Almost more horrifyingly, it seems the draw is “parasocial anime girl feelings to relieve loneliness”
The whole thing feels like it’s one step away from “ai girlfriend”
What’s the name of the numba 1 idol (performance/celebrity) magazine, so I can look at some covers. Because if they both involve young attractive girls in skimpy clothes, but some of them are pretending to sing, I don’t see much of a gap between the two. Much like “the pussycat dolls” or Sports Illustrated swimsuit editions, you can dress up soft core porn all you like, that doesn’t change the fundamental draw of the product
to summarize vtubing as a whole, it's wrestling using anime avatars.
Huh…that’s a view I’ve never seen articulated before, I can kind of see what you’re saying, based on what little I know of things (also that kind of explains more the “manager” angle - they can set up “storylines” between the girls or whatever)… interesting to say the least but is that really the full story?
What is your definition of thot streaming?
Basically, any time a woman streamer uses the fact she is a woman (explicitly or implicitly) to manipulate her male viewers into donating. This could be as basic as doing titty streams in hot tubs like used to plague twitch, or it could be a chick who always wears sweaters but emotionally manipulates her viewers with any of an infinite number of tactics (flirting for donos, grooming simps/white knights, leading on whale simps in dms, whatever)
is an extension of idol culture
Is that not basically like saying “is an extension of soft core porn culture”? Idol culture, like vtubing, is quite foreign to me, but my understanding is it is basically just soft core / “respectable” porn, and the girls often go into real porn after they age out. Correct me if I’m wrong please
Idealized Girl Syndrome
That’s kinda the vibe I got from what little I’ve seen of the phenomena. Like some kind of “irl waifu”, and since you can’t see her you’re obviously going to project onto her aspects of your “idealized girl”.
ouuuuu she plays vidya and talks about manga and anime, maybe if I superchat just the right thing she’ll let me show her I’m husbando material
Then you add on top of that this weird “management” (pimp) system and it starts to just feel like twitch thots with extra steps
Why do people like vtubers?
How are they different from normal youtubers?
I don’t understand why they exist (other than perhaps “shyness”), and I doubly don’t understand the fan culture that’s exploded around them. Are they supposed to be “cutesy”/“wholesome” twitch thots or something else entirely?
I remember when there was that big pro-vaccine push on reddit years back before Covid started.
The mod of r/, and then c/conspiracies documented this psyop very well, and quite presciently, as he started noticing (and calling attention to) this trend over half a decade before covid was deployed:
https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/12kFGRg1bN/heres-nearly-a-decade-of-oc-thre/c
I think I’m making the point that “it’s neither ”side”, but a manipulation from the top->down affecting everyone”
Yes, but how many on the right think trump is literally the second coming (or, if they don’t take it that far, then just a “white hat operation to expose the satanic pedophiles”)?
It’s just a silly game to play that doesn’t get us anywhere - most everyone believes retarded shit in some form or another
That view just doesn’t make sense imo, “the left” (i.e. the population that “leans left”) aren’t the same as the people who are using them as useful idiots. Think of it like this: you’re surely “conservative” (“right leaning”), do your views on the world have anything in common with Lindsey Graham’s or Mitch McConnell’s views? Almost surely not, beyond surface level similarities that would be obviously different below the surface.
Remind me again who's been doing all the attempted assassinations?
Obvious patsies? Or does it not strike you as odd that we know nothing more about the trump shooter today than we did the day it happened?
It’s not outside of the realm of possibility, but it’s far less likely than the bots being theirs.
I could imagine a competitor, or even just someone making some money on the stock freefall, “false flagging” things to make them look even worse, it can’t be that expensive to set up and it has the potential for huge benefits
Also you have to realize there are multiple parties at play here - Disney has incentive to boost the image of ubisoft’s new star wars game, ubisoft has been in the “culture war” lens for a while now with their ass creed decisions n shiet (so it could be part of that without ubisuck’s direct involvement - potentially).
