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[Archive] "To understand Trump’s support, we must think in terms of multiracial Whiteness" (archive.vn)
posted 5 years ago by ThatYellowBastard 5 years ago by ThatYellowBastard +41 / -0
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– Decrixxx 36 points 5 years ago +36 / -0

professor of social and cultural analysis at New York University. She is the author, most recently, of “Cruelty as Citizenship: How Migrant Suffering Sustains White Democracy.”

trash

and the article is even more trash

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– current_horror 39 points 5 years ago +39 / -0

How migrant suffering sustains white democracy

They're coming right out and saying it now. White democracy is the problem. White populations must be demographically remade or denied democracy.

I'm guessing that rising cost of living and unemployment will not be attributed to runaway immigration...

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– coke501 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

And then you look at black countries and realize: When they say white democracy, they don't mean white democracy. They mean democracy itself.

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– ThatYellowBastard [S] 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

It's an opinion piece from WaPo what did you expect?

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– onetruephilosoraptor 37 points 5 years ago +37 / -0

Academia is full of cogs in the leftist machine who are forced to think the exact same way or they risk being ostracized or even fired.

No one is permitted to challenge their retarded ideas.

I used to work in a STEM field in academia.

Every Leadership role in every department was filled entirely by Jewish men and women with a few token positions given to Woke White women, woke Black women, woke Latino women and woke Asian women.

No individual was allowed to dissent against their progressive propaganda.

This is essentially what Biden's whole administration is likely going to be.

This nation is so fucked.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 23 points 5 years ago +23 / -0

STEM management in Woke Capital is becoming the same way, except there's more Whites and Asians. But they have to be self-hating.

The engineers I've known who have gone into management start out sane and simply adopt Woke progressivism as a persona they can "turn on" when they need to and "turn off" when they're among friends. But over time they internalize it, and to the extent they dissent at all it's of the spineless "I agree with what they're trying to do but they take it too far" variety which provides no meaningful opposition.

Read old books, and use old technology.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 19 points 5 years ago +19 / -0

You hit the nail on the head.

Woke Human Resources departments have forced this cancer on even technical background STEM managers in every major corporation.

Reading old books and using old tech is good but it does not even help stop the woke behemoth's march forward.

If everyone retreats or silently accepts wokeness, they will only continue to get more brazen.

Thanks to pervasiveness of cancel culture, no one stands up.

It is an utter nightmare.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

I suggest using old technology simply as a survival tactic, for those who eg. want to drive a car with functional brakes or a fly in a commercial airliner with an expertly designed fly by wire system instead of one thrown together by "engineers" making $8/hr.

I stand up -- vocally -- but people don't really understand why; and they think I sound like a crazy person when I try to explain it.

I think one of the reasons my colleagues change is that they don't think the change is bad: they think it's simply a natural extension of the standard American liberal culture in which they were raised. So even when they intuit that something is "wrong" they lack the means of being able to meaningfully challenge that view or offer an alternative. "I agree with what they're trying to do but they take it too far" is them being honest.

That is the nightmare, not the cancel culture.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

The problem is that many people like your colleagues are sadly normies who still fall for the media indoctrination.

They think any change is good as long as the people in power tell them so.

The nightmare is that the people who understand the danger are scared to speak up due to cancel culture while the normies foolishly believe that any change borne out of progressivism is good.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

I'm saying that once someone does decide to speak up, a whole new struggle of doing so while being taken seriously begins.

I've noticed that when someone speaks up and says "what we are doing is wrong" -- could be woke HR policy or even a design requirement or schedule estimate -- the first question they get asked is "what should we be doing instead?" The further away from the status quo the answer is, the less seriously it is taken; and the harder the battle is.

It doesn't matter if the status quo is only 6 months old and what you are suggesting was formerly the status quo for 100 years; you are now challenging the status quo and the burden of proof is on you.

Unless someone has put a lot of thought into how to incrementally reverse course on wokeness, they are not going to be taken seriously even if their reasoning is sound. And most people don't have sound reasoning; they simply intuit that what's being done is wrong. And that's not going to be good enough to convince an organization to do something different.

