We kind of already know that Tim has been red-pilled, though. He's even come out and explicitly said he's voting for Trump. So it's not really shocking. What's more shocking to me is how many are purposely turning a blind eye to the complete insanity that's happening across the country. I've talked to several people who have said, "Yeah, I just kind of avoid the news and social media now – I don't wanna hear about that stuff." as if them turning away from it somehow makes it go away. Apathy seems to be the new normal for many who can't be bothered to care about things outside of their small existence.
Not to sound cliche, but reality is often dissapointing. I cannot blame people for apathy, for tuning out if it always seems like doom and gloom, but I cannot forgive ignorance. At the very least they should be aware of the surface level things happening.
Yeah, I can agree with that sentiment somewhat as well. But we've reached a point where apathy is dangerous, in my opinion. I mean we have all hell breaking loose in cities nationwide, as well as entire ecosystems being set to flame. Although, I'm hearing conflicting reports about the latter with regards to whether these massive forest fires are arson or simply random fires; it's definitely been an irregularly dry and hot summer for the west coast.
I'm not saying that people need to necessarily dedicate all of their attention to current events and what's happening politically, but when it's reached a point where we're seeing major media companies and big corporations advocating for the violence and anarchy taking place, then I feel apathy is only further adding to the overall harm.
I feel the point being made in a famous quote from WW2 is seeming to fit more and more with today:
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
– Martin Niemöller
At what point will people begin to recognize that this already involves them and the future of those they're leaving behind? I'm painfully aware of the disappointments in life, which is exactly why I speak up when I see things that concern me – because I don't want the young in my family to experience more than I had to.
One thing I've never understood about that quote ...
It's the socialists who are "coming" for everybody. Just different flavors (the international communist kind or the nationalist fascist kind). If the "socialists" who were disappeared were in power instead, they'd have started the exact same process against the opposing flavor of socialists.
To hell with all of them. I'll stick up for the trade unionists though.
Those people who just avoid news and social media are generally much happier people - they're also the people who refuse to educate themselves enough to know what's even going on. They've relegated it to "It's nastier politics, it happened in the past, it'll happen again, it's kinda bad now, I know that I can't say anything good about Trump or wear a red hat, OK, that's all I need to know, I'm going back to my life now."
It's part of how amazing America is. Really. It can be this polarized and still 50% of people won't vote. As long as they're not aware of how the bad shit is affecting their lives and can pretend it isn't, then it's all fine. And for them, they go work their job, continue on as if nothing major is happening - because it really isn't happening for them. America is such a place that this much bad shit can be happening and people can still get away with ignoring almost all of it completely. There's something so unique and amazing and bizarre about the American experiment that it's just enthralling.
I don't know why any of you give a damn about what Tim says or does. He's about 3 or 4 years behind most of us when it comes to basic observations about the left. His only purpose is to serve as a gateway for moderate leftists to eventually end up on your side. Outside of that, he bores me.
Because having that gateway is important. He can feel frustratingly far behind those of us living and breathing the bleeding edge of this stuff, but you have to win recruits long march through the institutions style, and good pace-and-lead efforts by people like this are important to keep tabs on and try to help steer.
I don't watch Tim for his opinions; I watch him because he at least tries to be honest about what's going on instead of giving his interpretation of it. I'd probably be willing to watch David Pakman if he'd actually report reality instead of his delusional warped interpretation of it.
It'd be one thing to say, "wow, these protests are pretty violent ... but I'm ok with that", and it's something entirely different to say, "these peaceful protests are 100% peaceful. There is no violence, the police shouldn't be there. But all the violence that isn't happening is definitely coming from white supremacists and federal secret police. But the protests are all still 100% peaceful and nonviolent, and I don't know why you're so concerned about all this supposed 'lawlessness'."
The first is at least honest, if idiotic. The latter is ... almost the entire establishment media.
Bill Maher will probably never embrace the Right. But this is OK since Maher has a long history of voting left while still being able to criticize it. He could be part of a return to normalcy eventually. (We can always hope at least)
You cannot vote blue in the current political paradigm and be red pilled. Maybe you can have some left leanings but you realize the absolute insanity taking place on the political left at the moment and refuse to enable that. But unless that's the case then I can't consider a leftist to be red pilled.
The correct answer to that isnt to debate whether its real communism or not, but to say that this is what happens when anyone ever tries to build communism.
Sometimes I think Bill Maher is already secretly redpilled, but he has an audience to maintain..
Or maybe red-pill isn't the right word here. Since he's never had much love for the PC/authoritarian far left, which is increasingly dominating his side. But TDS prevents him from jumping ship
He comes out about obvious fact known since 2017? His channel is 99% "here's why democrats are the antichrist". Does he have an opinion on roger stone's suggestion if trump loses?
We kind of already know that Tim has been red-pilled, though. He's even come out and explicitly said he's voting for Trump. So it's not really shocking. What's more shocking to me is how many are purposely turning a blind eye to the complete insanity that's happening across the country. I've talked to several people who have said, "Yeah, I just kind of avoid the news and social media now – I don't wanna hear about that stuff." as if them turning away from it somehow makes it go away. Apathy seems to be the new normal for many who can't be bothered to care about things outside of their small existence.
