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"the typical crowd" when you push back even a little bit against their bullying and aggression.....
posted 5 years ago by yoisi 5 years ago by yoisi +58 / -0

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1120560/discussions/0/3002178829576150873/ , "dont be as bad as them" they say, ""you are on the wrong road" they say, "its really both sides" they say

no . F.u.c.k. Y.o.u

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– onetruephilosoraptor 49 points 5 years ago +49 / -0

This is what the left always does. Only complete retards would ever think the people opposing sjws are anywhere near as bad as the sjws

The left's playbook consists of DARVO, Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, utilizing the Hegelian Dialectic to push change, and of course I cannot forget to mention that they have a giant advantage since they already captured all the major institutions via their Long March through the institutions half a century ago.

The right is nearly 70 years behind on the culture war

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– AzureAceStarburstXXX 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

All leftists are complicit in their war on innocents.

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– Gizortnik 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

They say there are not bad tactics, only bad targets... but if everything is political, then everyone is a target. The question is only when do they become a target.

The Left do not tolerate the idea of "innocents". All people are combatants in politics, because everything is political.

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– Soup_Navy_Admiral 41 points 5 years ago +41 / -0

And for the record, I'm anti SJW myself, both the left AND the right wing ones.

I too am always on the lookout for those pro-free-market Communists just as much as the centralized-economy Communists.

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– MargarineMongoose 30 points 5 years ago +30 / -0

This shit pisses me off.

It's right there in the name: Social Justice. That is a product of the Left exclusively.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Meh. Social Justice stems from the Catholic Church and is also a foundational concept in Jihadism. It's not purely of the Left.

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– deleted 26 points 5 years ago +26 / -0
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– BandageBandolier 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

I mean I get it, but I can certainly still fault them for being stupid and using terms nonsensically, rather than learning to stick to only talking when they actually understand what they're saying.

If someone said they wanted to "defensalize the innocent from both sides" I'd understand what they mean, but still think they're retarded too.

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– HostoryStartsAt1776 32 points 5 years ago +32 / -0

This is why I say we should give no quarter to “centrists”. It’s just a convenient location for liberals to run to when they get any pushback.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 33 points 5 years ago +33 / -0

A former friend called himself a "moderate".

Yet this moderate supports abortion, affirmative action, gun control and pushing diversity.

He only has leftist views but he likes to masquerade around as a "moderate".

A lot of centrists these days are leftists wearing a mask.

I doubt there are many real centrists out there.

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– APDSmith 21 points 5 years ago +21 / -0

Or, alternately, it's an attempt to colonise the centre ground, to lay claim to all the political discourse.

Tell me they're not above that.

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– Pathologic3 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

This way they can more easily claim moderate views are 'far right', makes sense to me.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

The left has no lows they won't stoop to.

What you propose is not implausible.

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– SilverReality1 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

I consider myself to be centrist. I do so because I tend to fall in the middle on most polarising issues.

For example:

  • I support abortion, but do think there should be rules around it such as term limits. I’d also like to see something done about the disgusting people who are so pro-abortion they get a kick out of it. Wasn’t it Lena Dunham who said she wished she had one? Yeah, that shit.
  • I support gun rights, completely. If you take away legally owned guns from law abiding citizens, only criminals would have them. My country got fucked over in this regard after a certain mosque shooting, and it is very worrying.
  • I support free speech, and detest censorship.
  • I believe that rehabilitation is better than locking people up for non violent crimes, except for repeat offenders. Violent crimes should be punished as harshly as the law allows.
  • I detest socialism, but do believe that unregulated capitalism is not ideal. For example, how is lobbying legal? It doesn’t make sense to me that some mega corporation is allowed to influence government this way. Government is supposed to represent the people, not fucking Amazon, Google etc.
  • I am sick and tired of trans shit. I know trans people, and treat them with respect and call them she/her etc. BUT, my wife has a lot of “non-binary” friends with “she/they” and other nonsense pronouns. They is prural, I’m not calling anyone a fucking “they”. I am also disgusted at the trans activists pushing their shit on children, and how nobody is allowed to criticise them.
  • I did and still do support gay marriage. Don’t see why two people who love each other shouldn’t be able to get married.
  • I do not support affirmative action, but I do believe that people who grew up in poverty are disadvantaged when it comes to things like education. I do support programs to help these people get on a level playing field, so when they leave University or whatever, they have as much a chance as anyone else to go and make something of themselves.
  • Continuing from my previous point, I do believe in meritocracy. Give underprivileged people a leg up at the start, but don’t do it based on skin colour, gender etc. I disagree with gender/racial etc quotas. People should get jobs and promoted accosting to their skills, work ethic, dedication etc.
  • Also, while I support giving underprivileged people help, whether through university programs aimed at letting more people from that group in, I believe it should be based on class, not race, gender etc. White people can be just as underprivileged as black people, men as much as women etc.
  • Anti-white racism exists, and is disgusting. I hate how the left has redefined racism in such a way that they can be insanely racist and it is not only OK, it is widely accepted and encouraged.

