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Scientists Warn Pfizer, Moderna Vaccines May Cause Blood Clots, Too (childrenshealthdefense.org)
posted 5 years ago by onetruephilosoraptor 5 years ago by onetruephilosoraptor +56 / -0
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– Hullohoomans 19 points 5 years ago +19 / -0

I have a good friend who's at Mayo clinic right now because of the Pfizer vaccine. It caused about 500 micro strokes, and he's now a vegetable.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

That is terrible.

Fuck Operation Warpspeed

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Really, because of one case?

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

I voted for Trump twice and I still think Operation Warpspeed is the worst thing he ever did.

This is not because of one case. It is because the vaccines would have been delayed for years without Operation Warpspeed. They wouldn't be able to push dangerous experimental vaccines this early on us or push vaccine passports.

Trump got baited. They likely told him that this would be necessary for him to win the election and open up the economy. Instead he approved this shit, they stole the election and now they get to tyrannize the population with these shit vaccines.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

This is not because of one case. It is because the vaccines would have been delayed for years without Operation Warpspeed. They wouldn't be able to push dangerous experimental vaccines this early on us or push vaccine passports.

What about the good that vaccines do for the elderly population? You can't just ignore that.

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– onetruephilosoraptor [S] 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

99.97 percent of people survive the Chinavirus.

Those who die have Vitamin D deficiency and/or comorbidities.

To push experimental vaccines on everyone for these people is retarded.

These people with risk factors should lockdown and take Vitamin D supplements.

There is nothing to ignore.

Fuck these experimental vaccines entirely.

Please keep carrying water for big pharma who want to sell you vaccines as a service.

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– ghostfox1_ 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Damn dude. I'm sorry. I know it doesn't help, but you've got us to vent to at least

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– Gizortnik 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

I'm confused, how does the Pfizer vaccine cause microstrokes?

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– Hullohoomans 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

The spike protein causes blood clotting and disrupts epithelial membranes (blood vessels, blood brain barrier). The clots block small capillaries while the leakiness allows stuff to go where it doesn't belong. Read any of the articles linked in this thread.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Thanks

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– Ahaus667 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Blood clots, micro stroke are usually not full on brain bleeds, but temporary deprivations of oxygen to the brain, so small clots that temporarily block flow will cause TIA or “mini strokes”

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– Gizortnik 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Mmmm. That makes a lot more sense.

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– Grumman 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

Although researchers found a significantly higher incidence of blood clots in people who were infected with COVID, the incidence of blood clots following vaccines was still much higher than the background incidence of 0.41, a strong signal that the vaccines pose this specific risk.

“These findings are consistent with what we know about how vaccine-induced spike proteins can on their own cause cell signaling through interactions with the ACE-2 receptors,” said Lyn Redwood, RN, MSN, president emerita of Children’s Health Defense. “When this happens, it can result in inflammation and a host of other potentially pathological events in the epithelial lining of the blood vessels which can then trigger pro-inflammatory cytokines capable of activating coagulation systems and down-regulating anticoagulant pathways resulting in clot formation.”

Which is what I thought might be the case. There are some symptoms of COVID-19 like pneumonia that can only be caused by the live virus: if the virus is not destroying lung cells through its reproductive process, the destroyed cells will not cause your lungs to fill up with fluid. But if a certain COVID-19 protein causes harm to your body either directly or by triggering a harmful immune response then you can't use that protein to train your immune system without producing that same symptom.

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– current_horror 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

I believe that part of the study has been confirmed as garbage; they are comparing vaccine blood clot rates to confirmed covid cases, which are estimated to be as few as 10% of actual cases. This means a 90% reduction in blood clot rates for the virus. This in turn means that the vaccines are literally more dangerous than the virus.

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– Gizortnik 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

COVID DEATH BATTLE:

Who has the higher kill rate:

The Vaccine - - - The Lockdown

GO!

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– AntonioOfVenice 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

No contest. The Lockdown.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I suppose it depends on which ones we do longer.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

It is not clear if the lockdown saved more lives than it ended. It probably did. But for these vaccines, even if the worst things they say about them, they definitely save more lives than they take - assuming that everyone who has taken them doesn't drop dead 1 year afterwards.

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– Gizortnik 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

It is not clear if the lockdown saved more lives than it ended. It probably did.

Hmmmmmm. I think the lockdowns probably killed more people than they saved.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Depends on what you posit as an alternative. If it's 'doing nothing', then they definitely saved more lives than they took. If the alternative is 'protecting vulnerable groups and leaving the rest alone', then probably yes.

Note that I am not asserting that the politicians did anything to save lives. I know they couldn't give a damn about that.

Anyway, if the lockdown took more lives than it saved, then the vaccines are definitely the better of the two - since even if all cases of death can be attributed to them, they kill a fraction of the number they save.

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– Gizortnik 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

This is just getting stupid.

Does anyone even know what's causing blood clots at this point? If people who are getting vaccinated are in risk groups because their obese, does that have something to do with it more than the vaccine?

This is why I don't want to get vaccinated, nobody knows what the fuck is going on.

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– Ahaus667 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

The corona vaccines before now had blood clots as a notable risk, according to a 2012 study it was noticed in animal testing too. The initial argument was that mRNA vaccines were a new type so the blood clots would not be a factor. I believe this is why they pulled the traditional vaccines too, their “immunity” doesn’t extend to previous knowledge so this would leave them all legally liable.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

duplicate post

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– Ahaus667 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

The corona vaccines before now had blood clots as a notable risk, according to a 2012 study it was noticed in animal testing too. The initial argument was that mRNA vaccines were a new type so the blood clots would not be a factor. I believe this is why they pulled the traditional vaccines too, their “immunity” doesn’t extend to previous knowledge so this would leave them all legally liable.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

, their “immunity” doesn’t extend to previous knowledge so this would leave them all legally liable.

This assumes any judge would convict.

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