I just happened to watch part of a video where Tony Hinchcliffe says that chinese state media coordinated with a no-name comedian who hinchcliffe called a chink to get him cancelled. One can only assume why, probably just something like stoking the culture war to weaken us but that’s almost beside the point - it’s not immediately obvious who is running any given influence operation:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l5DtpgTOfA4&pp=ygUddG9ueSBoaW5jaGNsaWZmZSB0cmlnb25vbWV0cnk%3D
I was under the impression he had left Crapcom around the time dead rising 2 came out… but this (translation posted by a tranny) calls him “the head of the MegaMan department”…. I wonder if it’s not just that the guy who still works there keeps in touch with Inafune, and the machine translation has confused the hell out of things
Point being: fuck crapcom lol
Based Inafune, he also made Dead Rising
I wish I lived in Nevada four months ago
It’s like with the modding scene, developers will shoot themselves in the foot just to funnel you into systems they hope will result in you spending more money. Abandoning support for server browsers (hosted at the community’s expense even!) in favor of shudders peer2peer matchmaking is another example of their retarded greed.
How many games have been kept relavent decades after they have any right to be by their modding scene? Not only are companies giving up the free money associated with popular mods (continued sales of the base game), they’re giving up what used to be a major tool for finding new talent (aka hiring a mod team and sometimes even bringing their mod to market, see DotA, Counter-Strike, Team Fortress, Day-Z, and so on)
The only apparent reason being that if you aren’t on community hosted servers, you can’t play with mods, which means if you want to change how anything looks, you need to buy the “skins” from the “market”. I still remember the switch from CS:S to CS:GO, all I could think was “you mean now I need to pay to make my guns look cool? This used to be free!”.
I can't say I see much of the 'colonialism' narrative in Europe. Maybe the UK
My understanding of things is that almost all of the early non-native populations in white European countries (like the UK, France, Spain, the Netherlands, etc) came from their colonies. The UK took in a bunch of indians, France took a ton of Algerians/africans, Spain took a ton of South Americans/mestizos, the Nordic countries allowed people from their African colonies to immigrate, and so on and so forth.
Which is to say, I totally see the “colonialism narrative” existing as part of the root cause of the current migration crisis in Europe, parallel to those other narratives discussed earlier, and likewise built on “national shame”.
But if you talk with them like "sensible people are against X", they can be with you.
Makes sense and seems like an improvement over the endless adhoc adhoms which tend to be the default - that is, as long as it never gets to the point of an attempted gaslight (“this is what sane people think!”). Not to say you do that, but it’s an easy trap to fall into. You see it often in conspiracy discussions. Someone will have “insane” (to normies) opinion X, Y, and Z, but if you mention conspiracy W to them you’re either a retard or a shill.
He’s a real no-nonsense kinda guy
LUCKILY those in the know can still find Anglin’s antics
https://www.unz.com/aanglin/only-52-of-female-doctors-claim-patients-sexually-harass-them/
And iirc the 350lb woman died of a heart attack
Both shame and pride can be used to keep the people down.
Best example today is israel, ironically (?) enough
Look at how shame is instrumentalized in Germany and the United States.
Yeah I think there are a lot of parallels all around the world on this one. I just read someone comparing the slavery Narrative in the US to the colonialism narrative in Europe to the indian mistreatment narrative in Canada and so on and so forth - but now I can’t find it. Unfortunate, because it was spot on with the parallels.
What I mean, in terms of World War 2, is that "Churchill was a psychopath" is not a particularly useful statement.
Ahh, that makes sense. Yeah I guess more broadly this issue is “hyperbolizing / straw manning” the opposition. I see it so often where all people who call themselves “left leaning” are smeared with the worst possible framing of the word. “Everyone’s a deranged commie, they’re all satanists, they want to kill babies” etc etc
99% of people think they are the good guy. The vast, vast majority of those people are reasoning their way to that position, though it must obviously be the case that the vast majority of those are using faulty reasoning in some way(s). Therefore I try to treat the faulty reasoning as the enemy, not the dunce who’s been duped, because I know that often enough I’ve been that dunce.