In summary, I consider myself centrist because there are issues where I am somewhat more left leaning, while there are other issues I am more right leaning on. For others, I am somewhere in the middle. The issues above are just whatever examples I could come up with while having my morning coffee.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

Congrats you got some truly centrist positions.

You say you value free speech, gun rights, meritocracy, and don't want major globalists corporations running our lives. That alone makes you someone I can find common ground with.

However if you were in the United States, the current Democrats here would viciously label you as far right for not parroting their pushing of socialism, anti-white propaganda, mass late term abortions and tranny bullshit in schools.

Your positions are hilariously similar to President Trump's policy positions. He is essentially a centrist populist in terms of most of his policies. Guess what they call him?

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– Steampunk_Moustache 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

abortion

I support abortion because I consider a dead foetus a preferable alternative to an impoverished, neglected child that grows up to be a maladjusted junkie thug. I don't consider either option to be desirable, but I know which I prefer.

affirmative action

I support it based on income and assets, and oppose it based on race.

gun control

Really difficult in the context of the US. There are so many guns in circulation that any gun ban is going to empower criminals. If you're going to do this you need to seriously incentivize criminals to NOT carry guns ie: by making them a serious sentence multiplier. On top of this, I recognize that cities and rural areas are incredibly different. In a city, you can scream and your neighbours will hear you. In rural areas, a gun is your only realistic hope.

pushing diversity

If you have to 'push' it, its probably because nobody wants it.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

you need to seriously incentivize criminals to NOT carry guns ie: by making them a serious sentence multiplier

You assume criminals are capable of abstract thinking. Prison time doesn't scare them, much less more prison time, because they can't even think a week ahead, much less a 30-year to lifetime sentence.

Criminals, however, are scared of getting shot mid-crime, because that shit's instant and it fucking hurts immediately. Survivors that don't learn the first time will quickly Darwin themselves out of the gene pool.

In a city, you can scream and your neighbours will hear you

Bystander syndrome is a thing, you know, to the point where first responders have to teach people to scream "YOU! CALL 911!" at a specific person instead of "HELP ME! SOMEONE! PLEASE!" People won't do shit unless it's a direct command because they'll assume someone else will help instead.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

"Center" usually describes the center of the Overton window. When the left keeps pushing it left, it's only natural that "center" moves leftwards to match.

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– Adamrises 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

Its really hard to grasp centrism when one side is so openly unfathomably monstrous compared to the other (in terms of power).

Its just a cheap way for people to be lazy and avoid labels because they are terrified.

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– MrJ4242 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

I’m a centrist. I hold the belief the government has no right to tell people what to do and not to do in their bedrooms hobbies or anywhere or anything that doesn’t impede another’s inherent rights. I also believe entering the US illegally should be a capital offense in which the execution is carried out via crucifixion along the tops of a border wall. Centrist truly means holds opinions and ideas from both sides it’s been warped to be a shield for infiltrating progressives.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Centrists are not people you should avoid giving quarter to. They're just ignorant and taking 'safe' positions.

