A disgusting potential that had crossed my mind too. Given how lucrative the whole thing is, and how artificial it is at its core, I would be more surprised to learn it isn't happening relatively often
The thing is, a large number of Vtubers’ IRL identities are known, and many of the non-corporate ones even make appearances at conventions as themselves (albeit wearing face masks), and for the most part, female vtubers are attractive women who choose to go behind the avatar of the character for whatever reason, mostly either the sake of security or being introverts otherwise
Sure, like I said in my original question there are conceivable reasons why someone would want to be a streamer without necessarily linking their real face/identity to it. I get that much. What I don’t get is the fandom. It’s turning grown men into something more unrecognizable than fucking kpop fans. And it’s not even like “oh we’re getting a real glimpse at who this girl is, she’s 100% genuine and the anime avatar is just for personal reasons” - I guaran-fucking-tee these chicks, “corporate” or not, are not being honest about themselves and their lives. For the corporate ones, it’s probably written into their contracts that they can’t been seen in public with their boyfriend/husband, much less discuss their existence on stream.
Explain it to me please, how is this any different than being a pokimane simp but almost objectively gayer? I’m open to changing my opinion I’m just letting you know where it currently stands
What I don’t get is the fandom. It’s turning grown men into something more unrecognizable than fucking kpop fans.
Ehh? From hearing about things before the termination of Selen Tatsuki to now being an avid follower of vtubers since, it's weird, as I'd moreso classify the fandom of vtubers as more akin to sports teams, but even then, I don't see the vtuber fandom as being any more different to being a fan of any other streamer, like Ludwig, Moist Critikal, etc.
And it’s not even like “oh we’re getting a real glimpse at who this girl is, she’s 100% genuine and the anime avatar is just for personal reasons” - I guaran-fucking-tee these chicks, “corporate” or not, are not being honest about themselves and their lives. For the corporate ones, it’s probably written into their contracts that they can’t been seen in public with their boyfriend/husband, much less discuss their existence on stream.
If 4chan and the girls' various previous accounts didn't exist, then I'd get this point, but because the Internet never forgets, it's actually very easy to discover who many vtubers used to be (assuming they were/are previously content creators), and digging into this rabbit hole has allowed me to see that a vast majority of vtubers are genuine, or at the very least the most amount of 'faking' they're doing is simply acting as their character.
With the boyfriend/significant other point, there are vtubers, such as Nyanners, formerly of VShojo, were the entire point of her channel was that her boyfriend was also a vtuber and that a bunch of her content was with her boyfriend, but since she left VShojo, I honestly haven't seen that much of her, but that's probably because she's always done a lot of IRL/facecam streams ever since she did her face reveal.
Regardless of that, like I said to someone else earlier, it's honestly not that hard to not just find out information about who vtubers were, but to tell whether or not someone's being genuine, but a lot of that has to do with how hard people like /vt/ on 4chan investigate vtubers to begin with, and the information that comes up. Then again, 4chan's always been somewhat unhinged, there are people who track streamers' periods.
From watching the content of vtubers on and off their other accounts, more vtubers are genuine than aren't, especially in Hololive, which it was discovered (and honestly makes sense with who've they have hired over the years and their own history) that Cover filters for agreeableness/vibes when it comes to their talents, and if you don't fit, you won't even make it past the first phase of auditions. Cover doesn't want 'cat fights' and it shows.
A disgusting potential that had crossed my mind too. Given how lucrative the whole thing is, and how artificial it is at its core, I would be more surprised to learn it isn't happening relatively often
The thing is, a large number of Vtubers’ IRL identities are known, and many of the non-corporate ones even make appearances at conventions as themselves (albeit wearing face masks), and for the most part, female vtubers are attractive women who choose to go behind the avatar of the character for whatever reason, mostly either the sake of security or being introverts otherwise
Sure, like I said in my original question there are conceivable reasons why someone would want to be a streamer without necessarily linking their real face/identity to it. I get that much. What I don’t get is the fandom. It’s turning grown men into something more unrecognizable than fucking kpop fans. And it’s not even like “oh we’re getting a real glimpse at who this girl is, she’s 100% genuine and the anime avatar is just for personal reasons” - I guaran-fucking-tee these chicks, “corporate” or not, are not being honest about themselves and their lives. For the corporate ones, it’s probably written into their contracts that they can’t been seen in public with their boyfriend/husband, much less discuss their existence on stream.
Explain it to me please, how is this any different than being a pokimane simp but almost objectively gayer? I’m open to changing my opinion I’m just letting you know where it currently stands
Ehh? From hearing about things before the termination of Selen Tatsuki to now being an avid follower of vtubers since, it's weird, as I'd moreso classify the fandom of vtubers as more akin to sports teams, but even then, I don't see the vtuber fandom as being any more different to being a fan of any other streamer, like Ludwig, Moist Critikal, etc.
If 4chan and the girls' various previous accounts didn't exist, then I'd get this point, but because the Internet never forgets, it's actually very easy to discover who many vtubers used to be (assuming they were/are previously content creators), and digging into this rabbit hole has allowed me to see that a vast majority of vtubers are genuine, or at the very least the most amount of 'faking' they're doing is simply acting as their character.
With the boyfriend/significant other point, there are vtubers, such as Nyanners, formerly of VShojo, were the entire point of her channel was that her boyfriend was also a vtuber and that a bunch of her content was with her boyfriend, but since she left VShojo, I honestly haven't seen that much of her, but that's probably because she's always done a lot of IRL/facecam streams ever since she did her face reveal.
Regardless of that, like I said to someone else earlier, it's honestly not that hard to not just find out information about who vtubers were, but to tell whether or not someone's being genuine, but a lot of that has to do with how hard people like /vt/ on 4chan investigate vtubers to begin with, and the information that comes up. Then again, 4chan's always been somewhat unhinged, there are people who track streamers' periods.
From watching the content of vtubers on and off their other accounts, more vtubers are genuine than aren't, especially in Hololive, which it was discovered (and honestly makes sense with who've they have hired over the years and their own history) that Cover filters for agreeableness/vibes when it comes to their talents, and if you don't fit, you won't even make it past the first phase of auditions. Cover doesn't want 'cat fights' and it shows.
Alot of tranny Vtubers really don't hide it, though. It's VERY obvious.
Zentraya is probably the Ur example, though. It's weird.
It's a stupid line of thought tho
If male, bad because he's pretending to be a grill.
If woman but ugly, bad because she's tricking men with her beauty
If woman but pretty, bad because she's no different from other ethots