Why the fuck are the glowies now going after incels?
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The people most likely to fight, legit or terroristicly, are those with nothing to lose. They are most easily goaded into action.
What person could have more of "nothing to lose" than some poor sap who has convinced himself that people wanting to touch his pee pee is the be-all end-all of existence?
Don't sell them short. It's also people who have realized that there is nothing they can do, short of paying money, to find someone who is willing tontouch their pee pee. And that's a very sobering lesson to learn. And a lesson that doesn't improve ones love for society.
I am not sure why 'society' would be to blame for that. It sounds very much like the argument that 'society' is to blame for criminals. Maybe people need to improve themselves.
I know that in this Age of Entitlement, people think that they're entitled to someone finding them attractive, but they're really not. This applies to proper incels, as well as to Transcels and Fatcels.
In fact, I would very much like it if people - men and women alike - raised their standards as to force improvements, as opposed to the race to the bottom we have now.
So. Women getting pregged up by a random hawt looser on the street and the rest of us footing the bill isn't societys fault? Women divorce-raping their spouses with the full force of the state behind them isn't societys fault? There's about as many women as there are men out there but for some completely unfathomable reason there's a metric fuckton more sex (and procreation) to be had on the female side. Must be because all those incels are losers that should improve themselves, because the women are, obviously, prices to be had and not pump and dumps for drunk Chads.
Funny that you speak of entitlement. What about all the money funneled into women in general and single mothers in particular? All of them think they deserve this money. They are stunning and brave after all, because having children and refusing the father acces to them is an act of defiance right now. Let's talk about entitlement: Where the fuck does the thought come from that women can unilaterally decide to have children and the rest of society has to foot the bill for them. But that's not an entitlement you want to talk about, no? It's this fucking incels that are the problem. I tell you what. Cancel all entitlements specific to women (and especially single mothers) and you won't see a significant number of incels anymore.
Because believe it or not: Most marriages or civil units for the majority of history were a product of convinience and need, and not a product of love.
Marrying for love is like becoming a CEO: Only a very small fraction gets to experience it.
I am rather sure incels can't lower their standards anymore. But feel free to convince me otherwise. As for women: If you don't know it, I recommend https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen. Is this the norm? I don't know: But calling these bitches out would be considered mysogony in large circles of normal society.
It's only completely unfathomable if you purposely keep yourself completely ignorant of biology.
Otherwise, it's very easy to explain. I'm sure it's not going to come as as surprise to you that men are more interested in casual sex than women. This is for biological reasons, not because of eeeeevil society.
Some women are, while others aren't.
What of it?
I actually agree, though for reasons of social stability, and not because incels are not getting less than they deserve (what they deserve being nothing at all).
I am not sure. Perhaps some of them would rather remain incels, rather than bang a fat chick. I actually find that to be admirable, as bad as the rest of their behavior is. That sort of behavior should not be enabled.
Some of the women there are odious shrews, while others were screwed over by some guy who got them pregnant and then left them. The sub does not seem to distinguish between the two. The blue-haired, fat whales with 19 facial piercings, by all means call them bitches.
"We live in a society" is a leftist meme to disregard correct talking points, but it is correct. It's not just ONE thing that's caused an increased rise of incels, you should know that.
-- The slow acceptance of degeneracy/hedonism. "Oh, just let them do what they want, they're not harming anyone."
-- The demonization of male masculinity in favor of feminity and/or the blurring of the roles between the sexes.
-- The continue societal pressure to push for more favoritism towards women and ethnic minorities to compensate for something that happened half a century ago or more.
-- The huge risk of a marriage financially ruining you if there's a divorce and the court systems almost always favoring the mother.
-- The normalization of 'single motherhood' like as it is some sort of virtue and the trivialization of how essential the role of a father is towards raising well adjusted children.
-- The normalization of divorce instead of the societal pressure on couples to stay together and work on the issues with their relationships.
-- The secularization of our society - lack of spirituality, whether it's towards a god or multiple gods gives people less reason to live out a virtuous life.
-- The monetization of sex/social interaction - stuff like OnlyFans is a perfect description of it - as a video I watched by Glink put it. You could even say unfettered capitalism is actually the cause because of how "valuable" of a "good" (as in commodity, not a good thing of course) OnlyFans is. That's a philosophical discussion we can have later but capitalism itself is a double edged sword that makes this commodification of sex even easier.
I could go on and on, but it's a combination of leftist post-modernist dogma + gynocentrism + technology + a bunch of other things. I was like you - I refused to believe this stuff at the start of GG as well - I thought most of it is just due to individuals just being nutjobs and this being unfortunate events, but considering there has been fewer babies, fewer marriages, more divorces, and less "happiness" among millennials and younger generation folks, I've come to realize there is no easy one thing you can fix to stop this.
And what's worse? Both men AND women are saying they feel worse off, even before COVID, so what the fuck is going on here?
We can improve ourselves, yes, but it is clear there are outside forces that are trying to interfere, heck, destroy that ability. Some of us have "awakened" to it but there's too few of us and too many of them.
To be fair, the convincing is done mostly by society and media.
Incels have no family. A lot are likely depressed, and feel the world has given them nothing and only taken away. Thus they decide they will take back.
It's difficult to disagree. Women took their hobbies, their interests, their future and their freedom and gave them nothing but pure disdain and genocidal rhetoric targeting them.
Trouble is, violent revolutions will only strengthen the feminist case for mass genocide.
I bet you the borm for incels is a domineering mother.
Islamic fundamentalists nodding vigorously in the corner.
How do I phrase this without sounding like a weirdo myself?
Evolutionarily, it literally is. This is why men go crazy when they don't have sex, and women go crazy when they don't have children. Since men are not the ones who give birth to children (REEEE TWANSPHOBIA), they just need to have sex for their biology to be comforted, while women need to actually give birth.
The problem with the incel lot is not necessarily that they are place too much importance on sex. Though I agree with you on that, I think that is just their biology. It is that they think being a self-pitying, pathetic loser is in any way productive. Or maybe they realize that they isn't productive, but they act like a woman - in rather than trying to solve their problem, they just want to whine about it without solving it.