Not to sound cliche, but reality is often dissapointing. I cannot blame people for apathy, for tuning out if it always seems like doom and gloom, but I cannot forgive ignorance. At the very least they should be aware of the surface level things happening.
Yeah, I can agree with that sentiment somewhat as well. But we've reached a point where apathy is dangerous, in my opinion. I mean we have all hell breaking loose in cities nationwide, as well as entire ecosystems being set to flame. Although, I'm hearing conflicting reports about the latter with regards to whether these massive forest fires are arson or simply random fires; it's definitely been an irregularly dry and hot summer for the west coast.
I'm not saying that people need to necessarily dedicate all of their attention to current events and what's happening politically, but when it's reached a point where we're seeing major media companies and big corporations advocating for the violence and anarchy taking place, then I feel apathy is only further adding to the overall harm.
I feel the point being made in a famous quote from WW2 is seeming to fit more and more with today:
At what point will people begin to recognize that this already involves them and the future of those they're leaving behind? I'm painfully aware of the disappointments in life, which is exactly why I speak up when I see things that concern me – because I don't want the young in my family to experience more than I had to.
One thing I've never understood about that quote ...
It's the socialists who are "coming" for everybody. Just different flavors (the international communist kind or the nationalist fascist kind). If the "socialists" who were disappeared were in power instead, they'd have started the exact same process against the opposing flavor of socialists.
To hell with all of them. I'll stick up for the trade unionists though.
I have never had a socialist, trade unionist, or jew speak up for me in my entire life.
Yup.
Here's video of the unprovoked shooting:
https://twitter.com/LASDHQ/status/1304993095725932545
If reality was remotely aligned with CNN, those people would be ultra aware and screaming 'I told you so's.
Those people who just avoid news and social media are generally much happier people - they're also the people who refuse to educate themselves enough to know what's even going on. They've relegated it to "It's nastier politics, it happened in the past, it'll happen again, it's kinda bad now, I know that I can't say anything good about Trump or wear a red hat, OK, that's all I need to know, I'm going back to my life now."
It's part of how amazing America is. Really. It can be this polarized and still 50% of people won't vote. As long as they're not aware of how the bad shit is affecting their lives and can pretend it isn't, then it's all fine. And for them, they go work their job, continue on as if nothing major is happening - because it really isn't happening for them. America is such a place that this much bad shit can be happening and people can still get away with ignoring almost all of it completely. There's something so unique and amazing and bizarre about the American experiment that it's just enthralling.
I don't know why any of you give a damn about what Tim says or does. He's about 3 or 4 years behind most of us when it comes to basic observations about the left. His only purpose is to serve as a gateway for moderate leftists to eventually end up on your side. Outside of that, he bores me.
Because having that gateway is important. He can feel frustratingly far behind those of us living and breathing the bleeding edge of this stuff, but you have to win recruits long march through the institutions style, and good pace-and-lead efforts by people like this are important to keep tabs on and try to help steer.
I watch TimCast IRL for the spinning UFO.
I don't watch Tim for his opinions; I watch him because he at least tries to be honest about what's going on instead of giving his interpretation of it. I'd probably be willing to watch David Pakman if he'd actually report reality instead of his delusional warped interpretation of it.
It'd be one thing to say, "wow, these protests are pretty violent ... but I'm ok with that", and it's something entirely different to say, "these peaceful protests are 100% peaceful. There is no violence, the police shouldn't be there. But all the violence that isn't happening is definitely coming from white supremacists and federal secret police. But the protests are all still 100% peaceful and nonviolent, and I don't know why you're so concerned about all this supposed 'lawlessness'."
The first is at least honest, if idiotic. The latter is ... almost the entire establishment media.
Bill Maher will probably never embrace the Right. But this is OK since Maher has a long history of voting left while still being able to criticize it. He could be part of a return to normalcy eventually. (We can always hope at least)
So you can only be red pilled if you're on the Right?
You cannot vote blue in the current political paradigm and be red pilled. Maybe you can have some left leanings but you realize the absolute insanity taking place on the political left at the moment and refuse to enable that. But unless that's the case then I can't consider a leftist to be red pilled.
Maher is Jewish, he won’t ever be redpilled. Only a very small portion of them ever go that far, e.g. Bobby Fischer.
Magical how everyone knows the joke of "that's not real communism!" being used to justify its horrors.
Yet some will turn around and say "that's not real liberalism/Leftism/feminism/equality/etc" with zero note of the dissonance.
People have apparently been saying "that's not real liberalism" since the French revolution. Liberalism is the Motte to Leftism's Bailey.
The correct answer to that isnt to debate whether its real communism or not, but to say that this is what happens when anyone ever tries to build communism.
The same can be argued about Left/Liberalism
Sometimes I think Bill Maher is already secretly redpilled, but he has an audience to maintain..
Or maybe red-pill isn't the right word here. Since he's never had much love for the PC/authoritarian far left, which is increasingly dominating his side. But TDS prevents him from jumping ship
He comes out about obvious fact known since 2017? His channel is 99% "here's why democrats are the antichrist". Does he have an opinion on roger stone's suggestion if trump loses?