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"the typical crowd" when you push back even a little bit against their bullying and aggression.....
posted 5 years ago by yoisi 5 years ago by yoisi +58 / -0

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1120560/discussions/0/3002178829576150873/ , "dont be as bad as them" they say, ""you are on the wrong road" they say, "its really both sides" they say

no . F.u.c.k. Y.o.u

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– onetruephilosoraptor 33 points 5 years ago +33 / -0

A former friend called himself a "moderate".

Yet this moderate supports abortion, affirmative action, gun control and pushing diversity.

He only has leftist views but he likes to masquerade around as a "moderate".

A lot of centrists these days are leftists wearing a mask.

I doubt there are many real centrists out there.

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– APDSmith 21 points 5 years ago +21 / -0

Or, alternately, it's an attempt to colonise the centre ground, to lay claim to all the political discourse.

Tell me they're not above that.

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– Pathologic3 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

This way they can more easily claim moderate views are 'far right', makes sense to me.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

The left has no lows they won't stoop to.

What you propose is not implausible.

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– SilverReality1 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

I consider myself to be centrist. I do so because I tend to fall in the middle on most polarising issues.

For example:

  • I support abortion, but do think there should be rules around it such as term limits. I’d also like to see something done about the disgusting people who are so pro-abortion they get a kick out of it. Wasn’t it Lena Dunham who said she wished she had one? Yeah, that shit.
  • I support gun rights, completely. If you take away legally owned guns from law abiding citizens, only criminals would have them. My country got fucked over in this regard after a certain mosque shooting, and it is very worrying.
  • I support free speech, and detest censorship.
  • I believe that rehabilitation is better than locking people up for non violent crimes, except for repeat offenders. Violent crimes should be punished as harshly as the law allows.
  • I detest socialism, but do believe that unregulated capitalism is not ideal. For example, how is lobbying legal? It doesn’t make sense to me that some mega corporation is allowed to influence government this way. Government is supposed to represent the people, not fucking Amazon, Google etc.
  • I am sick and tired of trans shit. I know trans people, and treat them with respect and call them she/her etc. BUT, my wife has a lot of “non-binary” friends with “she/they” and other nonsense pronouns. They is prural, I’m not calling anyone a fucking “they”. I am also disgusted at the trans activists pushing their shit on children, and how nobody is allowed to criticise them.
  • I did and still do support gay marriage. Don’t see why two people who love each other shouldn’t be able to get married.
  • I do not support affirmative action, but I do believe that people who grew up in poverty are disadvantaged when it comes to things like education. I do support programs to help these people get on a level playing field, so when they leave University or whatever, they have as much a chance as anyone else to go and make something of themselves.
  • Continuing from my previous point, I do believe in meritocracy. Give underprivileged people a leg up at the start, but don’t do it based on skin colour, gender etc. I disagree with gender/racial etc quotas. People should get jobs and promoted accosting to their skills, work ethic, dedication etc.
  • Also, while I support giving underprivileged people help, whether through university programs aimed at letting more people from that group in, I believe it should be based on class, not race, gender etc. White people can be just as underprivileged as black people, men as much as women etc.
  • Anti-white racism exists, and is disgusting. I hate how the left has redefined racism in such a way that they can be insanely racist and it is not only OK, it is widely accepted and encouraged.

In summary, I consider myself centrist because there are issues where I am somewhat more left leaning, while there are other issues I am more right leaning on. For others, I am somewhere in the middle. The issues above are just whatever examples I could come up with while having my morning coffee.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

Congrats you got some truly centrist positions.

You say you value free speech, gun rights, meritocracy, and don't want major globalists corporations running our lives. That alone makes you someone I can find common ground with.

However if you were in the United States, the current Democrats here would viciously label you as far right for not parroting their pushing of socialism, anti-white propaganda, mass late term abortions and tranny bullshit in schools.

Your positions are hilariously similar to President Trump's policy positions. He is essentially a centrist populist in terms of most of his policies. Guess what they call him?

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– Steampunk_Moustache 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

abortion

I support abortion because I consider a dead foetus a preferable alternative to an impoverished, neglected child that grows up to be a maladjusted junkie thug. I don't consider either option to be desirable, but I know which I prefer.

affirmative action

I support it based on income and assets, and oppose it based on race.

gun control

Really difficult in the context of the US. There are so many guns in circulation that any gun ban is going to empower criminals. If you're going to do this you need to seriously incentivize criminals to NOT carry guns ie: by making them a serious sentence multiplier. On top of this, I recognize that cities and rural areas are incredibly different. In a city, you can scream and your neighbours will hear you. In rural areas, a gun is your only realistic hope.

pushing diversity

If you have to 'push' it, its probably because nobody wants it.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

you need to seriously incentivize criminals to NOT carry guns ie: by making them a serious sentence multiplier

You assume criminals are capable of abstract thinking. Prison time doesn't scare them, much less more prison time, because they can't even think a week ahead, much less a 30-year to lifetime sentence.

Criminals, however, are scared of getting shot mid-crime, because that shit's instant and it fucking hurts immediately. Survivors that don't learn the first time will quickly Darwin themselves out of the gene pool.

In a city, you can scream and your neighbours will hear you

Bystander syndrome is a thing, you know, to the point where first responders have to teach people to scream "YOU! CALL 911!" at a specific person instead of "HELP ME! SOMEONE! PLEASE!" People won't do shit unless it's a direct command because they'll assume someone else will help instead.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

"Center" usually describes the center of the Overton window. When the left keeps pushing it left, it's only natural that "center" moves leftwards to match.

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