Who the fuck decided to put scientists in charge of morality?
Hey, John Money was a psychologist, so the dude should have been bound by medical ethics - the guy was a doctor, not a scientist. I'd be interested to see how the hell he got around that.
Oh, I wouldn't put it past them to "misplace" it, destroy it, or not even take them down in the first place.
They grew up in the 20s and 30s, if not earlier (Money, himself, was born in '21) so there's no way they couldn't have none what they were doing was wrong.
When I was younger I was confused about my gender. That's very normal for kids. When I grew up I grew out of it. Thank god my parents didn't ruin my life over it like the did for the kid in the original post. As of now I happily embrace masculinity and feel a sense of balance between the dominant masculine side and the feminine side of my personality.
"IT IS FULLY REVERSIBLE" I was told several times on reddit and in the youtube comment section and that I am anti-science for pointing out that delaying the natural evolution of your body in puberty, the largest and fastest change in your body, will have consequences on your body.
I was accused of being transphobic for saying that puberty helps children with gender-dysphoria to grow out of it 60-80% of the time.
They also typically ignore psychological things.
1, we all know hormones influence people's behaviour. My grandmother made some cake and I accidentally squashed the slice I had in my bag to take to work. I almost cried. Thanks, period. Normally I wouldn't be anything other than a bit annoyed, but now I felt overwhelming guilt.
So how do you think a child's feelings about gender would settle naturally if they are kept in a chemical eunuch state? How is a little boy supposed to actually become fine with masculinity if he is not allowed to experience it? Hormone blocking is just cementing them into this weird mental state forever.
2, How is this kid supposed to maintain normal and healthy interpersonal relationships with their own age group if they are kept as children? No matter what you believe, puberty is a huge event and a universal human experience.
I remember my cousin feeling horrible about herself for some time during puberty because she started developing a bit later than the rest of us did. I think it was like 6-8 months when everyone was growing boobs and starting our periods and not her and it already distressed her.
Imagine the same forever. Everyone else is getting taller, maturing, developing a sexuality, etc. and you are the same age, you used to be friends but now you can't relate to them at all.
As a "puberty hitting late enough to cause distress" guy, I can say that it takes a huge toll on both your mental anxiety and your interpersonal relationships, especially dating. I was fortunate mine still came through towards the tail end of high school and turned me into a properly oversized man. I can only imagine what toll it would take to not only never have it happen, but to reverse it in strange medical ways.
Normally I wouldn't be anything other than a bit annoyed, but now I felt overwhelming guilt.
Bitch I'm a man who almost never cries (I don't suppress it, it just doesn't happen), and if I did that, I would almost cry from guilt as well. Just reading that scenario made me feel second hand guilt and sadness. Lmao.
Awwwwh.
I have this endless bag that is a cruel mistress. Sometimes I can find treasures at the bottom, like a cereal bar when I really need it or some money.
But sometimes it demands a sacrifice.
Oh, I love those "fully reversible" comments. Everything else aside, if me taking artificial hormones at 13 would have been "fully reversible", why isn't just letting my natural hormones work not "fully reversible"?
You get the impression that children who have their lives destroyed by this treatment are regarded as failures who didn't fully commit to social justice - they were blessed with this hand lifting them out of sin privilege and now the ungrateful wretches have the temerity to go and commit suicide?
I'm sad because CP.win has become completely overwhelmed with "muh jews", basic bitch edgy racism/homophobia. Obviously I don't think those things should be censored, but they're a waste of time and destroy the quality of the sub.
I was actually curious when I saw that - not the kind of thing I recall seeing when I dropped by their subreddit. We got some in the move here too, but they typically get downvoted hard - I think people who have been aware of the culture war for a few years have a generally low tolerance for racialism (not to be confused with racism).
On one hand, I don't like things getting censored either, but on the other..well, most of the time criticism of jews in public is done in a shallow manner, and that does form a sort of low effort expectation - there's also a real legal threat if you allow certain ideas to be promoted, like how 9chan got shut down a few months ago because null didn't feel like struggling against federal harassment.