I’ll illustrate with a scenario since everyone has seen different images/posts/articles/etc:
Open gewgle - search for “talmud quotes”, go to images
First result looks exactly like the kind of post we’re talking about (damning talmud quotes)
https://i.redd.it/rrjqxm9eqx9d1.jpeg
Though it’s posted to r/judaism in the context of “I’m sure these are fake but I don’t know how”, this helps ensure discussion stays safely within bounds
Here is one of the top responses:
Soferim does not exist. This is a completely fabricated book and quote.
He then goes on to use word-magic to muddy the waters on a few of the other quotes. Is he correct? Only by adopting some excruciating twists of logic. Will (most) everyone who googles “talmud quotes” walk away thinking the whole thing is much ado about nothing? A large amount will, unfortunately.
But yeah, what I mean by “fake” quotes are the ones taken from sources other than the talmud, being presented as “talmud quotes”. Often you’ll see stuff from, e.g. the toledat yeshu added in. Heinous filth of course, but there’s no reason to muddy the waters of our own arguments (when we uncritically share selections with these subverted/smuggled in verses). I’m not talking about the pilpul often used to try and weasel out of the plain meanings of the translations, just the conflation of sources, which happens surprisingly often.
I was kind of blown away when I found this movie the other day called “Look Who’s Back”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WiiUm7v0ilo&pp=ygUabG9vayB3aG8ncyBiYWNrIGZ1bGwgbW92aWU%3D
In a sentence, imagine “Borat”, except with the main character “Hitler”. At first I was astounded, how could such a movie have been made, in Germany of all places. By the end of the movie it will be more clear, but regardless I found it an enjoyable watch. Some of the most surprising parts were when Hitler interviewed some of the founding members of the AFD, people at migrant protests and the like. Shocking all the more so because this was made in 2013.
Here’s a short clip to see if you think you’ll like it (it’s what convinced me to find and watch it lol):
There's no need for fake talmud quotes.
Yeah, exactly my point - best example I can think of, given the despicable nature and insidious cultural results of the real verses (and the surprisingly frequent occurrence of such “fake” verses being smuggled into a set of real ones, leading to dismissal by association).
I’m not sure how often you browse beyond the walls of KiA, but the best user on the site for exposing fake talmud quotes (when they get posted, usually by handshakes) is, in my experiences, TallestSkil, funnily enough. That’s the hardest part of discerning the truth imo, seeing through the bullshit constructed to mislead us based on our biases. It wouldn’t surprise me to learn much if not all of the “fake” stuff originates as deceptive psyops, “poison pills” meant to spread in the discourse and kill the discussion before it can begin.
They are very invested in WW2 being 'the good war', and they in turn vicariously playing the role of 'the good guys' - because it gives them legitimacy.
That’s absolutely a huge part of it, more so in the past than today (which has chosen to suppress the memory of past glory in order to fixate obsessively on alleged shame) - the Narrative(s) told about this time are far more widespread than the realities
I do think the way the ultra-right goes about combating this is very counterproductive and wrong.
I think I know what you mean. When the “enemy” has so completely assumed control of the Narratives, and the Paradigms, and the organs of society, the only proper response is shining the light of truth. Things like fake talmud quotes or purposefully taking things out of context are poisonous, doubly so because there is so much real crime and corruption to expose.
There really is something to be said for “not stooping to their level”. And I’m not saying that in a “oh just turn the other cheek” cop-out, I’m saying: the entire legitimacy of this “new world order” rests on their ability to predict our actions. The worst thing we can do is fall for the same traps that are always set and always sprung. We need to surprise the “powers that be” with something new.
A disgusting potential that had crossed my mind too. Given how lucrative the whole thing is, and how artificial it is at its core, I would be more surprised to learn it isn't happening relatively often