I guess this solves the debate over whether Chromium browsers can be trusted. For those unaware the "upgrade" from MV2 to MV3 massively reduced the capabilities of browser extensions, degrading some and completely destroying others. This was mainly done to neuter ad blockers because they got in the way of Google's business model which is degrading your user experience and security so they can steal your data.
Brave says they disagree with the change but they don't have the resources to maintain MV2. They are maintaining a select few MV2 extensions which means they're probably fine for a relatively normie friendly privacy setup. It's a deal breaker for me though. If Google can do this to Brave there's all kinds of other bad things they can do. I don't trust any Chromium based browser at this point, and in any case there's one MV2 extension I use that Brave doesn't support. I guess I'll change to Firefox and maybe try some forks. I'm open to suggestions. I was actually watching a video about the Ladybird browser last night. It looks promising but it's not end user ready yet. They're aiming to go live some time this year. That's something to keep an eye on.
At work I am forced to deal with browsing without one and I will quite literally run some sites through a service that just returns the raw text of the website in order to make it readable.
I'm no coder, but I'm thinking a "workaround" for an adblocker would be to resize the ads to a 1x1 pixel frame. That way the ad is technically being allowed, the browser is verifying that it's being displayed, but it's actually not practically visible.
Dont even need to do that. You can make the ad believe it loaded and never actually load it. Modern internet structure is really weird. If you are ever curious, press f12 and look at what is on a very average reddit page. Its crazy how much shit there is.
This is the first I've heard of Floorp, but Japanese and Firefox based are two green flags just from a simple search. I'll have to look into it some more.
You can but youtube literally slows down the page loads and sometimes you have to wait for a black screen to disappear for over 30 seconds and it will coyly ask "are you experiencing interruptions?" in a little box,and sometimes you have to refresh the page. It's a real hassle but still better than ads.
I have jumped around several browsers since Firefox fired Brendan Eich. At first I used PaleMoon, and I used that for years, but they eventually forked their code base too far from Firefox, and some of what I consider mandatory extensions no longer worked, so I replaced Pale Moon with Waterfox, and used that for a few years.
I was having major issues with YT and ads on WaterFox a few years ago, I think, and I tried Brave, and liked it enough to adopt it as my daily. With this, however, I may have to go back to WaterFox. We'll see.
I use LastPass and ABO, and consider them mandatory on any browser I use. I detest advertising, and don't want to see it, at all, anywhere, and I don't give a shit if Google depends on it for most of their revenue stream.
KeePass with a database synced to all needed devices via syncthing. No accounts, no subscriptions, no third party hosting the password file, and an open source client for practically every device.
Sounds like me, except I haven't had any major problems with Waterfox so I'm still here. There's probably better options at this point but waterfox hasn't done anything egregious as far as I can tell.
I wonder if Brave's built in ad blocker will still function as normal? I keep coming back to Brave as things just work, but if it start becoming an ad riddled mess I totally go back to Firefox or a clone.
I'd say they are going to run off customers, but the number of people I know who just use the default browser or Chrome is mind boggling. All the people who don't want ads will just leave.
I wonder if Brave's built in ad blocker will still function as normal?
It should, yeah. Brave maintains its own version of UBO and a few other MV2 extensions because the users want them, but they say the built in blocker is a perfectly viable replacement for those extensions. I've always used UBO on top of the built in blocker so I'm not in a position evaluate that claim, but I've been less than impressed at how the two interact. Breakages are hard to diagnose and simply disabling the built in blocker doesn't really help. It also just feels less clean and smooth than letting UBO do all the work. Maybe this will be a blessing in disguise for me. I know UBO's developer said the extension works best with Firefox anyway.
At the very least I haven't run any extra blockers on Brave like I do on other browsers, and that plus DNS level ad blocking, I pretty much never see advertisements. So theirs is at least effective.
I guess this solves the debate over whether Chromium browsers can be trusted. For those unaware the "upgrade" from MV2 to MV3 massively reduced the capabilities of browser extensions, degrading some and completely destroying others. This was mainly done to neuter ad blockers because they got in the way of Google's business model which is degrading your user experience and security so they can steal your data.
Brave says they disagree with the change but they don't have the resources to maintain MV2. They are maintaining a select few MV2 extensions which means they're probably fine for a relatively normie friendly privacy setup. It's a deal breaker for me though. If Google can do this to Brave there's all kinds of other bad things they can do. I don't trust any Chromium based browser at this point, and in any case there's one MV2 extension I use that Brave doesn't support. I guess I'll change to Firefox and maybe try some forks. I'm open to suggestions. I was actually watching a video about the Ladybird browser last night. It looks promising but it's not end user ready yet. They're aiming to go live some time this year. That's something to keep an eye on.
I think Ill give up on the internet before I go back to ads.
The internet is unusable without an adblocker.
At work I am forced to deal with browsing without one and I will quite literally run some sites through a service that just returns the raw text of the website in order to make it readable.
A service? Most browsers like Chrome, Firefox, and Safari offer a native text-only Reader Mode.
