Why the fuck are the glowies now going after incels?
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The people most likely to fight, legit or terroristicly, are those with nothing to lose. They are most easily goaded into action.
What person could have more of "nothing to lose" than some poor sap who has convinced himself that people wanting to touch his pee pee is the be-all end-all of existence?
Don't sell them short. It's also people who have realized that there is nothing they can do, short of paying money, to find someone who is willing tontouch their pee pee. And that's a very sobering lesson to learn. And a lesson that doesn't improve ones love for society.
I am not sure why 'society' would be to blame for that. It sounds very much like the argument that 'society' is to blame for criminals. Maybe people need to improve themselves.
I know that in this Age of Entitlement, people think that they're entitled to someone finding them attractive, but they're really not. This applies to proper incels, as well as to Transcels and Fatcels.
In fact, I would very much like it if people - men and women alike - raised their standards as to force improvements, as opposed to the race to the bottom we have now.
So. Women getting pregged up by a random hawt looser on the street and the rest of us footing the bill isn't societys fault? Women divorce-raping their spouses with the full force of the state behind them isn't societys fault? There's about as many women as there are men out there but for some completely unfathomable reason there's a metric fuckton more sex (and procreation) to be had on the female side. Must be because all those incels are losers that should improve themselves, because the women are, obviously, prices to be had and not pump and dumps for drunk Chads.
Funny that you speak of entitlement. What about all the money funneled into women in general and single mothers in particular? All of them think they deserve this money. They are stunning and brave after all, because having children and refusing the father acces to them is an act of defiance right now. Let's talk about entitlement: Where the fuck does the thought come from that women can unilaterally decide to have children and the rest of society has to foot the bill for them. But that's not an entitlement you want to talk about, no? It's this fucking incels that are the problem. I tell you what. Cancel all entitlements specific to women (and especially single mothers) and you won't see a significant number of incels anymore.
Because believe it or not: Most marriages or civil units for the majority of history were a product of convinience and need, and not a product of love.
Marrying for love is like becoming a CEO: Only a very small fraction gets to experience it.
I am rather sure incels can't lower their standards anymore. But feel free to convince me otherwise. As for women: If you don't know it, I recommend https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen. Is this the norm? I don't know: But calling these bitches out would be considered mysogony in large circles of normal society.
It's only completely unfathomable if you purposely keep yourself completely ignorant of biology.
Otherwise, it's very easy to explain. I'm sure it's not going to come as as surprise to you that men are more interested in casual sex than women. This is for biological reasons, not because of eeeeevil society.
Some women are, while others aren't.
What of it?
I actually agree, though for reasons of social stability, and not because incels are not getting less than they deserve (what they deserve being nothing at all).
I am not sure. Perhaps some of them would rather remain incels, rather than bang a fat chick. I actually find that to be admirable, as bad as the rest of their behavior is. That sort of behavior should not be enabled.
Some of the women there are odious shrews, while others were screwed over by some guy who got them pregnant and then left them. The sub does not seem to distinguish between the two. The blue-haired, fat whales with 19 facial piercings, by all means call them bitches.
Otherwise, it's very easy to explain. I'm sure it's not going to come as as surprise to you that men are more interested in casual sex than women. This is for biological reasons, not because of eeeeevil society.
Be surprised or be not. I am not ignorant of biology. Not even close to. I am aware that I, being just shy of the top 80% will not reproduce. And that's OK. What is not OK is that I have to pay for the 20% Honestly, fuck them, and fuck the bitches that think that they have any worth because someone pumped their lad into them.
I honestly have to ask: Do you have any idea what it is like to be an ugly man. Can you imagine having no worth to anyone? Because you honestly don't sound like it.
If you have children of your own I have two thins to say to you: First of all: Make sure that they are your children. Second: Be glad. Most men in the western world will not be as lucky.
At least u/TheImpossible1 is aware that he won the genetical lottery.
What? How many prices are there. Along all of womanhood? 3% 10% 50%?
Why does it happen? I'm still waiting to get paid for my poor choices.
Okay. So we are on the same page after all. Incels don't deserve anything and women don't deserve anything either. Because no one deserves anything at all. Let's try it. I'm willing to bet thought that one side won't want to try it, because they are on the winning side of the game right now and stripping them of their entitlement will make a lot of them way more unhappy than they are right now. Also: The side that loses in that deal isn't the incels.