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– FriedSalmon 23 points 5 years ago +23 / -0

I've never got this either, We have on the right: "Live and let live. Leave people alone. I just want to do my own thing, be happy, raise a family." Which has pushed further back to more tradional roles as people have looked into history more. Also with the life attitude that people need to grow a thicker skin to protect themselves from spiteful words and are all big on the personal responsibility thing. Actions have consequences and all that shit. Also don't sterilize kids.

The on the left we have: "I don't like it, SHUT IT DOOOOOOWN" and they scream and cry and threaten until they get what they want.

There isn't even a comparison to be made. One side are adults that want to be left alone to do their thing. One side are perpetual teenagers what want free stuff and to never grow up.

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– Knife-TotingRat 19 points 5 years ago +19 / -0

Live and let live used to be the "leftist" hippie thing.

"We don't like it get rid of it" was the old conservative right, the Jack Chick pamphlets et al.

Things sure flipped in 50 years. Yet the "Left" doesn't see that it has become the Establishment it hated.

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– fixinlorb 22 points 5 years ago +22 / -0

Nah liberals were the ones banning shit back in the day too lmao. Tipper Gore was the one that started all the PC shit. But once PC culture fell out of vogue in the 90s, they pretended it was just crazy Christians ignoring the feminists that pushed against sexist media or sexual media

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– Knife-TotingRat 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Yeah, I always confused Tipper for one of the televangelist crowd of the time, like Tammy Fay Bakker (who I later saw on TV schmoozing with that flamer from Empty Nest, actually.)

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– yoisi [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Even now when its so obviously, completely and solely them this time, i've even seen some of them trying to blame this attack on the company on right wingers (or try to claim "its both sides " like the guy in the post)

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– Adamrises 21 points 5 years ago +21 / -0

First they did their usual dogpile attack.

When it was rebuked they called the Company liars and downplayed.

When the proof came out about how bad it was, they attempt to guilt by association it.

This is why you can never win with these people. They have no foundation to stand on. They seek only victory, no principle won't be discarded along the way.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Insert Gizortnik's explanation of how leftists only value power and how leftism is essentially an ideology of war.

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– Gizortnik 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

That's 'cause I'm fuckin' right.

A principled position is a tactical weakness because it's a fixed defense. Hypocrisy is always a better tactical alternative because it prevents you from having to defend a position against an enemy attack.

The Left thinks that people with principles are idiots.

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– yoisi [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

and then when they realize they are losing support they try to claim it was the right and not them that did it. Seriously im already seeing that nonsense of them claiming it was conservative right wingers that got offended by the boobies.

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– SargentSlate 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

The old KIA reddit was full of gullible people that used to invoke false moral equivalency saying that the "religious Right" is just as bad as the SJWs in trying to censor video games.

The so-called religious right has no power and does not control any institutions unlike the neo-Marxists who control all the institutions.

The same trick is used by the left when continually bring up imaginary boogeymen of "white supremacy." There are more leprechauns in the USA than there are bona fide white supremacists.

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– Gizortnik 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

This is not different from when they said shit like "social justice isn't political. Keep your politics out of my games."

They know exactly how disingenuous it is and they don't give a shit. They are at war. All they care about is convincing you not to resist their aggression.

I'm on the left, and we usually don't give a flying ♥♥♥♥ about games like these.

Look around. They've cared as hard as they ever have for the past 6-8 straight fucking years.

I've never even heard of any of the controversy or death threats around this game

Because he either genuinely hasn't inside his echo chamber, or he has and doesn't give a shit.

We can be against the lunatic fringes on both sides without giving up the things we care about, games included.

That's not when you said when you screamed "everything is political" and tried to censor both games and speech.

Honestly, there should be not even one ounce of tolerance granted to these freaks. Each time they open their mouth with this bullshit, your only response should be "kill yourself". It's what the rest of us have been told for 6 years anytime we made a single objection.

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