It goes beyond simple cancel culture and into some of the organizational issues that caused the Challenger explosion.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Oh okay I get what you are saying.

Fixing this mess entails dealing with leftists who engage in wokeism groupthink.

There are solutions to prevent groupthink from happening in the first place by fostering the importance of listening to different viewpoints but it is extremely difficult to do this after groupthink has spread and already taken root in many institutions.

We already know how the left generally deals with opposing voices. It doesn't listen, it attacks them via ad-hominems, silencing them and finally deplatforming them.

We are dealing with the majority of the corporate world already engaging in woke groupthink.

You are right that a solution is very difficult to implement in these conditions.

James Lindsay of New Discourses presents atleast a few ideas on how to start chipping away at wokeism.

Check out his New Discourses.

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– TentElephant 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

You just explained Bryan Lunduke perfectly.

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– ThatYellowBastard [S] 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

Back in my day that was called being an individual and making informed decisions about your country and future. But because it goes against collectivism and racial voting blocks it is verboten.

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– Crawmerex2 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

Not multiracial whiteness, multiracial Whiteness. Note the capital letter. When they use the capital letter they are describing a political ideology that has nothing to do with genetics. They do the same with black and Black.

Capital letter White stands for meritocracy and equal pay for equal work and all that stuff that was in the Smithsonian poster from a few months back.

Capital letter Black is all about the politics of the oppressed minority. In the UK a Italian decent teacher was included in the Black teachers caucus (or something like that) because he was a minority.

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– cccpneveragain 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

More typical Wapo drivel. I'm going to go with how about these latinos aren't stupid and because they trace their heritage back to a certain country they aren't a cult. My opinion, they assimilate well given time (particularly when compared to muzzies who want the opposite). I live around a ton of them and the ones that arrived legally, have families, are second generation Americans, etc. don't seem to give a shit about being a bleeding heart for people in Mexico that want to cheat their way in.

If you want to speak Spanish and celebrate a quinceañera in your family, go ahead. If you want to be a Proud Boy, be a Proud Boy. Trump doesn’t care. As long as you love him, he’ll love you.

Uh, yeah that's exactly how I'd describe literally Hitler too. I recall from my extensive history study that if you wanted to speak Hebrew and celebrate a bar mitzvah in your family go ahead. Hitler doesn't care. As long as you love him he'll love you. /s

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– ThatYellowBastard [S] 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

Trump doesn’t care. As long as you love him, he’ll love you

I've been seeing a lot of that sentiment lately both online among the lefties I know and I don't know where they get it from (other than themselves). It's like they honestly believe that conservatives and the right as a whole could never really embrace someone of a different race/class/insert group here, not even thinking that our differences are not as important as living free and being Americans.

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– cccpneveragain 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

I think they just totally don't understand the situation at all. Most likely from only thinking what they are told to.

They think Trump is a cult leader for one, and while sure there may be a small amount of people that follow him like that, it's really just that tons of us just don't want the world of censorship, corruption, and government control that the left is selling. Race isn't even a factor. I'd vote for a black guy or whatever if I believed they would work towards the same goals I have.

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– Knife-TotingRat 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

I know exactly where the line itself came from. Just replace "Trump" with "Jesus", they're pulling it from old-school television sermonizing a la Oral Roberts et al. Yes, it is bizarre, I'm sitting here all uncanny valley about it, and it weirds me out.

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– acp_k2win 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

Every day I think "this is peak clown world" and every day I'm wrong...

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– Kienan 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

The Trump administration’s anti-immigration, anti-civil rights stance...

Citation needed!

...has made it easy to classify the president’s loyalists as a homogenous mob of white nationalists.

Alright, guys, I made it a sentence in, and I'm done. That's gotta be a record.

Fine, let's finish this first paragraph, it can't be worse, right?

But take a look at the FBI’s posters showing people wanted in the insurrectionist assault on the U.S. Capitol: Among the many White faces are a few that are clearly Latino or African American.

Alright, all Trump supporters (and presumably Republicans) are insurrectionist terrorist white nationalists, seems to be the implication.

Seriously, that's the first two fucking sentences. This is what we're going to be seeing from now on now, too, huh? Is this the New Normal™?

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