But tell me: If you care about society why would you accept single mothers that also aren't widows at all? Do you think all men that had a wife throughout all of history thought that they got the jackpot after all? I'll repeat: Being married to someone to love is like food in africa. Most people won't get it.
And how man of them get called out and ridiculed like incels are routinely? Thought so. Stop White-Knighting.
Because I'm not controlled by biology?
I am aware. Though i dare to be not completely convinced.
Reality is that most of mankind is controlled by biology, wven if they like to think they are not
That was not your complaint, as I understood it. You wondered why it is that women get easier access to casual sex than men. That is easily explained. It's also incorrect to make predicitons about the future based on your present state, the top 80% not being stable, let alone easily determined. If you won the lottery tomorrow, e.g.
No two people have the same experiences. If you look at the most successful people in the world, they generally are not lookers. While I'd say that Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates have no worth to anyone, unfortunately, others disagree. I think you vastly overestimate the effect of being ugly or beautiful, at least for men. Maybe your perspective has been skewed by too much online dating. Because from what I have seen, ugly men (even when not crazily successful) do fine. Most men are so abominable that it's easy to get into the top 20% without even trying.
I don't mean to be condescending, but I will point you to biology again. Who were the men who managed to reproduce a lot in the past? Not those who were best-looking, but those who (1) had social status, either in the form of power or resources and (2) had physical strength. Today, these norms will be less applicable, but they are still applicable all the same, because 250,000 years of evolution is not erased overnight.
All I'll say that you shouldn't base your view of the world on phony 'studies' that can't be replicated, and in this case are actively contradicted by better studies.
Maybe 5%. And among men? Probably less. 3% or so.
Same for me. Then you should unite with others who have made choices, create a political lobby, and make sure you are rewarded for those poor choices.
No one deserves anything. I despise the Age of Entitlement. If you're a cripple and you can't make life work for you, then we will help you out, but if you are the author of your own misfortune, then it's on you.
I think single motherhood is very damaging to society. I do not think it should be accepted. I do think it's the inevitable outcome of a contraception society, quite ironically. Ideally, but I know it's utopian thinking, I'd like to see birth control banned and sexual mores return to the way they were in the 1950s.
I am not sure. This certainly was true for the upper classes, who got married as a sort of business or dynastic arrangement, but for many of the lower classes - people did get married for love. And even if you don't marry your love, you may grow to love your marital partner.
The hysteria around 'incels' is ridiculous. They're simultaneously supposed to be pathetic (which I think is true), and also a great threat and menace. One of these can be true, but not both. As for the blue-haired with 19 facial piercings, they're even more odious than the incels. They should be ridiculed, even if they're not.
"We live in a society" is a leftist meme to disregard correct talking points, but it is correct. It's not just ONE thing that's caused an increased rise of incels, you should know that.
-- The slow acceptance of degeneracy/hedonism. "Oh, just let them do what they want, they're not harming anyone."
-- The demonization of male masculinity in favor of feminity and/or the blurring of the roles between the sexes.
-- The continue societal pressure to push for more favoritism towards women and ethnic minorities to compensate for something that happened half a century ago or more.
-- The huge risk of a marriage financially ruining you if there's a divorce and the court systems almost always favoring the mother.
-- The normalization of 'single motherhood' like as it is some sort of virtue and the trivialization of how essential the role of a father is towards raising well adjusted children.
-- The normalization of divorce instead of the societal pressure on couples to stay together and work on the issues with their relationships.
-- The secularization of our society - lack of spirituality, whether it's towards a god or multiple gods gives people less reason to live out a virtuous life.
-- The monetization of sex/social interaction - stuff like OnlyFans is a perfect description of it - as a video I watched by Glink put it. You could even say unfettered capitalism is actually the cause because of how "valuable" of a "good" (as in commodity, not a good thing of course) OnlyFans is. That's a philosophical discussion we can have later but capitalism itself is a double edged sword that makes this commodification of sex even easier.
I could go on and on, but it's a combination of leftist post-modernist dogma + gynocentrism + technology + a bunch of other things. I was like you - I refused to believe this stuff at the start of GG as well - I thought most of it is just due to individuals just being nutjobs and this being unfortunate events, but considering there has been fewer babies, fewer marriages, more divorces, and less "happiness" among millennials and younger generation folks, I've come to realize there is no easy one thing you can fix to stop this.