Do they? I've never laid eyes on that feature.
I'm no coder, but I'm thinking a "workaround" for an adblocker would be to resize the ads to a 1x1 pixel frame. That way the ad is technically being allowed, the browser is verifying that it's being displayed, but it's actually not practically visible.
Dont even need to do that. You can make the ad believe it loaded and never actually load it. Modern internet structure is really weird. If you are ever curious, press f12 and look at what is on a very average reddit page. Its crazy how much shit there is.
Well guess Iām on the hunt for a new browser too. I have a friend that mentioned switching to Floorp, I may look at that one myself.
This is the first I've heard of Floorp, but Japanese and Firefox based are two green flags just from a simple search. I'll have to look into it some more.
Being able to say "the Japanese software might be a better choice" and it's not a joke is a sign of just how bad things have become.
As I mentioned above.
Libre Wolf is nice. It is basically Firefox with a few changes.
Firefox trackers removed ( yes, there are trackers in Firefox)
UBlock Origin installed by default.
Pocket, sponsored shortcuts, and Firefox Sync are disabled or removed.
Browser hardening like ArkenFox by default but they do intentionally differ on some areas.
It is the closest thing to a ready to use browser you can find.
Ad blockers work fine for me with MV3.
Can we just use firefox for ultra scammy ad sites like youtube?
You can but youtube literally slows down the page loads and sometimes you have to wait for a black screen to disappear for over 30 seconds and it will coyly ask "are you experiencing interruptions?" in a little box,and sometimes you have to refresh the page. It's a real hassle but still better than ads.
Sounds like anticompetitive behavior from the google monopoly. Hopefully congress takes a look
Oh, they'll totally look into that, right after they cash the check from Alphabet, Inc.
They'll look into it the same day they look into the Epstein Files, so never
Luckily congress will pass a 100% unanimous TikTok seizure bill so antiseptic comments like this are banned.
Congress is on the payroll.
Always has been. šš§āšš«š§āš
Libre Wolf is nice. It is basically Firefox with a few changes.
Firefox trackers removed ( yes, there are trackers in Firefox)
UBlock Origin installed by default.
Pocket, sponsored shortcuts, and Firefox Sync are disabled or removed.
Browser hardening like ArkenFox by default but they do intentionally differ on some areas.
It is the closest thing to a ready to use browser you can find.
I have jumped around several browsers since Firefox fired Brendan Eich. At first I used PaleMoon, and I used that for years, but they eventually forked their code base too far from Firefox, and some of what I consider mandatory extensions no longer worked, so I replaced Pale Moon with Waterfox, and used that for a few years.
I was having major issues with YT and ads on WaterFox a few years ago, I think, and I tried Brave, and liked it enough to adopt it as my daily. With this, however, I may have to go back to WaterFox. We'll see.
I use LastPass and ABO, and consider them mandatory on any browser I use. I detest advertising, and don't want to see it, at all, anywhere, and I don't give a shit if Google depends on it for most of their revenue stream.
I no longer trust LastPass after the security breach. Since then, I've moved to BitWarden.
KeePass with a database synced to all needed devices via syncthing. No accounts, no subscriptions, no third party hosting the password file, and an open source client for practically every device.
Sounds like me, except I haven't had any major problems with Waterfox so I'm still here. There's probably better options at this point but waterfox hasn't done anything egregious as far as I can tell.
As I mentioned to others.
Libre Wolf is nice. It is basically Firefox with a few changes.
Firefox trackers removed ( yes, there are trackers in Firefox)
UBlock Origin installed by default.
Pocket, sponsored shortcuts, and Firefox Sync are disabled or removed.
Browser hardening like ArkenFox by default but they do intentionally differ on some areas.
It is the closest thing to a ready to use browser you can find.
Libre Wolf I have heard of. I will look into it.
I wonder if Brave's built in ad blocker will still function as normal? I keep coming back to Brave as things just work, but if it start becoming an ad riddled mess I totally go back to Firefox or a clone.
I'd say they are going to run off customers, but the number of people I know who just use the default browser or Chrome is mind boggling. All the people who don't want ads will just leave.
It should, yeah. Brave maintains its own version of UBO and a few other MV2 extensions because the users want them, but they say the built in blocker is a perfectly viable replacement for those extensions. I've always used UBO on top of the built in blocker so I'm not in a position evaluate that claim, but I've been less than impressed at how the two interact. Breakages are hard to diagnose and simply disabling the built in blocker doesn't really help. It also just feels less clean and smooth than letting UBO do all the work. Maybe this will be a blessing in disguise for me. I know UBO's developer said the extension works best with Firefox anyway.
At the very least I haven't run any extra blockers on Brave like I do on other browsers, and that plus DNS level ad blocking, I pretty much never see advertisements. So theirs is at least effective.
I still haven't seen a single ad on Youtube and the worst I got was waiting 3 or 4 seconds for the video to start.
Mullvad browser is probably the best at the moment.
Is this why 4chanX uninstaled itself?
Haven't had an issue with brave while using unlock yet
they can try