. Serves one term as a senator and then is rocketed up to presidency.

You can't see any grades or records or transcripts, though. You just have to trust he earned his way through the whole way.

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– Adamrises 29 points 5 years ago +29 / -0

Its kinda like Pizzagate. Even if we accept "well this theory isn't true" there is so much fucked up stuff, so many coincidences, and so much suspicious shit that doesn't pass a sniff test that it is nearly impossible that something isn't fucked up in there.

Just because a conclusion is false, doesn't invalidate all the evidence that pointed to it. So even if Obama was born in America, there are clearly elements that would be suspicious even on their own let alone as a group.

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– Fmantothemaxagain 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

Pizzagate was the first time I got to see a conspiracy theory get destroyed by outlandish claims in real time. All the weird potential codewords and costs mentioned in the emails and stuff certainly pointed to something, but it spiraled into the devil worship and satanism stuff so fast, then the guy shot up the one pizzeria so now those are the only parts anyone talks about.

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– CptLightning 24 points 5 years ago +24 / -0

The one guy who just happened to have an imdb page who specifically only shot computers at a pizzeria. Really gets the noggin joggin

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– throwawayaccount2037 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

He didn't just shoot computers -- he fired a shot at a computer that CONVENIENTLY hit Alefantis' hard drive inside the computer, rendering investigators unable to retrieve the data from that computer.

All the cameras that could have captured the incident on tape were also conveniently down for repair for that particular day and that day only.

It's like he was a hired hard drive hitman... with an IMDB page.

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– Adamrises 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Its almost a perfect example to show how "conspiracy theories" are made and meme'd into being shorthand for "lies by the insane or delusional madmen."

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

and so much suspicious shit

Then focus on the suspicious shit and not on a pizza parlor with no basement!

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– Adamrises 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

When you have tens of thousands of autists weaponizing that shit, you will have plenty of ones whose speculation goes awry, come to weird conclusions, and become certain of things entirely based on their hunches. That's the trouble with conspiracies, you are building narratives from fragmented, coded ideas and then welding it together as best you can. Sometimes it uncovers reality (McCarthy) or sometimes it becomes something beyond reality (later McCarthyism).

That's not even getting into the idea that the entire pizza parlor was a false flag, which even if the idea itself wasn't, the shooting almost certainly was.

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– throwawayaccount2037 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

They did. That's exactly what /r/pizzagate was doing.

The media was the one blasting the pizza parlor nonsense about the basement because it was a convenient strawman to attack because Comet Ping Pong had no basement. That wasn't even the main investigative point of the /r/pizzagate sub.

In fact, the day the sub was shutdown they were crowd-sourcing cross-reference material between the 24,000 names that the hackers uncovered from the pedo network spread across Twitter with the names in the Wikileaks e-mails from John Podesta's account.

There were even a few crossover hits, like the guy with the distillery in Hawaii who was selling "cheese" and other odd items on eBay for $10,000.

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– Brennus 21 points 5 years ago +21 / -0

And a significant chunk of that term as senator was spent campaigning for the presidency

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– TechParadox 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Serves one term as a senator and then is rocketed up to presidency.

If Jack Ryan hadn't tried to get Seven of Nine to go out and do kinky shit, he may not have even gotten that senate seat. It's funny (in that "coincidental, not ha-ha" way) that Jack's sexual proclivities got dragged out of the woodwork of his sealed divorce proceedings right at the same time he was gunning for that senate seat against the liberal Lord and Savior...

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– M1919A2 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

And my first reaction was, "wait what does a Tom Clancy character..."

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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Serves one term as a senator and then is rocketed up to presidency.

1/3 of a term.

He was elected in 2004, took office in 2005. He started campaigning for POTUS in 2007.

You can't see any grades or records or transcripts, though. You just have to trust he earned his way through the whole way.

The fact that he was successful at everything he tried strongly suggests that he earned his way through the whole way. Whether by charisma, or intelligence, or whatever.

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– CatoTheElder 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

The fact that he was successful at everything he tried strongly suggests that he earned his way through the whole way. Whether by charisma, or intelligence, or whatever.

No, that just means just the opposite. Someone who earned their success always has failures. Someone with no failures means that someone else with lots of power was removing obstacles from his path.

Compare Obama to Elon Musk, or Donald Trump. Both have had plenty of failures. Musk blows up a new rocket every other week, and Trump had multiple million dollar ventures go under.

Where were Obama's failed campaigns? Where were Obama's failed companies?
Where were Obama's spectacular explosions? He never earned shit.

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– Auntie_Mildred 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

I thought Antonio was being sarcastic. Maybe just too much good faith for being on the internet

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Someone who earned their success always has failures. Someone with no failures means that someone else with lots of power was removing obstacles from his path.

Or it could just mean that he was extraordinarily lucky. Imagine the string of good luck that he had: historically bad and scandal-ridden opponents, charisma, his race.

Compare Obama to Elon Musk, or Donald Trump. Both have had plenty of failures. Musk blows up a new rocket every other week, and Trump had multiple million dollar ventures go under.

Trump, in my opinion, is not a terribly successful person, except in politics. If he had stuck all the money that he inherited into an index fund, he'd have more money now than he earned with his business dealings.

Where were Obama's failed campaigns? Where were Obama's failed companies?

Not failing enough is not an argument against someone. Let's say for a moment that someone truly extraordinary showed up, and I'm not saying Obama was that guy. And he managed to succeed at everything, because of his extreme talents. By your standard, you would be mistrustful of him, because he did not fail enough.

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– CatoTheElder 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

Let's say for a moment that someone truly extraordinary showed up, and I'm not saying Obama was that guy. And he managed to succeed at everything, because of his extreme talents. By your standard, you would be mistrustful of him, because he did not fail enough.

Correct.

The Law of Large Numbers is inviolable. There is no such thing as luck.

It is only your magical thinking that allows you to believe that Obama was legitimate in any way. And it truly is magical, because Chicago is the most corrupt city in America. It is legendary for its corruption.

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