I feel for the guy. I'm generally not for suing ones parents, but in this case, what they did to him, they violated everything it means to be a parent. They actively caused him harm. I don't even know if that would even help. I would say though if lawsuits started going against parents and the quacks pushing this butchery on children took place, it would most likely stop. Parents would then push their new non-theistic religion beliefs on an adult, even if they brainwashed someone, at 18 its still their decision, its not at age 7.
The parents are somewhat between a rock and a hard place, because if they did nothing they potentially could have a court take the children from them on the testimony of a doctor who thought their inaction was causing the child harm. Short of fleeing to Poland and trying to claim asylum there, at that point there's not much the parents would be able to do to stop it.
I came out as transgender when I was just a little boy. I was already living "as female" by age 7.
Vegan cat.
You were coaxed into being transgender by a feminist mother who wanted a girl, so she decided to manipulate you into believing you were one, for her the sake of her vanity.
I was put on hormone blockers when I was very young, right as I started puberty
A doctor signed off on your abuse, willfully igorant of the horror show of Dr. Money's work.
...I wish more of these people were as concerned with holding the people who did this to them responsible as they were with their attempts to fix the unfixable.
Gender transitioning children is a deranged, sexual, emotional and physical form of child abuse.
It is mass medical experimentation on children. Who the fuck decided to put scientists in charge of morality?
Hey, John Money was a psychologist, so the dude should have been bound by medical ethics - the guy was a doctor, not a scientist. I'd be interested to see how the hell he got around that.
Don't mind me, just imagining the shit that would've gone on if John Money was a doctor in Rapture (from the Bioshock games).
The doc in the game was creepy enough but a doc like John Money? shudders
I'd just love to see the minutes of the board of medicine meeting where Money proposed "Incest role-play" as a treatment and it got okayed.
Oh, I wouldn't put it past them to "misplace" it, destroy it, or not even take them down in the first place.
They grew up in the 20s and 30s, if not earlier (Money, himself, was born in '21) so there's no way they couldn't have none what they were doing was wrong.
Whoever gave John Money his degree.
When I was younger I was confused about my gender. That's very normal for kids. When I grew up I grew out of it. Thank god my parents didn't ruin my life over it like the did for the kid in the original post. As of now I happily embrace masculinity and feel a sense of balance between the dominant masculine side and the feminine side of my personality.
"IT IS FULLY REVERSIBLE" I was told several times on reddit and in the youtube comment section and that I am anti-science for pointing out that delaying the natural evolution of your body in puberty, the largest and fastest change in your body, will have consequences on your body. I was accused of being transphobic for saying that puberty helps children with gender-dysphoria to grow out of it 60-80% of the time.
They also typically ignore psychological things.
1, we all know hormones influence people's behaviour. My grandmother made some cake and I accidentally squashed the slice I had in my bag to take to work. I almost cried. Thanks, period. Normally I wouldn't be anything other than a bit annoyed, but now I felt overwhelming guilt.
So how do you think a child's feelings about gender would settle naturally if they are kept in a chemical eunuch state? How is a little boy supposed to actually become fine with masculinity if he is not allowed to experience it? Hormone blocking is just cementing them into this weird mental state forever.
2, How is this kid supposed to maintain normal and healthy interpersonal relationships with their own age group if they are kept as children? No matter what you believe, puberty is a huge event and a universal human experience.
I remember my cousin feeling horrible about herself for some time during puberty because she started developing a bit later than the rest of us did. I think it was like 6-8 months when everyone was growing boobs and starting our periods and not her and it already distressed her.
Imagine the same forever. Everyone else is getting taller, maturing, developing a sexuality, etc. and you are the same age, you used to be friends but now you can't relate to them at all.