And what's worse? Both men AND women are saying they feel worse off, even before COVID, so what the fuck is going on here?
We can improve ourselves, yes, but it is clear there are outside forces that are trying to interfere, heck, destroy that ability. Some of us have "awakened" to it but there's too few of us and too many of them.
To be fair, the convincing is done mostly by society and media.
Incels have no family. A lot are likely depressed, and feel the world has given them nothing and only taken away. Thus they decide they will take back.
It's difficult to disagree. Women took their hobbies, their interests, their future and their freedom and gave them nothing but pure disdain and genocidal rhetoric targeting them.
Trouble is, violent revolutions will only strengthen the feminist case for mass genocide.
I bet you the borm for incels is a domineering mother.
Islamic fundamentalists nodding vigorously in the corner.
How do I phrase this without sounding like a weirdo myself?
Evolutionarily, it literally is. This is why men go crazy when they don't have sex, and women go crazy when they don't have children. Since men are not the ones who give birth to children (REEEE TWANSPHOBIA), they just need to have sex for their biology to be comforted, while women need to actually give birth.
The problem with the incel lot is not necessarily that they are place too much importance on sex. Though I agree with you on that, I think that is just their biology. It is that they think being a self-pitying, pathetic loser is in any way productive. Or maybe they realize that they isn't productive, but they act like a woman - in rather than trying to solve their problem, they just want to whine about it without solving it.
Because a group of combat aged males with no families is the most dangerous thing in the world.
They're losing the game, and winners don't flip the table.
As soon as they start realizing it's all rigged, they lose interest in what cards they have.
Anti abortion extremist? Unless they are killing people how is doing anything to prevent the killing of the unborn considered extreme?
any opposition to globohomo is "extremism"
Marginalized group on the fringe of society which is already largely unstable, they're likely to be one of the early groups to crack and lose their shit violently. It's always people on the edge that go first before the more well adjusted population decides that they've had enough of this shit and it's time to do something. They're just trying to nip threats in the bud so that they can maintain their power rather than have a populace that's willing to rise up against their tyranny.
Are you just pretending to not know?
I told everyone this would happen.
Harris directs FBI to go after "incels" > FF occurs, incels blamed. Possibly even on IWD. > "We need to ban misogyny and men owning guns" > both pass on party lines > men are now officially second class citizens.
If there are any incels reading this (I doubt it) - Do not fall for women's plan or you'll fuck everyone over. If you condemn violence before it happens, you have proof it couldn't have been you.
Yeah, you predicted 100 of the last 2 things to happen.
Please, condemning violence just makes you look guilty.
It's not hard to predict that a woman will try to create a pariah out of the group that hates them most.
So you admit that incels hate women.
And that therefore, hatred for women, a.k.a. misogyny, exists.
Not really, because they claim that hate is undeserved. Undeserved hate for them doesn't exist - they know exactly why they aren't liked but they refuse to admit it.
Nice attempt at moving the goalposts. 'Misogyny' does not imply that it is 'undeserved', you just added it to save yourself. Regardless, I'm pretty sure that hating more than half the human population is the definition of undeserved.
Also, you're glowing.
Well, you can't really complain about deserved hate. It's kind of implied that it's undeserved by the way they act about it.
Why don't you tell them that? All 16m members of TwoX, all the hundreds of thousands who will post and like kill all men tweets on Monday?
I'm glowing? I don't want any violence. I'm not stupid enough to think it will help - they will use it as an excuse to crack down on all their opponents.
You can complain about anything. For example, you complain about 'misandry', which your mirror images on GC found perfectly deserved because of the sky-high rates of murder and rape committed by men compared to women.
We do. We just don't turn into their mirror images. "Her der, hating men is bad but hating women is good".
Yes, by virtue of membership in a default sub, you automatically start hating men.
You absolutely are, regardless of violence. This sort of trash is glowposting. You're even crazier than usual today, labeling women as "the literal worst of humanity".
You are exactly what you purport to hate. You and feminists deserve each other, and you are barely distinguishable. Except that I can freely criticize you without you accusing me of 'internalized misandry'.
Incels are an easy and unsympathetic target, and once they start beating on them, they just call anyone they want to beat on an "incel" and they can beat on any man.
Bingo.
Oh hai 1984!