I am not sure why 'society' would be to blame for that. It sounds very much like the argument that 'society' is to blame for criminals. Maybe people need to improve themselves.

So. Women getting pregged up by a random hawt looser on the street and the rest of us footing the bill isn't societys fault? Women divorce-raping their spouses with the full force of the state behind them isn't societys fault? There's about as many women as there are men out there but for some completely unfathomable reason there's a metric fuckton more sex (and procreation) to be had on the female side. Must be because all those incels are losers that should improve themselves, because the women are, obviously, prices to be had and not pump and dumps for drunk Chads.

I know that in this Age of Entitlement, people think that they're entitled to someone finding them attractive, but they're really not. This applies to proper incels, as well as to Transcels and Fatcels.

Funny that you speak of entitlement. What about all the money funneled into women in general and single mothers in particular? All of them think they deserve this money. They are stunning and brave after all, because having children and refusing the father acces to them is an act of defiance right now. Let's talk about entitlement: Where the fuck does the thought come from that women can unilaterally decide to have children and the rest of society has to foot the bill for them. But that's not an entitlement you want to talk about, no? It's this fucking incels that are the problem. I tell you what. Cancel all entitlements specific to women (and especially single mothers) and you won't see a significant number of incels anymore.

Because believe it or not: Most marriages or civil units for the majority of history were a product of convinience and need, and not a product of love.

Marrying for love is like becoming a CEO: Only a very small fraction gets to experience it.

In fact, I would very much like it if people - men and women alike - raised their standards as to force improvements, as opposed to the race to the bottom we have now.

I am rather sure incels can't lower their standards anymore. But feel free to convince me otherwise. As for women: If you don't know it, I recommend https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen. Is this the norm? I don't know: But calling these bitches out would be considered mysogony in large circles of normal society.

"We live in a society" is a leftist meme to disregard correct talking points, but it is correct. It's not just ONE thing that's caused an increased rise of incels, you should know that.

-- The slow acceptance of degeneracy/hedonism. "Oh, just let them do what they want, they're not harming anyone."

-- The demonization of male masculinity in favor of feminity and/or the blurring of the roles between the sexes.

-- The continue societal pressure to push for more favoritism towards women and ethnic minorities to compensate for something that happened half a century ago or more.

-- The huge risk of a marriage financially ruining you if there's a divorce and the court systems almost always favoring the mother.

-- The normalization of 'single motherhood' like as it is some sort of virtue and the trivialization of how essential the role of a father is towards raising well adjusted children.

-- The normalization of divorce instead of the societal pressure on couples to stay together and work on the issues with their relationships.

-- The secularization of our society - lack of spirituality, whether it's towards a god or multiple gods gives people less reason to live out a virtuous life.

-- The monetization of sex/social interaction - stuff like OnlyFans is a perfect description of it - as a video I watched by Glink put it. You could even say unfettered capitalism is actually the cause because of how "valuable" of a "good" (as in commodity, not a good thing of course) OnlyFans is. That's a philosophical discussion we can have later but capitalism itself is a double edged sword that makes this commodification of sex even easier.

I could go on and on, but it's a combination of leftist post-modernist dogma + gynocentrism + technology + a bunch of other things. I was like you - I refused to believe this stuff at the start of GG as well - I thought most of it is just due to individuals just being nutjobs and this being unfortunate events, but considering there has been fewer babies, fewer marriages, more divorces, and less "happiness" among millennials and younger generation folks, I've come to realize there is no easy one thing you can fix to stop this.

And what's worse? Both men AND women are saying they feel worse off, even before COVID, so what the fuck is going on here?

We can improve ourselves, yes, but it is clear there are outside forces that are trying to interfere, heck, destroy that ability. Some of us have "awakened" to it but there's too few of us and too many of them.