As a "puberty hitting late enough to cause distress" guy, I can say that it takes a huge toll on both your mental anxiety and your interpersonal relationships, especially dating. I was fortunate mine still came through towards the tail end of high school and turned me into a properly oversized man. I can only imagine what toll it would take to not only never have it happen, but to reverse it in strange medical ways.
Bitch I'm a man who almost never cries (I don't suppress it, it just doesn't happen), and if I did that, I would almost cry from guilt as well. Just reading that scenario made me feel second hand guilt and sadness. Lmao.
Awwwwh.
I have this endless bag that is a cruel mistress. Sometimes I can find treasures at the bottom, like a cereal bar when I really need it or some money.
But sometimes it demands a sacrifice.
Oh, I love those "fully reversible" comments. Everything else aside, if me taking artificial hormones at 13 would have been "fully reversible", why isn't just letting my natural hormones work not "fully reversible"?
You get the impression that children who have their lives destroyed by this treatment are regarded as failures who didn't fully commit to social justice - they were blessed with this hand lifting them out of
sinprivilege and now the ungrateful wretches have the temerity to go and commit suicide?Didn't know they got a .win, thanks, I'll check up on them later.
I'm sad because CP.win has become completely overwhelmed with "muh jews", basic bitch edgy racism/homophobia. Obviously I don't think those things should be censored, but they're a waste of time and destroy the quality of the sub.
I was actually curious when I saw that - not the kind of thing I recall seeing when I dropped by their subreddit. We got some in the move here too, but they typically get downvoted hard - I think people who have been aware of the culture war for a few years have a generally low tolerance for racialism (not to be confused with racism).
On one hand, I don't like things getting censored either, but on the other..well, most of the time criticism of jews in public is done in a shallow manner, and that does form a sort of low effort expectation - there's also a real legal threat if you allow certain ideas to be promoted, like how 9chan got shut down a few months ago because null didn't feel like struggling against federal harassment.
poor bastard. nobody will pay for what they've done to him.
Every single one like him will be ignored since they go against the narrative.
I feel for the guy. I'm generally not for suing ones parents, but in this case, what they did to him, they violated everything it means to be a parent. They actively caused him harm. I don't even know if that would even help. I would say though if lawsuits started going against parents and the quacks pushing this butchery on children took place, it would most likely stop. Parents would then push their new non-theistic religion beliefs on an adult, even if they brainwashed someone, at 18 its still their decision, its not at age 7.
The parents are somewhat between a rock and a hard place, because if they did nothing they potentially could have a court take the children from them on the testimony of a doctor who thought their inaction was causing the child harm. Short of fleeing to Poland and trying to claim asylum there, at that point there's not much the parents would be able to do to stop it.
The sad thing is I doubt there’s ever going to be an equivalent of the Nuremberg trials for these people.
We'll just have to organize our own.
Behold, the future fate of James Younger, either this or suicide.
How the hell has that subreddit not been banned or quarantined yet?
Because it had nothing to do with GC hellspawn and did a good job keeping them out.
I hope he is able to develop the strength of character required to overcome this obstacle.
Also I hope that sub gives him the hard truth about society, seeing the damage that coddling has already done.
Reparations from women's organizations to these people should happen.
Vegan cat.
You were coaxed into being transgender by a feminist mother who wanted a girl, so she decided to manipulate you into believing you were one, for her the sake of her vanity.
A doctor signed off on your abuse, willfully igorant of the horror show of Dr. Money's work.
...I wish more of these people were as concerned with holding the people who did this to them responsible as they were with their attempts to fix the unfixable.
Sucks to be him. I wonder if he'll sue.
Never go full Tigerman, no matter your personal issues with the body you wound up in. Never.
And what the fuck is up with the parents for encouraging/allowing this?! He should be fucking suing them, or putting them up on charges.
They are putting kids on the path to suicide.
A real shame too.
Both of his parents are over 6 foot and built like brick shithouses and have the finest balance of looks and attitude.
But hey, fuck this guy he's a straight white dude!
Changed and back by 18. Awesome. Time well spent for a fulfilling, memorable youth.
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